Race DOES exist. It's just a social construct.
When someone who is not part of your culture tries to emulate said culture, they're just embarrassing themselves. You have to be at least partially ingrained within the culture to not come off as either a clown or someone who is trying to be offensive.
no one gives a shit about historical accuracy holy shitstop being autisticit's just a heartbreaking, catchy musical
Caring about historical accuracy this much is pretty fucking dumb--especially when it's not TRYING to be historically accurate.that said i have no idea if hamilton is trying to be historically accurate
When I fuck white girls I make them yell their pussy belongs to people of color.
But you're clearly not trying to destroy cultures since your worried about them being diluted.
2) The fact that you're trying to protect cultures from harm means you value them and think that they deserve to be protcted, hence sacred.
QED.
Historical accuracy is important because then we have dip shits running around thinking Angelica Schuyler really did lust after Hamilton.
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 01:51:18 PMno one gives a shit about historical accuracy holy shitstop being autisticit's just a heartbreaking, catchy musicalI bet you think the movie where Lincoln was a vampire hunter was better than the Oscar winning Lincoln. Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2016, 01:52:22 PMCaring about historical accuracy this much is pretty fucking dumb--especially when it's not TRYING to be historically accurate.that said i have no idea if hamilton is trying to be historically accurateHistorical accuracy is important because then we have dip shits running around thinking Angelica Schuyler really did lust after Hamilton.
so instead of allowing artists to express themselves however they want, we should just cater to idiots
And who gives a shit if people think that Angelica was into Alexander? That's on them, not the play. If people thought that Lincoln actually hunted vampires, would that be the fault of that movie? No, because it never claimed it was historically accurate, and neither did Hamilton.
There is an argument to be made that influential media has a responsibility to not deceive it's audience with it's influence.
And Hamilton didn't. It would be deception if Lin Manuel Miranda claimed his work was historically accurate, but time and time again he's stated that it's the opposite of that.
Vampire Hunter is balls to the walls over the top to the point that you can tell it's full of shit, it's also common sense that vampires don't fucking exist. The problem is the Hamilton cast may even say they're taking liberties but how often do you hear that? You still have mindless masses eating it up believing everything in the script and then they go and tout their knowledge of the founding father. Not many people bother to look into this shit past high school and only at a college level will you find these true facts, so this will be passed off as common knowledge. Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 02:23:05 PMAnd who gives a shit if people think that Angelica was into Alexander? That's on them, not the play. If people thought that Lincoln actually hunted vampires, would that be the fault of that movie? No, because it never claimed it was historically accurate, and neither did Hamilton.
The fact that he has to say it more than once means no one's listening to that fact. Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 02:28:31 PMAnd Hamilton didn't. It would be deception if Lin Manuel Miranda claimed his work was historically accurate, but time and time again he's stated that it's the opposite of that.
Quote from: Azendac on November 24, 2016, 02:26:44 PMThere is an argument to be made that influential media has a responsibility to not deceive it's audience with it's influence.And Hamilton didn't. It would be deception if Lin Manuel Miranda claimed his work was historically accurate, but time and time again he's stated that it's the opposite of that.
If you watch ANY historical adaptation and believe that what was presented to you was the complete truth, you're a moron. That's not the fault of the adaptation.
Who gives a fuck? He did his part, and you can't hold it against him or the play without being as moronic as those who take it as fact.
serious question, do you actually have any values you hold beyond anti-natalism and snarking at people? Not even taking the piss here, just curious.
Veganism. I would say ultra-leftism, but I'm honestly much less of a leftist as I am just anti-alt-right.
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 02:28:31 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 24, 2016, 02:26:44 PMThere is an argument to be made that influential media has a responsibility to not deceive it's audience with it's influence.And Hamilton didn't. It would be deception if Lin Manuel Miranda claimed his work was historically accurate, but time and time again he's stated that it's the opposite of that.Meh, there's not much point in saying you're going to do one thing, and then inadvertently doing the opposite. Again, I'm not interested in defending idiots from themselves, but saying "I didn't mean to be deceptive" isn't a defense for being deceptive.Course, I'm speaking generally here, I've never even heard of Hamilton before this week and have no interest in learning about it.
The problem here is that most adaptions go out of their way to be accurate, not embellish it. Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 02:31:29 PMIf you watch ANY historical adaptation and believe that what was presented to you was the complete truth, you're a moron. That's not the fault of the adaptation.
Everyone who has to put up with dumbasses that tout it as fact. Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 02:32:24 PMWho gives a fuck? He did his part, and you can't hold it against him or the play without being as moronic as those who take it as fact.
Not really. And even if that was the case, that doesn't mean everyone has to follow the status quo.
Quote from: Azendac on November 24, 2016, 02:24:30 PMserious question, do you actually have any values you hold beyond anti-natalism and snarking at people? Not even taking the piss here, just curious.Veganism. I would say ultra-leftism, but I'm honestly much less of a leftist as I am just anti-alt-right.
Your reasoning for hating Hamilton is fucking retarded, and has nothing to do with the play itself.
Yes really. How often do we get serious adaptions of history where accuracy isn't taken into account other than Hamilton? Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 02:35:37 PMNot really. And even if that was the case, that doesn't mean everyone has to follow the status quo.
Quote from: Azendac on November 24, 2016, 02:32:38 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 02:28:31 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 24, 2016, 02:26:44 PMThere is an argument to be made that influential media has a responsibility to not deceive it's audience with it's influence.And Hamilton didn't. It would be deception if Lin Manuel Miranda claimed his work was historically accurate, but time and time again he's stated that it's the opposite of that.Meh, there's not much point in saying you're going to do one thing, and then inadvertently doing the opposite. Again, I'm not interested in defending idiots from themselves, but saying "I didn't mean to be deceptive" isn't a defense for being deceptive.Course, I'm speaking generally here, I've never even heard of Hamilton before this week and have no interest in learning about it.Except he didn't fucking do the opposite. His goal was to tell a deeply fictionalized and romanticized version of the story, and that's what he did. He has no obligation to make his intentionally fictionalized play some completely truthful biopic any more than the guy who wrote Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter does.
Hamilton isn't a serious adaptation, not by a long shot. If I had to put it between Vampire Lincoln and Day-Lewis Lincoln in terms of intentions and role, it would be much closer to the former.Seems you misunderstood the entire point of the play. It's goal is to entertain; make you laugh, cry, and stay on the edge of your seat. Not to teach.
It's normie-bait bastardizing shit I got picked on for liking back in high school, of course I'm going to be angry at people who hate history suddenly calling themselves history buffs. Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2016, 02:37:47 PMYour reasoning for hating Hamilton is fucking retarded, and has nothing to do with the play itself.
cultural appropriation
