Quote from: Verbatim on March 25, 2016, 05:40:16 PMQuote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 05:38:20 PMbecause that's what happens in the movie. for no good reason. i always thought it was stupid, too. the reeves movies suck and i don't like them, fyiwell yeah, but i don't think it matters if we like it or not--it's what happened, and it was canon at one point, soif we're to go by what you just said earlier, it seems fair game that superman would be able to turn back timeWhat? The Reeves movies were never canon.It had to be the official, regonised main-line canon of the DCU at one point to be considered "canon" in debates like this. DC's idea of canon is really fucked up.
Quote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 05:38:20 PMbecause that's what happens in the movie. for no good reason. i always thought it was stupid, too. the reeves movies suck and i don't like them, fyiwell yeah, but i don't think it matters if we like it or not--it's what happened, and it was canon at one point, soif we're to go by what you just said earlier, it seems fair game that superman would be able to turn back time
because that's what happens in the movie. for no good reason. i always thought it was stupid, too. the reeves movies suck and i don't like them, fyi
What? The Reeves movies were never canon.It had to be the official, regonised main-line canon of the DCU at one point to be considered "canon" in debates like this. DC's idea of canon is really fucked up.
its canon within its own universe. you're setting arbitrary rules about what can be considered canon for debates; instead, debate should be centered around specific versions of characters and bound to the rules of the universes they belong to. this is basic etiquette for behavior within comic circles.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 25, 2016, 05:40:24 PMthats because youre completely oblivious to how fucking stupid you areOr you're incapable of supporting statements like "Batman is much smarter than Clark."Like, he may be a bit smarter than Clark, which is even then, still arguable... but "much" smarter? Lol, no.
thats because youre completely oblivious to how fucking stupid you are
Quote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 05:42:02 PMWhat? The Reeves movies were never canon.It had to be the official, regonised main-line canon of the DCU at one point to be considered "canon" in debates like this. DC's idea of canon is really fucked up.is there a compendium for this sort of thing, or what
is there a compendium for this sort of thing, or what
also i'm kinda surprised you didn't like the christopher reeve films--they were campy, but i think they had a charm to themand reeve himself was just the perfect superman
Quote from: Verbatim on March 25, 2016, 05:44:56 PMis there a compendium for this sort of thing, or whatNot one that I've found. Even now, I don't have a great understanding of it all. Basically, there were a bunch of Earths with different labels (Earth 1, Earth 2, etc.) in different universes called the "Multiverse", and each earth had a different version of each character. After a few story arcs, the number was reduced to one earth, and then after awhile, they went back to a multiverse, and then back to one earth. Over and over again for a few decades. What ever was considered the "main line" earth is usually fair game to use as evidence, unless otherwise agreed upon before the discussion. I'm not really quite sure what Azumarill is talking about, but he's likely biased because he can then utilise an else-world, never-canon story like TDKR as justification for his ridiculous claim of "Batman>Superman in a fight."
bruce wayne, in just about every incarnation i can think of, devoted his life to becoming a polymath. he is consistently mentioned as being one of the smartest people alive in DC continuities. clark has a high IQ but he didnt devote himself to learning the way bruce did.
Since when is Gotham right across from Metropolis?
Since when is Gotham right across from Metropolis?How come Zod can't regenerate from a broken neck. But Superman can regenerate from being exposed to Kryptonite and impaled right through the chest?
actually, they've officially included their entire comic history in the meta-canon. now, how that applies to movies and tv shows, im sure you could have spirited discussions all over the comic forum community about that, but if it was a comic its in the meta canon.
They were boring and are really dated. I also don't really like the boyscout, somewhat scrawny spandex suit Superman that Reeves was. Cavill is a much better visual representation of what I like about Superman.
How, if he wanted, would Clark not be inherently smarter than Bruce?
why does everyone call him Reeveshis name was Christopher Reevei used to call him Reeves, too, though--what the fuck is with that
Quote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 05:54:47 PM How, if he wanted, would Clark not be inherently smarter than Bruce?i swear its like talking to a fucking wall. he could be smarter than bruce. he just isnt in most incarnations, just due to the way their lives go. my fucking god.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 25, 2016, 05:59:16 PMQuote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 05:54:47 PM How, if he wanted, would Clark not be inherently smarter than Bruce?i swear its like talking to a fucking wall. he could be smarter than bruce. he just isnt in most incarnations, just due to the way their lives go. my fucking god.Read my edit. I'm a little distracted at the moment.Clark is inherently smarter than Bruce.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 25, 2016, 05:59:16 PMyou're needlessly hostile and it gives comic book fans a bad rep. stop.
he has a higher intelligence quotient, a higher capacity for learning. bruce is functionally smarter because he is more driven and devotes his life to being one of the smartest men alive, because he has to be.
no, you just need to become receptive to what im telling you.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 25, 2016, 06:02:03 PMhe has a higher intelligence quotient, a higher capacity for learning. bruce is functionally smarter because he is more driven and devotes his life to being one of the smartest men alive, because he has to be.Obviously Bruce knows more. Intelligence > knowledge
the fuck are you even going on about?
Quote from: Azumarill on March 25, 2016, 06:06:44 PMthe fuck are you even going on about?How do you define "smart"?Because you keep saying "Clark has higher intelligence, but Batman knows more."Okay? But that doesn't make Bruce smarter...
Oh my god. Semantics.
Quote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 06:13:18 PMOh my god. Semantics.im honestly baffled that you werent able to clue in on the context for that long.
and all you said was "Bruce is smarter than Clark", which is arguable at best.
Quote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 05:42:02 PMWhat? The Reeves movies were never canon.It had to be the official, regonised main-line canon of the DCU at one point to be considered "canon" in debates like this. DC's idea of canon is really fucked up.is there a compendium for this sort of thing, or whatalso i'm kinda surprised you didn't like the christopher reeve films--they were campy, but i think they had a charm to themand reeve himself was just the perfect superman
Quote from: Eli on March 25, 2016, 06:16:43 PMand all you said was "Bruce is smarter than Clark", which is arguable at best.o rly ?pretty sure my point was made abundantly clear well before i had to spell it out in capsQuotebruce wayne, in just about every incarnation i can think of, devoted his life to becoming a polymath. he is consistently mentioned as being one of the smartest people alive in DC continuities. clark has a high IQ but he didnt devote himself to learning the way bruce did.
Spoiler Batman vs Superman was fucking horrific.
