Body cam shows events leading up to rookie cop's death

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I can't imagine the stress of actually being a cop.

I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people.
I am 100% certain that is not most cops.

It is the overwhelming majority of them. How many cops would let someone they found with heroin go?
It's overwhelmingly not the majority of them.

So, you're saying most cops won't arrest someone that is in possession of heroin? I request you do an experiment where you purchase some heroin and go around using it near police. See how many ignore you before one finally arrests you and we'll have a solid test.
You're the one claiming they won't. You prove it.

This is easy.

"According to the recent Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, There have been over twelve million cannabis arrests in the United States since 1996 including 749,825 persons for marijuana violations in 2012. Of those charged with marijuana violations in 2012, 658,231 were charged with possession only. The remaining 91,593 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that does not differentiate for cultivation offenses, even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. Marijuana arrests comprise almost one-half (48.3 percent) of all drug arrests reported in the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#Crime
>asking you to prove a claim about heroin
>you give evidence about cannabis

Wait, what does heroin or cannabis even have to do with anything?

You've gone full incoherent. Never go full incoherent.


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I can't imagine the stress of actually being a cop.

I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people.
I am 100% certain that is not most cops.

It is the overwhelming majority of them. How many cops would let someone they found with heroin go?
It's overwhelmingly not the majority of them.

So, you're saying most cops won't arrest someone that is in possession of heroin? I request you do an experiment where you purchase some heroin and go around using it near police. See how many ignore you before one finally arrests you and we'll have a solid test.
You're the one claiming they won't. You prove it.

This is easy.

"According to the recent Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, There have been over twelve million cannabis arrests in the United States since 1996 including 749,825 persons for marijuana violations in 2012. Of those charged with marijuana violations in 2012, 658,231 were charged with possession only. The remaining 91,593 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that does not differentiate for cultivation offenses, even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. Marijuana arrests comprise almost one-half (48.3 percent) of all drug arrests reported in the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#Crime
>asking you to prove a claim about heroin
>you give evidence about cannabis

Wait, what does heroin or cannabis even have to do with anything?

You've gone full incoherent. Never go full incoherent.

The only incoherence is your own. This still proved my point, but if you don't believe people get locked up for heroin and may other drugs all of the time, well, that's something you need to research. I don't need to prove something that is already established as common sense. Prohibition of drugs is completely unjust and criminal. The point is, cops that are not truly corrupt would NEVER arrest someone for possessing, using, selling or producing drugs. Period. Prostitution as well.
Your point is irrelevant to the discussion. You simply pulled it out of your ass because you needed an out from a losing argument.


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I can't imagine the stress of actually being a cop.

I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people.
I am 100% certain that is not most cops.

It is the overwhelming majority of them. How many cops would let someone they found with heroin go?
It's overwhelmingly not the majority of them.

So, you're saying most cops won't arrest someone that is in possession of heroin? I request you do an experiment where you purchase some heroin and go around using it near police. See how many ignore you before one finally arrests you and we'll have a solid test.
You're the one claiming they won't. You prove it.

This is easy.

"According to the recent Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, There have been over twelve million cannabis arrests in the United States since 1996 including 749,825 persons for marijuana violations in 2012. Of those charged with marijuana violations in 2012, 658,231 were charged with possession only. The remaining 91,593 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that does not differentiate for cultivation offenses, even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. Marijuana arrests comprise almost one-half (48.3 percent) of all drug arrests reported in the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#Crime
>asking you to prove a claim about heroin
>you give evidence about cannabis

Wait, what does heroin or cannabis even have to do with anything?

You've gone full incoherent. Never go full incoherent.

The only incoherence is your own. This still proved my point, but if you don't believe people get locked up for heroin and may other drugs all of the time, well, that's something you need to research. I don't need to prove something that is already established as common sense. Prohibition of drugs is completely unjust and criminal. The point is, cops that are not truly corrupt would NEVER arrest someone for possessing, using, selling or producing drugs. Period. Prostitution as well.
Your point is irrelevant to the discussion. You simply pulled it out of your ass because you needed an out from a losing argument.

You're only speaking about yourself, as I just humiliated you and proved you were wrong. My point is entirely relevant and shows all cops have to be corrupt. The fact you don't like addressing reality doesn't make it any less true.
lol

You didn't prove anything. You can't just declare victory like that. And besides, marijuana is still illegal in most of the country. You make it sound like cops aren't supposed to enforce the law or something.


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I can't imagine the stress of actually being a cop.

I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people.
I am 100% certain that is not most cops.

It is the overwhelming majority of them. How many cops would let someone they found with heroin go?
It's overwhelmingly not the majority of them.

So, you're saying most cops won't arrest someone that is in possession of heroin? I request you do an experiment where you purchase some heroin and go around using it near police. See how many ignore you before one finally arrests you and we'll have a solid test.
You're the one claiming they won't. You prove it.

This is easy.

"According to the recent Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, There have been over twelve million cannabis arrests in the United States since 1996 including 749,825 persons for marijuana violations in 2012. Of those charged with marijuana violations in 2012, 658,231 were charged with possession only. The remaining 91,593 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that does not differentiate for cultivation offenses, even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. Marijuana arrests comprise almost one-half (48.3 percent) of all drug arrests reported in the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#Crime
>asking you to prove a claim about heroin
>you give evidence about cannabis

Wait, what does heroin or cannabis even have to do with anything?

You've gone full incoherent. Never go full incoherent.

The only incoherence is your own. This still proved my point, but if you don't believe people get locked up for heroin and may other drugs all of the time, well, that's something you need to research. I don't need to prove something that is already established as common sense. Prohibition of drugs is completely unjust and criminal. The point is, cops that are not truly corrupt would NEVER arrest someone for possessing, using, selling or producing drugs. Period. Prostitution as well.
Your point is irrelevant to the discussion. You simply pulled it out of your ass because you needed an out from a losing argument.

You're only speaking about yourself, as I just humiliated you and proved you were wrong. My point is entirely relevant and shows all cops have to be corrupt. The fact you don't like addressing reality doesn't make it any less true.
The only one humiliated is yourself. By speaking into the mirror, you have proven that you are incoherent. You are delusional.


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I can't imagine the stress of actually being a cop.

I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people.
I am 100% certain that is not most cops.

It is the overwhelming majority of them. How many cops would let someone they found with heroin go?
It's overwhelmingly not the majority of them.

So, you're saying most cops won't arrest someone that is in possession of heroin? I request you do an experiment where you purchase some heroin and go around using it near police. See how many ignore you before one finally arrests you and we'll have a solid test.
You're the one claiming they won't. You prove it.

This is easy.

"According to the recent Federal Bureau of Investigation's annual Uniform Crime Report, There have been over twelve million cannabis arrests in the United States since 1996 including 749,825 persons for marijuana violations in 2012. Of those charged with marijuana violations in 2012, 658,231 were charged with possession only. The remaining 91,593 individuals were charged with "sale/manufacture," a category that does not differentiate for cultivation offenses, even those where the marijuana was being grown for personal or medical use. Marijuana arrests comprise almost one-half (48.3 percent) of all drug arrests reported in the United States."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_the_United_States#Crime
>asking you to prove a claim about heroin
>you give evidence about cannabis

Wait, what does heroin or cannabis even have to do with anything?

You've gone full incoherent. Never go full incoherent.

The only incoherence is your own. This still proved my point, but if you don't believe people get locked up for heroin and may other drugs all of the time, well, that's something you need to research. I don't need to prove something that is already established as common sense. Prohibition of drugs is completely unjust and criminal. The point is, cops that are not truly corrupt would NEVER arrest someone for possessing, using, selling or producing drugs. Period. Prostitution as well.
Your point is irrelevant to the discussion. You simply pulled it out of your ass because you needed an out from a losing argument.

You're only speaking about yourself, as I just humiliated you and proved you were wrong. My point is entirely relevant and shows all cops have to be corrupt. The fact you don't like addressing reality doesn't make it any less true.
lol

You didn't prove anything. You can't just declare victory like that. And besides, marijuana is still illegal in most of the country. You make it sound like cops aren't supposed to enforce the law or something.

I did prove it. You claimed cops would not arrest people for drugs, and I showed you they do, a lot. Cannabis is not illegal, the unjust laws are the only thing illegal. It infringes upon our freedoms which they have no authority to do. No one should enforce unjust laws. Are cops just dummies that do whatever they are told no matter how wrong they know it is?
But I never made that claim. Ever. You just threw that accusation into one of your responses to me. Regardless of whether it's unjust, they're not necessarily wrong for doing their jobs unless it strongly violates moral boundaries or their own conscience.


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I did prove it. You claimed cops would not arrest people for drugs, and I showed you they do, a lot. Cannabis is not illegal, the unjust laws are the only thing illegal. It infringes upon our freedoms which they have no authority to do. No one should enforce unjust laws. Are cops just dummies that do whatever they are told no matter how wrong they know it is?
But I never made that claim. Ever. You just threw that accusation into one of your responses to me. Regardless of whether it's unjust, they're not necessarily wrong for doing their jobs unless it strongly violates moral boundaries or their own conscience.

Infringing upon freedoms DOES violate moral boundaries. You just admitted you were wrong. Also, are you really saying I put it into your responses? Let's review...

I began with, "I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people."
1) Stop lying about your alleged job offers
2) Arresting someone for having drugs is hardly deplorable compared to, I don't know, beating peaceful protesters with nightsticks
3) You're only proving yourself wrong by *attempting* to continue this argument.

You're wrong, again.
Not at all.
Last Edit: January 19, 2015, 09:23:54 PM by Kupo


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I did prove it. You claimed cops would not arrest people for drugs, and I showed you they do, a lot. Cannabis is not illegal, the unjust laws are the only thing illegal. It infringes upon our freedoms which they have no authority to do. No one should enforce unjust laws. Are cops just dummies that do whatever they are told no matter how wrong they know it is?
But I never made that claim. Ever. You just threw that accusation into one of your responses to me. Regardless of whether it's unjust, they're not necessarily wrong for doing their jobs unless it strongly violates moral boundaries or their own conscience.

Infringing upon freedoms DOES violate moral boundaries. You just admitted you were wrong. Also, are you really saying I put it into your responses? Let's review...

I began with, "I've had a few offers to be a cop, and there's a reason I never took it. I can deal with pathetic people, I can even deal with having to take on multiple drunks, but I could never sacrifice my principle and infringe upon people like cops do. You spend your day robbing from mostly productive people."
1) Stop lying about your alleged job offers
2) Arresting someone for having drugs is hardly deplorable compared to, I don't know, beating peaceful protesters with nightsticks
3) You're only proving yourself wrong by *attempting* to continue this argument.

You're wrong, again.
Not at all.

1. You can get over your obsession. I have some friends that constantly bug me into trying to join, at the same time I try and get them out of the corruption, which to their credit even they acknowledge exists and are not happy about. Also, the person I got my guard card through was devastated when I told him I never had the intention of ever becoming a cop.
2. Both are extremely wrong, as it often times leads to the officers murdering the victims, sometimes they even receive a vacation after. Nice job trying to make it less of an issue than what it is because you realize you were wrong and are now embarrassed.
3. You've offered me no actual argument, you've only been showing how naive, obsessed and pathetic you are.

You're wrong.
1) I sincerely, honestly doubt your claims about the cop job offer.

2) lol. Nothing about those statements are even remotely true.

3) I have refuted every point you've brought up. Also, name-calling has no place in Serious.


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Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals

Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.

I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.

Now, back on topic please.


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Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals

Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.

I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.

Now, back on topic please.

What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.
Camnator, you haven't provided any proof at all, and then you belittle other users for their rebuttals. That is not appropriate behavior for this board.

And a single incident of police brutality is hardly evidence that all police actions are brutality. That's poor reasoning even by your standards.
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Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.

I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.

Now, back on topic please.

What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.

Provide links, articles, charts, something more than simply your own views.
The type of discussion you are having is simply baiting other users and calling them wrong.

If the trolling and derailing continues, you will get a warning.


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Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals

Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.

I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.

Now, back on topic please.

What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.
Camnator, you haven't provided any proof at all, and then you belittle other users for their rebuttals. That is not appropriate behavior for this board.

I have provided proof, and nearly everyone here belittles everyone, yes, even you. When the behavior of the board is set in stone and not such a joke then I shall acknowledge it. Just as I never followed any unjust cannabis laws, I also don't follow any nonsensical rule that can't even be enforced evenly. You offered no rebuttal, you only proved yourself wrong.

It wasn't one instance of corruption, these things in the video happen nearly every day.
Regardless of how you feel about the (very reasonable) rules of this board, you are still obligated to follow them.

And yes, it was a single incident, unless that video is somehow a montage of multiple separate incidents.
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Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals

Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.

I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.

Now, back on topic please.

What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.

Provide links, articles, charts, something more than simply your own views.
The type of discussion you are having is simply baiting other users and calling them wrong.

If the trolling and derailing continues, you will get a warning.

I did, which you'd know had you actually read this thread. I've explained how they are wrong.

Thanks for admitting you're delusional. Trolls are mythical creatures and you are the only one here derailing the thread, which isn't even a locomotive in the first place. Also, will this be my first of 18 warnings like everyone else get, or is it just going to be more bias?
You've gone off the rails -____-

You tried to explain your points, and they were promptly refuted. Calling me "delusional" isn't helping your case.


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Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals

Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.

I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.

Now, back on topic please.

What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.

Provide links, articles, charts, something more than simply your own views.
The type of discussion you are having is simply baiting other users and calling them wrong.

If the trolling and derailing continues, you will get a warning.

I did, which you'd know had you actually read this thread. I've explained how they are wrong.

Thanks for admitting you're delusional. Trolls are mythical creatures and you are the only one here derailing the thread, which isn't even a locomotive in the first place. Also, will this be my first of 18 warnings like everyone else get, or is it just going to be more bias?
You've gone off the rails -____-

You tried to explain your points, and they were promptly refuted. Calling me "delusional" isn't helping your case.

the only one refuted here was yourself, which is why even you admitted you were wrong earlier.
You keep claiming I admitted being wrong, but where did that happen?


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Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals

Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.

I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.

Now, back on topic please.

What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.

Provide links, articles, charts, something more than simply your own views.
The type of discussion you are having is simply baiting other users and calling them wrong.

If the trolling and derailing continues, you will get a warning.

I did, which you'd know had you actually read this thread. I've explained how they are wrong.

Thanks for admitting you're delusional. Trolls are mythical creatures and you are the only one here derailing the thread, which isn't even a locomotive in the first place. Also, will this be my first of 18 warnings like everyone else get, or is it just going to be more bias?
You've gone off the rails -____-

You tried to explain your points, and they were promptly refuted. Calling me "delusional" isn't helping your case.

the only one refuted here was yourself, which is why even you admitted you were wrong earlier.
You keep claiming I admitted being wrong, but where did that happen?

Read the first page. How did you allegedly refute me?
How did I not refute you?


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Please make sure to have a serious discussion in this thread and provide evidence to support your claims rather than using personal opinions in place of rebuttals

Coming from the guy making an irrelevant comment adding nothing to the discussion.

I'm notifying you of what we expect in the Serious Board. Excessive commenting with no evidence but simply personal opinions is hindering actual discussion.

Now, back on topic please.

What you expect is constantly changing. Also, I have at least provided proof of my claims. Even if someone wasn't, how is that hindering anyone else from having a conversation? That makes no sense, especially when you can mute them and not have to look at their posts at all. Your comment was the only one here not on topic. Glorious.

Provide links, articles, charts, something more than simply your own views.
The type of discussion you are having is simply baiting other users and calling them wrong.

If the trolling and derailing continues, you will get a warning.

I did, which you'd know had you actually read this thread. I've explained how they are wrong.

Thanks for admitting you're delusional. Trolls are mythical creatures and you are the only one here derailing the thread, which isn't even a locomotive in the first place. Also, will this be my first of 18 warnings like everyone else get, or is it just going to be more bias?
You've gone off the rails -____-

You tried to explain your points, and they were promptly refuted. Calling me "delusional" isn't helping your case.

the only one refuted here was yourself, which is why even you admitted you were wrong earlier.
You keep claiming I admitted being wrong, but where did that happen?

Read the first page. How did you allegedly refute me?
How did I not refute you?
Well, Camnator made the claim that the overwhelming majority of police officers would not let someone go if they were in the possession of illegal drugs, he specifically stated heroin in that incident but specifically stated marijuana later. Your problem was that he changed the specific illegal drug when in reality that wasn't what the main point was.

Seriously, why is Camnator banned for this? I admit he's not the most reasonable in how he responds to people at times, but he linked more sources than Kupo did, and Kupo was pretty much just saying "Nope, you're wrong, I don't believe you".