Quote from: Verbatim on September 11, 2016, 10:02:35 PMQuote from: Caped Baldy on September 11, 2016, 09:53:47 PMYet still manages to be a strong character nonetheless.I thought Verbatim would like that virtually all sex is portrayed negatively.And in general, I'd hate to grow attached to some cool character only to watch them get raped. That's, like... No.i feel like expanding on this a bit because this can easily be misconstrued as me not wanting anything bad to happen to female characters, which is what a lot of anti-fems seem to think about statements like thatConflict is the most important thing about any story--without conflict, there is no story. If a character isn't put through hell in some way, then there's no reason to care about their life or whatever it is they're trying to accomplish.Here's the thing, though--you still have to write conflict well. You can't have what's called "conflict for the sake of conflict," or conflict for the sake of moving the plot forward, instead of being an organic presence throughout the story.When I say I don't want to see a female character get raped, it's not just because rape is an unpleasant and extremely touchy subject matter that makes me viscerally uncomfortable. I loved the Millenium trilogy (Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, etc), and that series is filled with rape--BUT, it still managed to write them in intelligent and non-indulgent ways. They disgusted me, but they never offended me. The rape scenes are not erotic--they're disturbing, as they should be. They're not trying to entice the viewer--they want the victim to rise up later in the film and KILL that motherfucker. Or whatever. Revenge plots are lazy, but satisfying--it's the easiest way to pull off a rape scene without making me cringe with how edgy you're trying to be.Berserk goes out of its way to take the offensive route. It tries to make it erotic--you can tell by the way the scenes are drawn. That's what I take umbrage with. And if what Dietrich is saying is correct, the fact that her character gets basically destroyed afterwards certainly doesn't do it any favors for me.So I'm not saying women can never get raped in fiction--just, if you're gonna try it out, you have to do it with respect--and that's clearly not Berserk's mission statement. Berserk is just A Serbian Film--dumb shock value of the sake of dumb shock value. Edge for the sake of edge. I see no value in that.
Quote from: Caped Baldy on September 11, 2016, 09:53:47 PMYet still manages to be a strong character nonetheless.I thought Verbatim would like that virtually all sex is portrayed negatively.And in general, I'd hate to grow attached to some cool character only to watch them get raped. That's, like... No.
Yet still manages to be a strong character nonetheless.I thought Verbatim would like that virtually all sex is portrayed negatively.
SAO is a masterpiece of writing and Kirito is a layered and complex protagonist
Quote from: SecondClass on September 12, 2016, 02:53:55 AMSAO is a masterpiece of writing and Kirito is a layered and complex protagonistI agree completely. Definitely the best anime available.
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I should try and read berserk
Quote from: Ender on September 12, 2016, 09:25:45 PMI should try and read berserklol you cant read