You have no place in Civilian hands because you're dumb.

That doesn't make any sense.

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 10:21:52 PM

The standard for being "BTFOd" sure has dropped. I don't care how much experience you have with guns, fully automatic assault rifles simply have no place in a civilian's hands. End of story.

That's literally as pointless as saying, handguns, shotguns, rifles, bows, knives, automobiles, bats, tire irons and countless other objects have no place in civilian hands. The point is, we have every right to have them in our hands so long as we are responsible.

Handguns, shotguns, and rifles are nowhere near the same level as assault rifles. I know you're not this dumb.

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 11:11:35 PM

Quote from: Camnator on January 15, 2015, 11:09:12 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 10:21:52 PM

The standard for being "BTFOd" sure has dropped. I don't care how much experience you have with guns, fully automatic assault rifles simply have no place in a civilian's hands. End of story.

That's literally as pointless as saying, handguns, shotguns, rifles, bows, knives, automobiles, bats, tire irons and countless other objects have no place in civilian hands. The point is, we have every right to have them in our hands so long as we are responsible.

Handguns, shotguns, and rifles are nowhere near the same level as assault rifles. I know you're not this dumb.

Fucking LOL

Please, Class, stop saying Assault Rifle at least, Okay?

Give me a rooftop and my grandfather's .44 bolt action Remington and I can do more damage than an assailant with an AR15 in an open plaza before we're brought down.

Well, you're trained. Automatic rifles take out the skill requirement. Any schlub can pick up an assault rifle and kill dozens of people before he's brought down. It takes a skilled marksman to do as much damage with a semi-automatic or manual rifle.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 15, 2015, 11:16:23 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 11:11:35 PM

Quote from: Camnator on January 15, 2015, 11:09:12 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 10:21:52 PM

The standard for being "BTFOd" sure has dropped. I don't care how much experience you have with guns, fully automatic assault rifles simply have no place in a civilian's hands. End of story.

That's literally as pointless as saying, handguns, shotguns, rifles, bows, knives, automobiles, bats, tire irons and countless other objects have no place in civilian hands. The point is, we have every right to have them in our hands so long as we are responsible.

Handguns, shotguns, and rifles are nowhere near the same level as assault rifles. I know you're not this dumb.

Fucking LOL

Please, Class, stop saying Assault Rifle at least, Okay?

Give me a rooftop and my grandfather's .44 bolt action Remington and I can do more damage than an assailant with an AR15 in an open plaza before we're brought down.

Well, you're trained. Automatic rifles take out the skill requirement. Any schlub can pick up an assault rifle and kill dozens of people before he's brought down. It takes a skilled marksman to do as much damage with a semi-automatic or manual rifle.

I've never shot a gun before but I'm pretty sure not just anyone would be able to handle a fully-automatic gun easily.

I can't believe people on this forum want to live in a society where anyone can buy and wield military-grade weaponry. Fucking ridiculous and selfish.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 15, 2015, 11:16:23 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 11:11:35 PM

Quote from: Camnator on January 15, 2015, 11:09:12 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 10:21:52 PM

The standard for being "BTFOd" sure has dropped. I don't care how much experience you have with guns, fully automatic assault rifles simply have no place in a civilian's hands. End of story.

That's literally as pointless as saying, handguns, shotguns, rifles, bows, knives, automobiles, bats, tire irons and countless other objects have no place in civilian hands. The point is, we have every right to have them in our hands so long as we are responsible.

Handguns, shotguns, and rifles are nowhere near the same level as assault rifles. I know you're not this dumb.

Fucking LOL

Please, Class, stop saying Assault Rifle at least, Okay?

Give me a rooftop and my grandfather's .44 bolt action Remington and I can do more damage than an assailant with an AR15 in an open plaza before we're brought down.

Well, you're trained. Automatic rifles take out the skill requirement. Any schlub can pick up an assault rifle and kill dozens of people before he's brought down. It takes a skilled marksman to do as much damage with a semi-automatic or manual rifle.

I'm not trying to sound naturally inclined or anything... it took me forever to understand the M16's ironsights, after all, but, it's easier than you'd think.
I mean, the only difference between that .44 if I had a larger mag and my M16 is that I'd have to manually cycle the bolt each shot, but that's not much different time-wise than waiting between breaths for your shots.


Granted, I think I get your point. Me with the same weapons in the right place = a lot more casualties than fucking Elliot Rodgers, but I actually think the general misconceptions about fully automatic firearms  would save more lives than not allowing them at all does.

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 15, 2015, 11:24:22 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 11:22:49 PM

I can't believe people on this forum want to live in a society where anyone can buy and wield military-grade weaponry. Fucking ridiculous and selfish.

Nah, it's just that we don't think giving a person a fully automatic firearm turns them into Rambo.

Just because you want to be a big man and buy bigger guns doesn't give you the right to put our society at risk.

I haven't even bought any guns, you shitlord.

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 15, 2015, 11:14:31 PM

glockazines.

I like this.

I love it.

lol
I fucking live MattV's shit.

My name is MattV and I shoot glocks and glock accessories.

...Well, yeah. A gun that can fire half a dozen bullets in one second is probably more likely to kill somebody than a gun that fires just one bullet per trigger-squeeze.

True but it depends on the semiautomatic. My AK which fires 7.62x39 rounds would most likely kill somebody if I shot them once in the chest than if I shot them in the chest with a 9mm or 22. With an automatic you are more likely to kill somebody faster but look at the cost. You have recoil and it burns through your ammo a lot faster. With semiautomatic you can pump out rounds at a slower pace and you conserve a lot more ammo. With automatic fire you can burn through your mag withing seconds. Like I said the semiautomatic gun with a 75 round drum is going to be more of a danger than the automatic AK with a 30round mag. If anything the 75round drum should be banned or made harder to get than the AK with the automatic firing mode.

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on January 15, 2015, 11:16:23 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 11:11:35 PM

Quote from: Camnator on January 15, 2015, 11:09:12 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on January 15, 2015, 10:21:52 PM

The standard for being "BTFOd" sure has dropped. I don't care how much experience you have with guns, fully automatic assault rifles simply have no place in a civilian's hands. End of story.

That's literally as pointless as saying, handguns, shotguns, rifles, bows, knives, automobiles, bats, tire irons and countless other objects have no place in civilian hands. The point is, we have every right to have them in our hands so long as we are responsible.

Handguns, shotguns, and rifles are nowhere near the same level as assault rifles. I know you're not this dumb.

Fucking LOL

Please, Class, stop saying Assault Rifle at least, Okay?

Give me a rooftop and my grandfather's .44 bolt action Remington and I can do more damage than an assailant with an AR15 in an open plaza before we're brought down.

Well, you're trained. Automatic rifles take out the skill requirement. Any schlub can pick up an assault rifle and kill dozens of people before he's brought down. It takes a skilled marksman to do as much damage with a semi-automatic or manual rifle.

Unless your decently built you're probably not going to be able to handle the recoil. At most you're going to fire a few rounds before you let go of the trigger due to recoil. And for the gunning down dozens of people thing. No you're not unless you have a very large round source. Watch this video. He's using a 75 round drum and look at how fast he burned through it. With a 30 round mag you're going to burn through that in about 2 seconds. With the 75 round drum he burned though that in around 5. Also you can tell this guy lifts unlike your average person. So no. Unless you have a weapon that has like 100 plus rounds to it with a slower rate of fire you're not going to gun down dozens of people.

The reason the M16A4 only goes up to 3-round burst is because full-auto is so ineffective. You can suppress people with a mounted machine gun or something similar but some jarhead with a total of three seconds of full-auto fire per magazine isn't gonna do shit.