Quote from: nͫiͤcͫeͤ on February 03, 2018, 08:19:08 PM

the stock intakes for the supercharger are really poorly designed so what you see is a workaround

oh forced induction, neat! My skyline came with the biggest pod filter in human history and I wanna get an airbox again

are you taking the car back to stock or something?

They're smoking the instant torks meme  a little too much.

As inefficient as a traditional drivetrain is, there comes a point where the raw input size is so significant that the loss to outcome doesn't matter, and alcohol drag builds are definitely at this point.

it’s the new “a stock 2jz Supra is the fastest car in the world, ever.” but even more shilly, I swear

It’s most likely because they are pretty sweet cars from a technological standpoint. And they have the backing of being the “futures car”.

It’s mainly just throwing around torque numbers and acceleration. They aren’t seen as performance vehicles, atleast in most circles. But they are important in a general sense. It’s just a very niche brand and most people who by into it like myself are doing it because they are “unique” in its potential and it’s fun to be apart of a growing movement.

Plus Tesla is the car brand for nerds, for good reason.

they’re the best electric cars to date bar none, but saying they can’t be beat off the line is a bit absurd tbh.

Also since we’re all posting our cars itt now:

Quote from: BC on February 04, 2018, 12:30:02 AM

It’s most likely because they are pretty sweet cars from a technological standpoint. And they have the backing of being the “futures car”.

It’s mainly just throwing around torque numbers and acceleration. They aren’t seen as performance vehicles, atleast in most circles. But they are important in a general sense. It’s just a very niche brand and most people who by into it like myself are doing it because they are “unique” in its potential and it’s fun to be apart of a growing movement.

Plus Tesla is the car brand for nerds, for good reason.

they’re the best electric cars to date bar none, but saying they can’t be beat off the line is a bit absurd tbh.

Also since we’re all posting our cars itt now:

Ryle went for Midtown Madness 3, but I got Need for Speed: Underground 2 on lock

wow nice

all that needs is some simple body work and new paint and it’ll look great

either that or drift that bitch

Oh and getting all the fibreglass cracks repaired too

BC post your cars

This forum doesn’t like brag posts. I can talk about what’s currently on my mind in terms of aqcquistions, as well as conversations surrounding the exotic car market that are negatively impacting resellers/official dealers

Also I’m amazed I saw this without being tagged

Quote from: BC on February 09, 2018, 01:55:48 AM

This forum doesn’t like brag posts. I can talk about what’s currently on my mind in terms of aqcquistions, as well as conversations surrounding the exotic car market that are negatively impacting resellers/official dealers

Also I’m amazed I saw this without being tagged

m’kay

Aw yiss hit me with dat goss fam

Well, a lot of collectors are beginning to get considerably more annoyed about people getting very limited production cars just to sell them off. While I have benefitted from that practice I do understand why it is a problem. It’s become more prominent now with the release of the Bugatti Chiron. Anyone with an ear to the ground will know that a lot, and I mean a lot, of the people who got them took delivery and immediately sold them. Not even through private sales, which is more respectable, but through open dealer driven sales. What this does is not only lets some random person who can afford it by it, but takes away that exclusive feel of being in a circle. That’s why you have companies like Ferrari who penalize people who resell their prestige cars (to be fair they penalize people for doing a lot of things). While dealerships with go and buy one, maybe two version of these types of cars, it doesn’t account for the sheer volume you see on sale.

If you ever meet someone, or see anyone really, who’s looking to buy a limited production car, they will look for private sales, not public listings or houses. Two reasons, it’s one exclusive partner selling to another exclusive party, and the price is usually lower because most people respect that comradery. Public sales are almost always way above the “normal” going rate. Also buying from a dealership usually means that car has had several owners, which isn’t great.

Every now and then a prestine example will go up at a dealership, even some one offs which is fine, but the “generic” orders that are sold all over the place are the problem.

It’s effected people’s views on certain brands for allowing things like this to happen, some big collectors flat out say they won’t continue to be customers. Some brands are benefitting, like Pagani, or are VERY particular about these kinds of things. In fact almost all of their “production cars” are special made one offs. Atleast in more recent years (idk about how the Zonda worked in its first few iterations). But the BC has been quite a big example of one off’s and keeping a car market incredibly special. You don’t see many, if any for sale.


Cars like the 488, 911, and Aventador/Huracan (barring the 50th) aren’t the types of cars this is about. It’s about the BC’s, the new wave of Agera’s, the Veneno’s, the hybrid trio. Those cars

Quote from: BC on February 09, 2018, 02:12:00 AM

Well, a lot of collectors are beginning to get considerably more annoyed about people getting very limited production cars just to sell them off. While I have benefitted from that practice I do understand why it is a problem. It’s become more prominent now with the release of the Bugatti Chiron. Anyone with an ear to the ground will know that a lot, and I mean a lot, of the people who got them took delivery and immediately sold them. Not even through private sales, which is more respectable, but through open dealer driven sales. What this does is not only lets some random person who can afford it by it, but takes away that exclusive feel of being in a circle. That’s why you have companies like Ferrari who penalize people who resell their prestige cars (to be fair they penalize people for doing a lot of things). While dealerships with go and buy one, maybe two version of these types of cars, it doesn’t account for the sheer volume you see on sale.

If you ever meet someone, or see anyone really, who’s looking to buy a limited production car, they will look for private sales, not public listings or houses. Two reasons, it’s one exclusive partner selling to another exclusive party, and the price is usually lower because most people respect that comradery. Public sales are almost always way above the “normal” going rate. Also buying from a dealership usually means that car has had several owners, which isn’t great.

Every now and then a prestine example will go up at a dealership, even some one offs which is fine, but the “generic” orders that are sold all over the place are the problem.

It’s effected people’s views on certain brands for allowing things like this to happen, some big collectors flat out say they won’t continue to be customers. Some brands are benefitting, like Pagani, or are VERY particular about these kinds of things. In fact almost all of their “production cars” are special made one offs. Atleast in more recent years (idk about how the Zonda worked in its first few iterations). But the BC has been quite a big example of one off’s and keeping a car market incredibly special. You don’t see many, if any for sale.


Cars like the 488, 911, and Aventador/Huracan (barring the 50th) aren’t the types of cars this is about. It’s about the BC’s, the new wave of Agera’s, the Veneno’s, the hybrid trio. Those cars

I’ve never heard of this being a problem, but working at a (lower end, mind you) car dealership I can see how it’s a problem. Is this a nation/worldwide issue or is it just limited to some dealers in your area? IIRC Pagani has never made significant fleets of its cars. Biggest run wouldn’t be much larger than 40 total (maybe C12S or F?)

Any prospects on the horizon for you?

It’s worldwide, but only in concentrated areas. For example, stateside it’s a bigger problem then it is in places like Dubai because of the different types of collector cultures.

Pagani makes super low amounts of everything. It’s why they are such a prestigious brand. Owning a BC, or an R is a huge deal. And a lot of people who own them are close friends with Horacio himself. But Pagani does things very different to other brands. While I would love to be apart of that, it’s out of my reach until the production runs are more open and higher numbers.