You know it's bad when even the conservatives on AVC disagree with your retarded ass

First off using one or two exceptions to something is a pretty weak argument
Especially a couple of nobodies from Facebook

That being said
I do not agree with blackmail being rape

A big part of rape is that the woman is saying no but the man is still forcing himself on her

With blackmail, she can say no and not be forced into sex

First off using one or two exceptions to something is a pretty weak argument
Especially a couple of nobodies from Facebook

That being said
I do not agree with blackmail being rape

A big part of rape is that the woman is saying no but the man is still forcing himself on her

With blackmail, she can say no and not be forced into sex

Holy shit, it's like you go out of your way to have the most sophomoric, shitty opinions in the world.

In order for sex to not be rape, all parties must give consent. You can't give consent if you're being coerced into it.

The fact you're having a hard time grasping this is telling of your maturity.

I don't get where this lady is saying that the whole scenario is just a power fantasy of male writers though. Everything I've been told about identifying and combating human trafficking and sexual slavery by the DoD definitely seems to show that most women will reluctantly go though with the deal.

Life is a male power fantasy

Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 11, 2016, 08:03:18 PM

First off using one or two exceptions to something is a pretty weak argument
Especially a couple of nobodies from Facebook

That being said
I do not agree with blackmail being rape

A big part of rape is that the woman is saying no but the man is still forcing himself on her

With blackmail, she can say no and not be forced into sex

coercion is coercion. "consent" under duress (of blackmail, in this case) is not actual consent.

Please tell me where she can not physically get out of having sex with the man

Quote from: Azumarill on December 11, 2016, 08:10:27 PM

Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 11, 2016, 08:03:18 PM

First off using one or two exceptions to something is a pretty weak argument
Especially a couple of nobodies from Facebook

That being said
I do not agree with blackmail being rape

A big part of rape is that the woman is saying no but the man is still forcing himself on her

With blackmail, she can say no and not be forced into sex

coercion is coercion. "consent" under duress (of blackmail, in this case) is not actual consent.

Please tell me where she can not physically get out of having sex with the man

newsflash: physical coercion is not the only possible catalyst for rape

Quote from: Azumarill on December 11, 2016, 09:21:36 PM

Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 11, 2016, 09:10:42 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on December 11, 2016, 08:10:27 PM

Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on December 11, 2016, 08:03:18 PM

First off using one or two exceptions to something is a pretty weak argument
Especially a couple of nobodies from Facebook

That being said
I do not agree with blackmail being rape

A big part of rape is that the woman is saying no but the man is still forcing himself on her

With blackmail, she can say no and not be forced into sex

coercion is coercion. "consent" under duress (of blackmail, in this case) is not actual consent.

Please tell me where she can not physically get out of having sex with the man

newsflash: physical coercion is not the only possible catalyst for rape

What?
If your reading level isn't high enough to understand my first post, let me rephrase

Can she deny him of sex

this has nothing to do with my reading comprehension and everything to do with your ridiculous misinformed ideas about what conditions are necessary for rape to occur

>Making a new thread instead of replying.

They can say 'no'. If they do, they stop being his wife and go back to good boy points.

>le blackmail is rape meme

If you can say no and your are not being physically forced, it's not rape.

also

>Screenshotting a post from some echo chamber you go to in order to validate yourself as a women, even though you will always have a Y chromosome

"have sex with me or I kill your children"

The girl then has sex with him because of this threat

apparently not rape

Yeah
That's blackmail

No one is saying it's not as bad as rape   

I don't get where this lady is saying that the whole scenario is just a power fantasy of male writers though. Everything I've been told about identifying and combating human trafficking and sexual slavery by the DoD definitely seems to show that most women will reluctantly go though with the deal.

sure/okay/fine =/= coerced into a torture or death routine that leaves the survivors psychologically broken for the rest of their lives

"have sex with me or I kill your children"

The girl then has sex with him because of this threat

apparently not rape

>"Fuck me or I kill your child"
>No.

Oh wow, no rape.

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 12, 2016, 12:53:03 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 11, 2016, 10:44:12 PM

"have sex with me or I kill your children"

The girl then has sex with him because of this threat

apparently not rape

>"Fuck me or I kill your child"
>No.

Oh wow, no rape.

Yeah, that's still rape.

Forced consent isn't real consent. Really not a fucking difficult concept.

It's blackmail, not rape. And your example is blown out of proportion from what happens in TWD. Negan just says "Fuck me or you'll have to go back to earning your food like everybody else." That's much different than killing a child, you can easily say no to the offer.