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Progression. Build up. Not taking someone who's never gone running before on a full speed run when you're an Olympic runner and telling them to keep up. How a child learns to crawl, walk, then run.

Leading people doesn't mean immediately jumping to the conclusion.

Yet he still asks them to not think impure thoughts, which is impossible.  Right.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
*makes dudes write old testament*

oops sorry guys never mind i lied jesus says its k

*old testament doesn't matter anymore*

*people still follow the parts they want and use the rest as a reason to hate on other people they don't like*
The old testament still matters, it shows history of where the belief came from and gives many examples of people who went wrong and those that went right. It professes and shows how God loved his people from the beginning, despite all the hardships that went on and the amount of times they turned their backs on him.

People have always picked and chose, the Bible shows this and Jesus outright says that it's wrong many times. People suck, dude.

If he always loved people, why did he kill so many innocents in the Old Testament?
Some loving god.
Kills innocent people, where? I can just as well say that I'm Iron Man, bitch. But that doesn't really prove anything.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Progression. Build up. Not taking someone who's never gone running before on a full speed run when you're an Olympic runner and telling them to keep up. How a child learns to crawl, walk, then run.

Leading people doesn't mean immediately jumping to the conclusion.

Yet he still asks them to not think impure thoughts, which is impossible.  Right.
The Commandments are given with the explicit point that they are impossible for any man to uphold without the help of God.


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Ugh, religion, religion. Tools for the powerful to control the weak. The precursor to science, also. An explanation for the unexplainable. Except, when science started explaining, religion forgot to go away.

Everyone is too busy arguing to realize that religion is just the superstitious man's science. By controlling information is how the Catholic Church wielded so much power and completely owned Europe for so long. It's how Islamic extremists justify and garner support for Jihad. It's how the Chinese emperor's justified their reign. How the Jews validate their invasion of another people's land.

More people have lived and died for religion than we could ever realistically count. But so few have died in the actual search for truth.

Can we please put religion's to bed? How about we focus on educating ourselves that way we aren't tools for a power to use. Science is the new religion, and I believe in it because it fucking works, bitches.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Well, Sodom, Gomorrah
>People in the cities are essentially as much of a scumbag as you can imagine, try to rape strangers that come to town.
>"Innocent"
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flooding the planet
>"The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time."-Genesis 6:5
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Killing all the first born children of Egypt.
-God: "Release the Israelites from slavery."
-Pharaoh: "lol no"
-God does series of terrible things to make the jerk let his people out of slavery
-Somehow God is bad in this.
-k


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Progression. Build up. Not taking someone who's never gone running before on a full speed run when you're an Olympic runner and telling them to keep up. How a child learns to crawl, walk, then run.

Leading people doesn't mean immediately jumping to the conclusion.

Yet he still asks them to not think impure thoughts, which is impossible.  Right.
The Commandments are given with the explicit point that they are impossible for any man to uphold without the help of God.

Jealously and envy are instilled in all people and aren't even immoral, and on occasion can even be good leading people to improve themselves to be like the person they're jealous of.  No christian except jesus himself has lived without sin.  Since no one has followed every commandment perfectly there was no reason to exclude the addition of emancipation of slaves and protecting children.


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My stupidity is self evident.
Well, Sodom, Gomorrah
>People in the cities are essentially as much of a scumbag as you can imagine, try to rape strangers that come to town.
>"Innocent"
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flooding the planet
>"The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time."-Genesis 6:5
-"Innocent"
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Killing all the first born children of Egypt.
-God: "Release the Israelites from slavery."
-Pharaoh: "lol no"
-God does series of terrible things to make the jerk let his people out of slavery
-Somehow God is bad in this.
-k
There were no children in either of these towns?

Children deserved to be drowned because they were wicked.

It justified killing innocent plebs that had nothing to do w/ the slavery themselves? K.

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Well, Sodom, Gomorrah
>People in the cities are essentially as much of a scumbag as you can imagine, try to rape strangers that come to town.
>"Innocent"
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flooding the planet
>"The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time."-Genesis 6:5

Humans have been wicked since our existence.  The crusades, wars since forever, millions of women are raped in 3rd world countries every year, the list goes on.

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-"Innocent"
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Killing all the first born children of Egypt.
-God: "Release the Israelites from slavery."
-Pharaoh: "lol no"
-God does series of terrible things to make the jerk let his people out of slavery
-Somehow God is bad in this.
-k

I think it's absolutely disgusting you find nothing wrong with innocent infants because they had a skeptical leader.  They had no choice or say in where they were born.  It'd be no different than killing all kids in america because of a choice obama made. 

I'm gonna follow Sexy's advice and remove myself from this spectacle now.
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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.
Fun fact, the Lord did not command it himself. The dude said if God helped him triumph over the Ammonites in battle he would sacrifice whatever came out of the door of his house when he arrived(immediately we should realize this guy is a bit of a dumbass). He won battles, came home, his daughter came out the door, "oh shit, I fucked up", daughter goes out into hills with friends for 2 months, is sacrificed. This is literally a myth, it explains how the tradition of young women going out to the wilds for 4 days once a year came to be. Please note how God didn't say anything to this guy, he said he'd do this if this thing happened, then it did, and he paid the price of his daughter for being dumb.

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Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance “0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.  Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”
Dealt with this one before, I assume you got it from the same website; basically when Jerusalem was conquered b/c they were unfaithful to God all the women and children were slaughtered by the invaders, here they want vengeance against those that did this.
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Exodus 12:29 God killed, intentionally, every first-born child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh.  And god caused the Pharaoh’s actions in the first place.  Since when is it appropriate to murder children for their ruler’s forced action?
The Pharaoh was not a good man, he was cruel and unyielding, denying all requests by Moses and ignoring every warning. Yeah, I don't see that in my Bible. Did you miss that the Pharaoh did not allow the Israelite slaves any freedom and did not approve of breaks? Did you miss how the Pharaoh was warned constantly that plagues would happen to him and his people if he did not follow God's requests? Because I didn't. Add in that the Egyptians brought it on themselves in just about every way possible, including that the first-born was given the first helping of food in their culture, so the diseased food on top of their stored food would go to the first-born first, and really they had it coming.

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Exodus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents Joshua 8 God commanded the deaths of 12,000 men, women, and children of Ai.  They were all slain in the ambush that was planned by god.
That passage talks about keeping the Sabbath holy and resting on that day. I don't know what you're reading.

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Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.
Please just never use this source again for the rest of your life. This comes from a prophecy of what would happen to Babylon that Isaiah saw, and it does not say God will do any of this to you.

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Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.
"Therefore this is what the Lord says about the people of Anathoth who are threatening to kill you." FFS, I don't think I'm going to look all these up, because whoever wrote these things up forgot to look 1 line up.

If people could read context, then this would be 1000x easier. I wrote the preceding sentence before I even started this, and my goodness is it true. As much fun as picking each of these apart and thoroughly showing how terrible your source is at context, I do need to sleep sometime soon.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
That's a pretty broad generalization to make for let alone one city
I'm sorry, are you the all-knowing God that knows who is good and bad? Oh, right, you're not.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
To draw a parallel, Ra's Al Ghul wanted Gotham gone because of how corrupt it was disregarding the good people within it. So, you're saying that the death of innocents don't count because they're casualties?
The good people were personally told by God's angels to leave the city. You're making casualties up where there are none.

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Again, innocents don't count just because they're casualties? I seriously doubt Noah was the only good person living at the time.
Sorry that things were so shit only 1 guy and his family were considered good. It says there aren't casualties of innocents, so unless you want to find a better point than, "but there could have been innocents" this isn't going anywhere.


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So, the sins of the father are the sins of the son? That is equal to me finding a murderer and killing his kid in front of him to get him to stop killing.
>Multiple warnings of plague and famine.
>Pharaoh doesn't give a shit.
>plague strikes, since Egyptians customarily give the first helping of food to the first-born, guess who gets the rank food on top?


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
"your source sucks so I'm gonna ignore this shit you don't know any context"
Except I do, because I was subjected to this crap for like 5 years.
Well, clearly whoever subjected you to it did a shit job of explaining things.

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"it's okay for god to kill everyone because he knows they're all evil, even the babies and young children"
mhm.
Except I don't say that.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Humans have been wicked since our existence.  The crusades, wars since forever, millions of women are raped in 3rd world countries every year, the list goes on.
Yes, and God got tired of their shit and did stuff about it to make a message to stop. Obviously, not everyone got the message, but some did.

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I think it's absolutely disgusting you find nothing wrong with innocent infants because they had a skeptical leader.  They had no choice or say in where they were born.  It'd be no different than killing all kids in america because of a choice obama made. 

I'm gonna follow Sexy's advice and remove myself from this spectacle now.
>Infants
>First-born
Typically not the case, but might've happened. Not just skeptical, but borderline sadistic really. Again, I answered this about 3 times now I explaining it further, but you seemed to have wanted to jump on the gang bang here.

Feel free.


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I honestly can't believe this thread is still going. Looks like I pinched a nerve :)


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I honestly can't believe this thread is still going. Looks like I pinched a nerve :)
I r guy that teech lesson.

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Yeah, I pissed people off somehow. >.>
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I honestly can't believe this thread is still going. Looks like I pinched a nerve :)
I r guy that teech lesson.

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Yeah, I pissed people off somehow. >.>
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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Is that why he made me an atheist
Yes, so you could live your life on the edge and do what you want.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Is that why he made me an atheist
Yes, so you could live your life on the edge and do what you want.
But I didn't want to be one

I mean I'm mostly comfortable with it now but it's not something I would have chosen.

There is no feeling as devastating and mind-warpingly awful as realizing there is no god.

Seriously, as someone who grew up devout, was devout until that time, I was crushed. I cried every day for a week. The implications were driving me insane.

I did not choose it. You don't choose to believe, or to disbelieve.

If there is a god, there is nothing he could have done to hurt me more.
So, you acknowledge the possibility of a god, you want to believe in god, but you say you realize there is no god. I'm confused. How do you not get to choose?


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Me: God, can I ask You a question?

God: Sure

Me: Promise You won’t get mad

God: I promise

Me: Why did You let so much stuff happen to me today?

God: What do u mean?

Me: Well, I woke up late

God: Yes

Me: My car took forever to start

God: Okay

Me: at lunch they made my sandwich wrong & I had to wait

God: Huummm

Me: On the way home, my phone went DEAD, just as I picked up a call

God: All right

Me: And on top of it all off, when I got home ~I just want to soak my feet in my new foot massager & relax. BUT it wouldn’t work!!! Nothing went right today! Why did You do that?

God: Let me see, the death angel was at your bed this morning & I had to send one of My Angels to battle him for your life. I let you sleep through that

Me (humbled): OH

GOD: I didn’t let your car start because there was a drunk driver on your route that would have hit you if you were on the road.

Me: (ashamed) God: The first person who made your sandwich
today was sick & I didn’t want you to catch what they have, I knew you couldn’t afford to miss work.

Me (embarrassed): okay

God: Your phone went dead bcuz the person that was calling was going to give false witness about what you said on that call, I didn’t even let you talk to them so you would be covered.

Me (softly): I see God

God: Oh and that foot massager, it had a shortage that was going to throw out all of the power in your house tonight. I didn’t think you wanted to be in the dark.

Me: I’m Sorry God

God: Don’t be sorry, just learn to Trust Me…. in All things , the Good & the bad.

Me: I will trust You.

God: And don’t doubt that My plan for your day is Always Better than your plan.

Me: I won’t God. And let me just tell you God, Thank You for Everything today.

God: You’re welcome child. It was just another day being your God and I Love looking after My Children.


Basically, God is a fucking asshole and would ruin your day just to "look after you" or some doohickey.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
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Me: God, can I ask You a question?

God: Sure

Me: Promise You won’t get mad

God: I promise

Me: Why did You let so much stuff happen to me today?

God: What do u mean?

Me: Well, I woke up late

God: Yes

Me: My car took forever to start

God: Okay

Me: at lunch they made my sandwich wrong & I had to wait

God: Huummm

Me: On the way home, my phone went DEAD, just as I picked up a call

God: All right

Me: And on top of it all off, when I got home ~I just want to soak my feet in my new foot massager & relax. BUT it wouldn’t work!!! Nothing went right today! Why did You do that?

God: Let me see, the death angel was at your bed this morning & I had to send one of My Angels to battle him for your life. I let you sleep through that

Me (humbled): OH

GOD: I didn’t let your car start because there was a drunk driver on your route that would have hit you if you were on the road.

Me: (ashamed) God: The first person who made your sandwich
today was sick & I didn’t want you to catch what they have, I knew you couldn’t afford to miss work.

Me (embarrassed): okay

God: Your phone went dead bcuz the person that was calling was going to give false witness about what you said on that call, I didn’t even let you talk to them so you would be covered.

Me (softly): I see God

God: Oh and that foot massager, it had a shortage that was going to throw out all of the power in your house tonight. I didn’t think you wanted to be in the dark.

Me: I’m Sorry God

God: Don’t be sorry, just learn to Trust Me…. in All things , the Good & the bad.

Me: I will trust You.

God: And don’t doubt that My plan for your day is Always Better than your plan.

Me: I won’t God. And let me just tell you God, Thank You for Everything today.

God: You’re welcome child. It was just another day being your God and I Love looking after My Children.


Basically, God is a fucking asshole and would ruin your day just to "look after you" or some doohickey.
What a jerk, right? Keeping me alive and shit.