Quote from: Verbatim on November 12, 2019, 02:34:07 AMQuote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 02:32:57 AMQuote from: Verbatim on November 12, 2019, 02:03:47 AMQuote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 01:54:50 AMThe way you treat other people is enough justification to ban you from any platform.nopeand the fact that you're incapable of realizing it or making strides to treat people better is reason enough to never give you a second chancethanks for proving my pointnever didyou feel entitled to treat people like shit and you have no mechanism by which to handle criticism in a constructive manner, by those virtues, you've just shown that I was right a second timego on, more short and dismissive answers will only continue to illustrate that I'm right
Quote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 02:32:57 AMQuote from: Verbatim on November 12, 2019, 02:03:47 AMQuote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 01:54:50 AMThe way you treat other people is enough justification to ban you from any platform.nopeand the fact that you're incapable of realizing it or making strides to treat people better is reason enough to never give you a second chancethanks for proving my pointnever did
Quote from: Verbatim on November 12, 2019, 02:03:47 AMQuote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 01:54:50 AMThe way you treat other people is enough justification to ban you from any platform.nopeand the fact that you're incapable of realizing it or making strides to treat people better is reason enough to never give you a second chancethanks for proving my point
Quote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 01:54:50 AMThe way you treat other people is enough justification to ban you from any platform.nope
The way you treat other people is enough justification to ban you from any platform.
Quote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 02:39:15 AMQuote from: Verbatim on November 12, 2019, 02:34:07 AMQuote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 02:32:57 AMQuote from: Verbatim on November 12, 2019, 02:03:47 AMQuote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 01:54:50 AMThe way you treat other people is enough justification to ban you from any platform.nopeand the fact that you're incapable of realizing it or making strides to treat people better is reason enough to never give you a second chancethanks for proving my pointnever didyou feel entitled to treat people like shit and you have no mechanism by which to handle criticism in a constructive manner, by those virtues, you've just shown that I was right a second timego on, more short and dismissive answers will only continue to illustrate that I'm rightthis might have made sense if i've ever done anything worse than say rude things to people who deserve it, but i've never done anything worse than that (on sep7agon, at least)and that's sort of the key to the whole thing, reallyi've never said anything rude to anyone that didn't provoke me first, which pretty much justifies everythingit would be justified even if it wasn't provoked, but there's layers to how wrong you are, is what i'm saying
Quote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 02:39:15 AMQuote from: Verbatim on November 12, 2019, 02:34:07 AMQuote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 02:32:57 AMQuote from: Verbatim on November 12, 2019, 02:03:47 AMQuote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 01:54:50 AMThe way you treat other people is enough justification to ban you from any platform.nopeand the fact that you're incapable of realizing it or making strides to treat people better is reason enough to never give you a second chancethanks for proving my pointnever didyou feel entitled to treat people like shit and you have no mechanism by which to handle criticism in a constructive manner, by those virtues, you've just shown that I was right a second timego on, more short and dismissive answers will only continue to illustrate that I'm rightthis might have made sense if i've ever done anything worse than say rude things to people who deserve it, but i've never done anything worse than that (on sep7agon, at least)and that's sort of the key to the whole thing, reallyi've never said anything rude to anyone that didn't provoke me first, which pretty much justifies everythingit would be justified even if it wasn't provoked, but there's layers to how wrong you are, is what i'm sayingi don't subscribe to this kumbaya ideal of treating everyone nicely regardless of how they treat me, just because i dared to say something like "halo sucks" or "mods ruin the artistic integrity of video games" or "objectifying women is bad"if you get to insult me (in socially acceptable ways, like calling me a troll, which doubles as a gaslight) for having these opinions, i should get to insult you back, because that's fair
I agree with verb, you need consistent rules and banning someone for being a jerk is ludicrous.
So your assertion that you're not an asshole because you don't go out of your way to be an asshole is a pointless and trivial one. You're an asshole because you are an asshole, and you can't work on making yourself a more decent human being because somewhere along the way, you started to feel entitled to be the biggest dickhead in any room you walk into.
As I mention in the above post, nobody is required to include you in their social group, and if a forum moderator or admin makes the decision to exclude you, and most of the forum agrees with your exclusion, then you obviously were not welcome to be involved with those people socially.
Quote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 01:46:31 PMSo your assertion that you're not an asshole because you don't go out of your way to be an asshole is a pointless and trivial one. You're an asshole because you are an asshole, and you can't work on making yourself a more decent human being because somewhere along the way, you started to feel entitled to be the biggest dickhead in any room you walk into.i never said i wasn't an asshole, though, i just don't think that should be a bannable offenseespecially when everyone is an asshole, and it's just about trying to figure out the most socially acceptable way to be one
tbh I figured verb as the type to own up to being an asshole.
Quote from: Aether on November 12, 2019, 02:38:02 PMtbh I figured verb as the type to own up to being an asshole.Saying "yeah I've been an asshole" is meaningless if you don't understand why being an asshole is wrong. At that rate you barely have a concept of what being an asshole is, except at a superficial level. It's kind of like when the crew of Rush Hour tricked Jackie Chan into saying he liked horse porn. Sure he said it, but that doesn't mean he understood it.Being able to recognize the traits of a jerk and being able to understand the reasons those traits make you a jerk are two different things, and based on what we know about Verbatim's conscience, I don't think that if he really understood what it means to be an asshole that he would be okay with it.
"If you don't like the way I'm affecting your social life maybe you should surrender that social circle to me and walk away from it, so I can slowly push everyone else out of that group too, instead of just ejecting me from that circle and saving your extended friendship."
I'm just trying to explain to you why the moderators on the countless sites you're no longer allowed to be a part of were very well within their rights to remove you, and why they wanted to in the first place.
This probably isn't going to mean much coming from a dumb alt account but I just want to say that while I initially didn't have any positive opinions of Verb, I definitely learned to respect him. I used to make playful jabs at him in the earlier years because I just thought he was angry troll or something. They weren't genuine attacks though, so he never really attacked me back and mostly just ignored my dumb comments. I never felt any real malice coming from him. I learned that while he was an asshole, he was an otherwise honest and respectable person. Still had his insufferable moments when it came to certain arguments, but it was more eye-roll worthy than anything. For as stubborn and thick headed as he can be about some topics there's something to appreciate about his consistency while still having the capacity to grow and evolve. This is all just one big community of assholes anyway (with a few rare exceptions) so it seems pretty hypocritical when people just as guilty of being pretentious cuntwipes as him, if not more, are going right for his throat.Solonoid on the other hand has always been a psychopath and all around terrible person. Even SecondClass, who is a braindead walking trainwreck and will probably die from overdose in the next 2 years, is a more redeemable person.
thanks nuka
Quote from: Solonoid on November 12, 2019, 11:26:38 PMI'm just trying to explain to you why the moderators on the countless sites you're no longer allowed to be a part of were very well within their rights to remove you, and why they wanted to in the first place.a notion i'm well-aware of and even conceded to, but that doesn't make it logicalso i'm glad that we agree
What's illogical about not wanting a negative person around?
Quote from: Dietrich Six on November 13, 2019, 10:54:25 PMWhat's illogical about not wanting a negative person around?nothing, but we're not talking about negative peoplewe're talking about people that you personally dislikebig difference
Why do you think people dislike you?
Even SecondClass, who is a braindead walking trainwreck and will probably die from overdose in the next 2 years, is a more redeemable person.
Quote from: Dietrich Six on November 14, 2019, 12:14:24 AMWhy do you think people dislike you?they don't, reallythat's the funny thingthe only person who genuinely dislikes me at this point is deci, and it's no wonder why
Decimator Omega is the most important user here
