like no dick, adams apple, etc. but you still retain your masculine personality

or do the hormones and pills and shit take that away

I don't understand the question.

okay so theres a dude who wants to look and "be" a chick (no dick, feminine looks, etc.) but he wants to still be mentally a dude (masculine personality)

if he goes through with surgery and hormones and stuff, that isn't possible, right? you can't fully transition to the opposite sex unless you go through hormone treatment, and that effects your mind, right?


basically i was having a conversation with a buddy about how a trans chick (m to f) would be the best of both worlds cuz you get a person that looks like a chick but doesn't come with all the problems a chick would. but then he said "yeah but the hormones would just change him into a chick in that way anyway".

why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?

why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?

maybe you're gay and youre in love with an open-minded straight dude, so you go through with the transition for him?

idk, just a hypothetical situation.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 15, 2017, 08:54:51 PM

I don't understand the question.

okay so theres a dude who wants to look and "be" a chick (no dick, feminine looks, etc.) but he wants to still be mentally a dude (masculine personality)

if he goes through with surgery and hormones and stuff, that isn't possible, right? you can't fully transition to the opposite sex unless you go through hormone treatment, and that effects your mind, right?


basically i was having a conversation with a buddy about how a trans chick (m to f) would be the best of both worlds cuz you get a person that looks like a chick but doesn't come with all the problems a chick would. but then he said "yeah but the hormones would just change him into a chick in that way anyway".

The hormones will change some thought processes because you are changing your chemical balancing. That doesn't mean you'd become a Barbie if you were a macho man, but the "problems" you'd get with a natural female would be very similar to the ones you'd have with mtf.

There's a general belief that mtf tend to be unstable, at least in comparison to ftm. Estrogen's a hell of a drug.

Quote from: Non-entity on January 15, 2017, 08:57:25 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 15, 2017, 08:54:51 PM

I don't understand the question.

okay so theres a dude who wants to look and "be" a chick (no dick, feminine looks, etc.) but he wants to still be mentally a dude (masculine personality)

if he goes through with surgery and hormones and stuff, that isn't possible, right? you can't fully transition to the opposite sex unless you go through hormone treatment, and that effects your mind, right?


basically i was having a conversation with a buddy about how a trans chick (m to f) would be the best of both worlds cuz you get a person that looks like a chick but doesn't come with all the problems a chick would. but then he said "yeah but the hormones would just change him into a chick in that way anyway".

The hormones will change some thought processes because you are changing your chemical balancing. That doesn't mean you'd become a Barbie if you were a macho man, but the "problems" you'd get with a natural female would be very similar to the ones you'd have with mtf.

There's a general belief that mtf tend to be unstable, at least in comparison to ftm. Estrogen's a hell of a drug.

oh... that's disheartening

It's not like it just flat out changes their personality but it does affect their emotional state

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2017, 08:59:48 PM

why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?

i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though

You wanna flick that bean don'tcha

Quote from: Azumarill on January 15, 2017, 09:50:12 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2017, 08:59:48 PM

why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?

i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though

autogynophilia

I don't get why this is everyone's go to diagnosis for late transitioners

it doesn't seem like that many people would have a transition fetish

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2017, 09:56:48 PM

Quote from: Nuka on January 15, 2017, 09:55:27 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on January 15, 2017, 09:50:12 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2017, 08:59:48 PM

why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?

i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though

autogynophilia

I don't get why this is everyone's go to diagnosis for late transitioners

it doesn't seem like that many people would have a transition fetish

AGPs are just people with an extreme fetish. Basically if the idea of having a female body gives you a boner, you're AGP. They're not real trannys but they like to pretend to be.

I know....?

Hence why I said I don't know why everyone always diagnoses late transitioners with being agp

it seems more obscure than people make it out to be

Basically if the idea of having a female body gives you a boner, you're AGP.

it doesnt give me a boner

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2017, 08:59:48 PM

why would you want to transition into a girl if you're not one mentally?

i dont/never have had feelings of gender/sexual dysphoria but if you took me to a doctors office tomorrow and told me that i had the option to upload my consciousness to a cyborg body id choose a feminine model. the "why" of it isnt entirely clear to me though

If I had to take a guess, I'd wager part of it comes down to curiousity. The opposite sex is alien to the one you know.

Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol

Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol

I thought both of them did.

Quote from: Sαndtrap on January 15, 2017, 10:51:24 PM

Quote from: Friend on January 15, 2017, 10:50:11 PM

Reminds me of that one Wachowski brother that transitioned to a girl and then went lesbian lol

I thought both of them did.

they've both transitioned but i'm not sure about both of them being lesbians

Makes me wonder. Depending on the strength of a relationship between siblings, there's a lot of influence when it comes to choices.

I wonder if one going through the process more or less potentially influenced the other. When I say influence I don't mean "help bring out of the closet." More or less effect the other enough to warrent a change instead.