Be honest, who here still hasn’t seen Baccano?

 
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Please just take my recommendation and watch this fantastic show if you haven’t yet. But if that’s not enough, take a look at this video above. It excellently sums up what’s so great about this show, and I want to actually challenge Verbatim’s argument from his Evangelion review about themes in this post.



Baccano is a multi-faceted mystery/drama with plenty of comedic elements. It takes place in Prohibition-era America, in three timelines that ultimately connect to each other in plot relevance (1929, 1930, and 1931). It has a huge cast of interesting characters, some appearing in only one timeline, some appearing in two, and one set of characters, extremely important but essentially comic characters, who appear in all three. Despite how muddled this may sound, it never gets bogged down and you’re never at a lull where you’re asking “wait, who is this guy again”?

The characters make the show, in my opinion, but make no mistake - the plot of the show is one of the most well-crafted ones where you’re never confused, but always wanting more. The only time you might be scratching your head is at the end of the first episode, as, fair warning, it’s more of a “vignettes of things to come” situation that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense on first viewing except to the most eagle-eyed viewer. I always tell people that no, you can’t skip the first episode, as it expertly sets up the characters and the tone, but the first aspect of a concise, serialized story begins in the second episode.

The show is almost, almost like a “Pulp Fiction meets a mafia movie meets a supernatural horror story”, in a way. That’s just a simple comparison, though, and the show itself is unique and unlike anything you’ve probably seen.

This show makes me disagree with Verbatim’s idea that themes make a story. He said that without themes, without the tomato in the sandwich, a story is just bread. That may be the case with most stories, yes. That may be the case when a story is trying to illustrate a larger point or provide some larger reason for you to watch it - for Verbatim, he likes to walk away from a story with some takeaway he can apply to his life, to feel like his time wasn’t wasted.

I can understand that, but really, do you need a theme or lesson to have something to apply to your life? What about a “I relate to this character and the things they went through in this story remind me of things I’ve gone through in my own life”? What about “their arc and how they changed, and how they resolved the crisis they were in has given me new insight on how to combat my similar life situation”? I’m mainly speaking to Verbatim in this paragraph, because for most people, merely the promise of watching an incredible, high-quality show is its own reward. What I’m saying is that you don’t need a theme, or to be taught a lesson, to take something away from a show or film. The characters themselves can be what you take away.

Verbatim compared shows to a sandwich - the tomato being the themes/lessons, and the bread being the vehicle - the plot and characters - on which those lessons are served. Baccano, as I said, is unlike any show I’ve ever seen, and I think an exception can be made. Baccano is like an entree of tastiest potato chips you’ve ever tasted. Not some Lays bullshit - the genuine article, made by some renowned Southern cook and served to you in a fancy restaurant. Are they a sandwich, are they good for you? Not really.  They’re still deep fried and covered in salt and seasonings and all that. They have no health food content (i.e. themes, lessons, deeper meaning), but goddamn they are delicious. Goddamn you will reach for one after the other, and they’ll be gone as fast as you can consume them. And while they didn’t do anything for you on a health food level, goddamn you’ll remember that dining experience, eating those chips, for a long, LONG time.

Baccano takes its characters and narrative very seriously, and everything is very consistent. But it also doesn’t pander to you pretending to be something it’s not. It’s definitely not an Evangelion or something like The Shining. If I had to reach and guess the overall themes of the show, they would be “morality, togetherness, and family”. The show goes out of its way to reward the characters who try to do the right thing, make the morally neutral ones reconsider their lives, and punish the outright monsters. There’s a sense of camaraderie in each episode, working together to defeat this darkness that looms over everything. And in the end of the show, there’s yes, a sense of familial love that these non-related characters have developed toward each other.

You will love the characters, that’s for sure. You’re connected with them and want to see them triumph over their foes almost immediately. Even the “villains” are endearing and charming (except for literally two who are meant to be Hate Sinks). Anyway, this isn’t really a show that even has themes, and the three I listed above are almost more like plot fixtures than themes. It’s not a pretentious show, even if it might seem that way initially. Just give it a chance and you’ll enjoy it - I promise, on the honor of Winona.  ;)
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Don’t you ever find it a bit rude that no matter what kind of content I post, whether it’s something silly like this, or something of a much higher quality like this thread, your response is identical?

Why should I even bother with an attempt at good-faith, quality threads? Why should I even give you that effort? If the response is the same regardless, then I have no reason to even forgo my fun (for me) dumb threads and attempt to make something of my posts.

You’re being a Chuck to my Jimmy, insisting that I’ll never be able to be a quality poster because of my past and, ironically, making sure that very thing happens.

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seems pretty interesting, i do enjoy drama

the art style is kinda... uhh not my thing imo, but thats just because im so used to smooth, cutesy art. not sure if that makes sense


 
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seems pretty interesting, i do enjoy drama

the art style is kinda... uhh not my thing imo, but thats just because im so used to smooth, cutesy art. not sure if that makes sense
It’s definitely no Totally Spies, but it can be super wholesome and heartwarming at times. It definitely has some violence and grittiness, but not just for the sake of it.

I enjoy the art style personally, it sells the dark world it takes place in, and makes those wholesome moments more wholesome in comparison, and make the rays of light shine so much brighter.

The tone is darkly comedic throughout, though. Even the dramatic moments are usually undercut with some form of levity. It’s never like you’re watching The Godfather or anything.


 
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Oh, I forgot to mention: watch the English dub for sure. Even anime purists agree that the English dub is far better than the Japanese one. The entire show takes place in America, and the dub gets the accents and such down to a point.


 
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You know, I enjoyed Baccano before you made this thread.


 
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i just wanna know why 95% of mafia anime turn in to weird supernatural thrillers or some shit half way through them


 
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You know, I enjoyed Baccano before you made this thread.
Awesome! Glad to hear you were a fan before today.

I just like doing write-ups of shows I enjoy, forgive me.


 
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i just wanna know why 95% of mafia anime turn in to weird supernatural thrillers or some shit half way through them
This is one of the only animes I’ve seen; I didn’t know that was a trope.

In the case of Baccano, though, it’s essential. The show is about immortals - it just happens to take place in 1930s America when mafia families were at their height.