Can We Talk About the Best Anime of This Season?

 
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When I think of sex being portrayed in a negative light, I'm not really thinking about rape--I'm thinking about making a caricature of what consensual sex really is--crude, sweaty, disgusting. Carnal. Simple-minded. Unintelligent. Unsophisticated. Animalistic.

Think Requiem for a Dream, but instead of being mostly about drugs, it's about sex instead. That's what I want to see: a commentary on how even casual sex is just another worthless vice, yet most people are too crass and superficial to really think about how or why. All they want is to make white stuff come out of their dicks, and that's true happiness to them. It's a goal for some people to have sex. I want a show that expresses how pathetic it is that we put sex on this pedestal.

If there's an anime that treats sex like that, then hit me up with it. But none exist, because they're all created by the sex-crazed culture that is Nippon.
Last Edit: September 12, 2016, 11:40:30 AM by Verbatim


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Yet still manages to be a strong character nonetheless.

I thought Verbatim would like that virtually all sex is portrayed negatively.
And in general, I'd hate to grow attached to some cool character only to watch them get raped. That's, like... No.
i feel like expanding on this a bit because this can easily be misconstrued as me not wanting anything bad to happen to female characters, which is what a lot of anti-fems seem to think about statements like that

Conflict is the most important thing about any story--without conflict, there is no story. If a character isn't put through hell in some way, then there's no reason to care about their life or whatever it is they're trying to accomplish.

Here's the thing, though--you still have to write conflict well. You can't have what's called "conflict for the sake of conflict," or conflict for the sake of moving the plot forward, instead of being an organic presence throughout the story.

When I say I don't want to see a female character get raped, it's not just because rape is an unpleasant and extremely touchy subject matter that makes me viscerally uncomfortable. I loved the Millenium trilogy (Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc), and that series is filled with rape--BUT, it still managed to write them in intelligent and non-indulgent ways. They disgusted me, but they never offended me. The rape scenes are not erotic--they're disturbing, as they should be. They're not trying to entice the viewer--they want the victim to rise up later in the film and KILL that motherfucker. Or whatever. Revenge plots are lazy, but satisfying--it's the easiest way to pull off a rape scene without making me cringe with how edgy you're trying to be.

Berserk goes out of its way to take the offensive route. It tries to make it erotic--you can tell by the way the scenes are drawn. That's what I take umbrage with. And if what Dietrich is saying is correct, the fact that her character gets basically destroyed afterwards certainly doesn't do it any favors for me.

So I'm not saying women can never get raped in fiction--just, if you're gonna try it out, you have to do it with respect--and that's clearly not Berserk's mission statement. Berserk is just A Serbian Film--dumb shock value of the sake of dumb shock value. Edge for the sake of edge. I see no value in that.

It's actually one of the more moving moments in the show. The anime handled it a lot better imo and you didn't see what was happening, it wasn't meant to entice.

Guts' whole crew is murdered by demons and as a final fuck you his arm is chewed off and he's forced to watch the woman he loves being raped while a demon holds him down and gouges out his eye.

And here lies the problem. She is raped to develop his character. The entire scene was meant for you to emphasize with Guts and to show that he literally has nothing left. Casca, instead of just dying like the rest of the crew, is kept around as a reminder of the terrible things that he endured, without any sort of redemption for her.

I get that is a pivotal part of the story and it hits you like a ton of bricks when it happens but let's not pretend she's treated with respect or that she was anything but motivation for Guts.


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That being said, it's still one of my favorite anime and even the new adaptation with its awful animation is still pretty stellar.


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SAO is a masterpiece of writing and Kirito is a layered and complex protagonist

I agree completely. Definitely the best anime available.


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“I’ve become skeptical of the unwritten rule that just because a boy and girl appear in the same feature, a romance must ensue. Rather, I want to portray a slightly different relationship, one where the two mutually inspire each other to live - if I’m able to, then perhaps I’ll be closer to portraying a true expression of love.”
SAO is a masterpiece of writing and Kirito is a layered and complex protagonist
I agree completely. Definitely the best anime available.
You guys should give Abunai Sisters a go. It expands the core conceits of SAO and elevates them to a new sublime level of visual entertainment.


 
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I should try and read berserk


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I should try and read berserk
lol you cant read


 
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I should try and read berserk

Ender just wants to look at the naughty pictures.