Quote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:32:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2015, 02:42:00 PMBecause it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.Competition is the reason we're the dominant species on the planet and the reason you're sitting in a warm home on a computer bitching about everything all day.Just like how a 600+ pound fat man in a scooter is the height of competitive evolution, right?Nope. QuoteI think Verb's talking about over-competitive.No such thing. Either you win or you don't. QuoteYou ever play chess? That's a form of competition with your buddy or your partner. It's fun to see who can outplay who especially if you're good matches. And then whoever wins, wins, and that's that. A thank you for shared fun and the challenge.That would be playing for fun. A chess tournament would be competitive. QuoteBut sports. You get riots and shit. "Fan loyalty."Stupid people rioting have nothing to do with athletes and competition. QuoteThere's natural competition and then there's stupid competition.There's just competition.
Quote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:32:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2015, 02:42:00 PMBecause it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.Competition is the reason we're the dominant species on the planet and the reason you're sitting in a warm home on a computer bitching about everything all day.Just like how a 600+ pound fat man in a scooter is the height of competitive evolution, right?
Quote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2015, 02:42:00 PMBecause it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.Competition is the reason we're the dominant species on the planet and the reason you're sitting in a warm home on a computer bitching about everything all day.
Because it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.
I think Verb's talking about over-competitive.
You ever play chess? That's a form of competition with your buddy or your partner. It's fun to see who can outplay who especially if you're good matches. And then whoever wins, wins, and that's that. A thank you for shared fun and the challenge.
But sports. You get riots and shit. "Fan loyalty."
There's natural competition and then there's stupid competition.
Quote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:32:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2015, 02:42:00 PMBecause it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.Competition is the reason we're the dominant species on the planet and the reason you're sitting in a warm home on a computer bitching about everything all day.Just like how a 600+ pound fat man in a scooter is the height of competitive evolution, right?Nope. QuoteI think Verb's talking about over-competitive.No such thing. Either you win or you don't. QuoteYou ever play chess? That's a form of competition with your buddy or your partner. It's fun to see who can outplay who especially if you're good matches. And then whoever wins, wins, and that's that. A thank you for shared fun and the challenge.That would be playing for fun. A chess tournament would be competitive. QuoteBut sports. You get riots and shit. "Fan loyalty."Stupid people rioting have nothing to do with athletes and competition. QuoteThere's natural competition and then there's stupid competition.There's just competition.Then please, enlighten me about hockey fights. Never mind the riots. Let's focus on the players. Getting so pissed off at each other that they deck each other upside the head with hockey sticks.Coaches actually essentially put "hits" out on rival players. It's been done in football as well. Injure or cripple the other player and they get a pay raise on their check.And playing for fun. Really? The goal in chess is to win. So fucking naturally, you're going to play to win. That's the very fucking definition of competitive even if it's for fun.Again. There's normal competition where everybody does their best to win and they have fun with it. And then there's whatever the fuck sports these days have turned into having players taking steroids and shit just to "win."That's unhealthy competition.
Quote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:54:09 PMStupid people rioting have nothing to do with athletes and competition. Except if we didn't care as much as we do about stupid fucking sports, there would be less rioting.
Stupid people rioting have nothing to do with athletes and competition.
Also while I'm thinking about it.Wouldn't it be sick if we still had gladiator matches? I'd go watch that everyday.
Quote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 06:01:12 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:32:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2015, 02:42:00 PMBecause it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.Competition is the reason we're the dominant species on the planet and the reason you're sitting in a warm home on a computer bitching about everything all day.Just like how a 600+ pound fat man in a scooter is the height of competitive evolution, right?Nope. QuoteI think Verb's talking about over-competitive.No such thing. Either you win or you don't. QuoteYou ever play chess? That's a form of competition with your buddy or your partner. It's fun to see who can outplay who especially if you're good matches. And then whoever wins, wins, and that's that. A thank you for shared fun and the challenge.That would be playing for fun. A chess tournament would be competitive. QuoteBut sports. You get riots and shit. "Fan loyalty."Stupid people rioting have nothing to do with athletes and competition. QuoteThere's natural competition and then there's stupid competition.There's just competition.Then please, enlighten me about hockey fights. Never mind the riots. Let's focus on the players. Getting so pissed off at each other that they deck each other upside the head with hockey sticks.Coaches actually essentially put "hits" out on rival players. It's been done in football as well. Injure or cripple the other player and they get a pay raise on their check.And playing for fun. Really? The goal in chess is to win. So fucking naturally, you're going to play to win. That's the very fucking definition of competitive even if it's for fun.Again. There's normal competition where everybody does their best to win and they have fun with it. And then there's whatever the fuck sports these days have turned into having players taking steroids and shit just to "win."That's unhealthy competition.Hockey fights are for a reason. You obviously don't know much about the sport.Steroids had nothing to do with competition and everything to do with getting paid big bucks.
Quote from: PSU on February 27, 2015, 06:29:17 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 06:01:12 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:32:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2015, 02:42:00 PMBecause it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.Competition is the reason we're the dominant species on the planet and the reason you're sitting in a warm home on a computer bitching about everything all day.Just like how a 600+ pound fat man in a scooter is the height of competitive evolution, right?Nope. QuoteI think Verb's talking about over-competitive.No such thing. Either you win or you don't. QuoteYou ever play chess? That's a form of competition with your buddy or your partner. It's fun to see who can outplay who especially if you're good matches. And then whoever wins, wins, and that's that. A thank you for shared fun and the challenge.That would be playing for fun. A chess tournament would be competitive. QuoteBut sports. You get riots and shit. "Fan loyalty."Stupid people rioting have nothing to do with athletes and competition. QuoteThere's natural competition and then there's stupid competition.There's just competition.Then please, enlighten me about hockey fights. Never mind the riots. Let's focus on the players. Getting so pissed off at each other that they deck each other upside the head with hockey sticks.Coaches actually essentially put "hits" out on rival players. It's been done in football as well. Injure or cripple the other player and they get a pay raise on their check.And playing for fun. Really? The goal in chess is to win. So fucking naturally, you're going to play to win. That's the very fucking definition of competitive even if it's for fun.Again. There's normal competition where everybody does their best to win and they have fun with it. And then there's whatever the fuck sports these days have turned into having players taking steroids and shit just to "win."That's unhealthy competition.Hockey fights are for a reason. You obviously don't know much about the sport.Steroids had nothing to do with competition and everything to do with getting paid big bucks.YouTubeYep. Okay. Beating the shit out of each other is part of the game on ice. Having actual deaths on the ice is about the sport. Look at the sense it makes. Yes there's contact.No, beating the shit out of each other on the ice is not part of the sport, because if it was, THEN WHY BOTHER WEARING PADDING AT THAT POINT.And steroids? Well fuck, if it's all about the money then the competition obviosuly just fucked itself down the drain didn't it?I honestly can't wrap my head around this shit. It doesn't make sense. There's competition. It's a natural thing. You compete, do your best, and then whatever the outcome, that's that. Sports these days endorse the wrong kind of competition, and if you want proof of that, look at the riots. Look at the drug abuse. Look at deaths on the field and unnecessary violence.That's called stupid competion. It's unhealthy. Anything that results in that much pain, that much injury, and overall that much hassle, is stupid competition.You can have competition without being a gladiator. Which is honestly what most sports these days seem like with half the players on the field out to beat the shit out of each other or maim one another.May as well just drop the act and say fuck it.We're still too stupid to have any semblance of normal, functioning people. Fuck it. To the death gladiator arenas. Stop beating around the bush and saying it's a mans sport and it's competitive when true competition is, as challenger puts it, win at any cost.How about survive at any cost.Tell ya what PSU.Do something revolutionary. Clean up all these shitty sports and do something manly instead. Make a push for gladitorial arenas.
That humans are stupid creatures? We all agree on this.
Any system where it's your job to build yourself, build yourself, build yourself for months and months and months, training hard, straining yourself, risking serious injury, only to play in a competition where hundreds of players enter, and lose, WASTING all that heart and effort, is a broken system. For every winner, there are a hundred losers. And each one of those losers went through a fuck of a lot to win, and they lost. If you think think that's something that should continue, you're just a fucking moron. You're just too fucking stupid for words.
YouTubeYep. Okay. Beating the shit out of each other is part of the game on ice. Having actual deaths on the ice is about the sport. Look at the sense it makes. Yes there's contact.But no, beating the shit out of each other on the ice is not part of the sport, because if it was, THEN WHY BOTHER WEARING PADDING AT THAT POINT.And steroids? Well fuck, if it's all about the money then the competition obviosuly just fucked itself down the drain didn't it?I honestly can't wrap my head around this shit. It doesn't make sense. There's competition. It's a natural thing. You compete, do your best, and then whatever the outcome, that's that. Sports these days endorse the wrong kind of competition, and if you want proof of that, look at the riots. Look at the drug abuse. Look at deaths on the field and unnecessary violence.That's called stupid competion. It's unhealthy. Anything that results in that much pain, that much injury, and overall that much hassle, is stupid competition.You can have competition without being a gladiator. Which is honestly what most sports these days seem like with half the players on the field out to beat the shit out of each other or maim one another.May as well just drop the act and say fuck it.We're still too stupid to have any semblance of normal, functioning people. Fuck it. To the death gladiator arenas. Stop beating around the bush and saying it's a mans sport and it's competitive when true competition is, as challenger puts it, win at any cost.How about survive at any cost.Tell ya what PSU.Do something revolutionary. Clean up all these shitty sports and do something manly instead. Make a push for to the death gladitorial arenas.
Quote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 06:49:30 PMQuote from: PSU on February 27, 2015, 06:29:17 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 06:01:12 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:32:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2015, 02:42:00 PMBecause it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.Competition is the reason we're the dominant species on the planet and the reason you're sitting in a warm home on a computer bitching about everything all day.Just like how a 600+ pound fat man in a scooter is the height of competitive evolution, right?Nope. QuoteI think Verb's talking about over-competitive.No such thing. Either you win or you don't. QuoteYou ever play chess? That's a form of competition with your buddy or your partner. It's fun to see who can outplay who especially if you're good matches. And then whoever wins, wins, and that's that. A thank you for shared fun and the challenge.That would be playing for fun. A chess tournament would be competitive. QuoteBut sports. You get riots and shit. "Fan loyalty."Stupid people rioting have nothing to do with athletes and competition. QuoteThere's natural competition and then there's stupid competition.There's just competition.Then please, enlighten me about hockey fights. Never mind the riots. Let's focus on the players. Getting so pissed off at each other that they deck each other upside the head with hockey sticks.Coaches actually essentially put "hits" out on rival players. It's been done in football as well. Injure or cripple the other player and they get a pay raise on their check.And playing for fun. Really? The goal in chess is to win. So fucking naturally, you're going to play to win. That's the very fucking definition of competitive even if it's for fun.Again. There's normal competition where everybody does their best to win and they have fun with it. And then there's whatever the fuck sports these days have turned into having players taking steroids and shit just to "win."That's unhealthy competition.Hockey fights are for a reason. You obviously don't know much about the sport.Steroids had nothing to do with competition and everything to do with getting paid big bucks.YouTubeYep. Okay. Beating the shit out of each other is part of the game on ice. Having actual deaths on the ice is about the sport. Look at the sense it makes. Yes there's contact.No, beating the shit out of each other on the ice is not part of the sport, because if it was, THEN WHY BOTHER WEARING PADDING AT THAT POINT.And steroids? Well fuck, if it's all about the money then the competition obviosuly just fucked itself down the drain didn't it?I honestly can't wrap my head around this shit. It doesn't make sense. There's competition. It's a natural thing. You compete, do your best, and then whatever the outcome, that's that. Sports these days endorse the wrong kind of competition, and if you want proof of that, look at the riots. Look at the drug abuse. Look at deaths on the field and unnecessary violence.That's called stupid competion. It's unhealthy. Anything that results in that much pain, that much injury, and overall that much hassle, is stupid competition.You can have competition without being a gladiator. Which is honestly what most sports these days seem like with half the players on the field out to beat the shit out of each other or maim one another.May as well just drop the act and say fuck it.We're still too stupid to have any semblance of normal, functioning people. Fuck it. To the death gladiator arenas. Stop beating around the bush and saying it's a mans sport and it's competitive when true competition is, as challenger puts it, win at any cost.How about survive at any cost.Tell ya what PSU.Do something revolutionary. Clean up all these shitty sports and do something manly instead. Make a push for gladitorial arenas.Sandtrap I have no idea what you mean. But I completely disagree with you.
How about building youself for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS and then at the end there are 1000's of losers.Its called the education system and job market. Its not broken. And the only people who think that its broken, are the people who didn't work hard enough. The losers.
Quote from: PSU on February 27, 2015, 07:04:57 PMHow about building youself for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS and then at the end there are 1000's of losers.Its called the education system and job market. Its not broken. And the only people who think that its broken, are the people who didn't work hard enough. The losers.My whole point is that there should be no winners OR losers. The entire concept of having a "winner" and a "loser" is fucktarded, unless there is no real cost involved. And with sports, the costs involved are absolutely extortionate in practically every single facet. Human suffering and cash money. Sports accomplish nothing in return. What did we gain when the Patriots won the Superbowl? The cure for cancer? The panacea for all life's troubles? No. It accomplished jackshit.
We play games for our entertainment, watch games for entertainment. And clearly, all the bullshit that comes with modern day sports is what people OK nowadays. Well, put simply, fuck people. They want to beat the shit out of each other over a puck and a net? Well, may as well let them. Modern natural selection at work.
Quote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 06:01:12 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:54:09 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on February 27, 2015, 05:51:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on February 27, 2015, 05:32:09 PMQuote from: Verbatim on February 27, 2015, 02:42:00 PMBecause it is a pointless waste of time, money, and effort and only serves to breed a competitive mindset in youth. Competition is bad.Competition is the reason we're the dominant species on the planet and the reason you're sitting in a warm home on a computer bitching about everything all day.Just like how a 600+ pound fat man in a scooter is the height of competitive evolution, right?Nope. QuoteI think Verb's talking about over-competitive.No such thing. Either you win or you don't. QuoteYou ever play chess? That's a form of competition with your buddy or your partner. It's fun to see who can outplay who especially if you're good matches. And then whoever wins, wins, and that's that. A thank you for shared fun and the challenge.That would be playing for fun. A chess tournament would be competitive. QuoteBut sports. You get riots and shit. "Fan loyalty."Stupid people rioting have nothing to do with athletes and competition. QuoteThere's natural competition and then there's stupid competition.There's just competition.Then please, enlighten me about hockey fights. Never mind the riots. Let's focus on the players. Getting so pissed off at each other that they deck each other upside the head with hockey sticks.Coaches actually essentially put "hits" out on rival players. It's been done in football as well. Injure or cripple the other player and they get a pay raise on their check.And playing for fun. Really? The goal in chess is to win. So fucking naturally, you're going to play to win. That's the very fucking definition of competitive even if it's for fun.Again. There's normal competition where everybody does their best to win and they have fun with it. And then there's whatever the fuck sports these days have turned into having players taking steroids and shit just to "win."That's unhealthy competition.It's dishonorable and unsportsmanlike. You can play for fun and have some friendly competition. Of course that's unhealthy. It's not true competition.
What did we gain? Well we had entertainment. But what did the Pats and the NFL gain? Billions of dollars.
Quote from: PSU on February 27, 2015, 07:17:22 PMWhat did we gain? Well we had entertainment. But what did the Pats and the NFL gain? Billions of dollars.For a useless game that accomplishes nothing of substance. Entertainment is worth nothing. We have enough fucking mindless entertainments already. And if one form of entertainment involves the physical extortion of efforts, all for a frivolous game, it's not worth it. It's not worth it at all.
Not everyone is going to be a doctor and try to find the cure for cancer. People have different skills.
Quote from: PSU on February 27, 2015, 07:26:00 PMNot everyone is going to be a doctor and try to find the cure for cancer. People have different skills.And everyone can do something useful with those skills. Right now, I would argue that what I'm doing right now, arguing, that's a skill that I have, and I'm putting it to use through talking to people over the Internet. That's the tiny little difference that I'm trying to make with that particular skill. And that little skill alone is more productive than all the Superbowls and all the World Series combined.
Do you dislike sports?
