Are automatic weapons all that dangerous?

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Just because it has the feature to pump out lead with the trigger pressed doesn't mean you're going to be killing more people. It just means you're wasting more ammo. If anything the auto fire is to simple put suppressive fire on a target in the hopes you get him or to prevent him form firing back. Most of the time I think the soldiers would be using a burst fire.  Look at an uzi. The fire rate on that thing is so damn high that you would be lucky if you gunned down 3 people on automatic. With semi fire you would be able to gun down more people because you're using a firing mode that is firing one round at a time.

It's the same thing with AKM's or AR-15's. If you have a 30 round mag and you're firing on automatic you're wasting a lot of ammo into one person. You're going to burn through that faster than if you're firing on semi automatic. An automatic AK with the firing mode is going to be hardly any more dangerous than the current semi automatic ones. If anything a semi automatic AK with a 75 round drum is going to be more dangerous than an automatic one with a 30 round mag. If anything is more dangerous it's the ability to carry that many rounds in a single thing. To me mag sizes would be more of a danger than if automatic AK's and AR-15's with the firing mode are replacing the current semiautomatic only ones.


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My guess is that automatic weapons increase the likelihood of a casualty in comparison to a semi-automatic. However, throw in multiple people, and the scenario becomes a lot more tricky to evaluate without details


 
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They have the capacity to kill more people in less time than a semi-automatic.


 
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You can inflict more casualties in the technical sense spraying into a crowd with a full auto in a small amount of time, but keep in mind that casualty =/= death.

Honestly, full auto has no purpose in a handheald weapon aside from suppressive fire, and that's supposed to keep the enemy down so your guys can move.

In a typical mall, I could inflict more casualties and more death with a semi-auto AR than one capable of and set to full retard.


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Any weapon can be very dangerous dependent on the user. That doesn't mean you go around banning bats, knives, automobiles and nearly every other object in existence just because some people happen to be irresponsible.
Can you kill thirty people in sixty seconds with a baseball bat or a knife? I'm all for protected ownership of a concealed handgun, but there's no reason whatsoever that an ordinary citizen would need a fully automatic assault rifle.


 
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Can you kill thirty people in sixty seconds with  a knife?
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Any weapon can be very dangerous dependent on the user. That doesn't mean you go around banning bats, knives, automobiles and nearly every other object in existence just because some people happen to be irresponsible.
Can you kill thirty people in sixty seconds with a baseball bat or a knife? I'm all for protected ownership of a concealed handgun, but there's no reason whatsoever that an ordinary citizen would need a fully automatic assault rifle.

I could kill a lot of people with a bat and knife, yes. Hell, I can take out more than that with a solid vehicle or explosive. There's no reason why an ordinary citizen needs a house or most things they own, but it makes life more pleasant. Some happen to enjoy owning these types of weapons. Not only for protection, but simply recreation. Not to mention, it has its uses in the real world over other types of weapons.
Are you kidding me? An ordinary citizen needs a house as shelter. We need video games for fun, phones for communication, etc. The only point of a gun that large is to kill a lot of people in a small amount of time. And please. You couldn't kill a quarter of the people in sixty seconds with a knife that you could with a machine gun. I thought we were having a serious discussion.


 
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The only point of a gun that large is to kill a lot of people in a small amount of time.
>we need vidya for fun but you can't kill paper or beer cans for entertainment
>hunting isn't a thing
>target shooting isn't fun
>sporting clays isn't an age old pastime

Class pls, I thought you were better than Max.


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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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The only point of a gun that large is to kill a lot of people in a small amount of time.
>we need vidya for fun but you can't kill paper or beer cans for entertainment
>hunting isn't a thing
>target shooting isn't fun
>sporting clays isn't an age old pastime

Class pls, I thought you were better than Max.


If you really need a gun like this for shooting beer cans, deer, or any other target, you need to rethink your life.


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Eh.

Automatic fire is more for suppressing an enemy than actually killing them. If you can keep the enemies head down you can get a team out to flank them and neutralize them. That's one of the big reasons why a SAW gunner is in every rifle squad. They put enough volume of fire downrange to let the other guys get into a position to kill the bad guys.

Even when you move onto Machineguns like the M240, M60, etc... It's mostly down to suppressing the enemy rather than killing them.



I see no civilian practical purpose for Full retard other than it being fun and awesome. I'd never own a full retard gun because I'd never afford the ammo. Though of the Hughes amendment was repealed and NFA took a nose dive and all new rifles were select fire, I guess I'd have one.

I'd much rather be pumping rounds downrange in semi-automatic. I care more about shot placement over volume of fire.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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The only point of a gun that large is to kill a lot of people in a small amount of time.
>we need vidya for fun but you can't kill paper or beer cans for entertainment
>hunting isn't a thing
>target shooting isn't fun
>sporting clays isn't an age old pastime

Class pls, I thought you were better than Max.


If you really need a gun like this for shooting beer cans, deer, or any other target, you need to rethink your life.

Is there something wrong with enjoying the opportunity, though? Should someone be prevented from doing what they want?
Yes. If anyone could just buy a machine gun, the majority of purchases wouldn't be for shooting fucking beer cans, it would be for shooting humans.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
The only point of a gun that large is to kill a lot of people in a small amount of time.
>we need vidya for fun but you can't kill paper or beer cans for entertainment
>hunting isn't a thing
>target shooting isn't fun
>sporting clays isn't an age old pastime

Class pls, I thought you were better than Max.


If you really need a gun like this for shooting beer cans, deer, or any other target, you need to rethink your life.
>not wanting a glorious Stoner master LMG to enshrine and go dakadakadaka at the ranges with.

It's really no different than people owning 200+hp cars. You don't need to go 0 to 60 in four seconds flat, and you may lose control and kill someone doing it.


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...Well, yeah. A gun that can fire half a dozen bullets in one second is probably more likely to kill somebody than a gun that fires just one bullet per trigger-squeeze.


 
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Eh.

Automatic fire is more for suppressing an enemy than actually killing them. If you can keep the enemies head down you can get a team out to flank them and neutralize them. That's one of the big reasons why a SAW gunner is in every rifle squad. They put enough volume of fire downrange to let the other guys get into a position to kill the bad guys.

Even when you move onto Machineguns like the M240, M60, etc... It's mostly down to suppressing the enemy rather than killing them.



I see no civilian practical purpose for Full retard other than it being fun and awesome. I'd never own a full retard gun because I'd never afford the ammo. Though of the Hughes amendment was repealed and NFA took a nose dive and all new rifles were select fire, I guess I'd have one.

I'd much rather be pumping rounds downrange in semi-automatic. I care more about shot placement over volume of fire.
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
The only point of a gun that large is to kill a lot of people in a small amount of time.
>we need vidya for fun but you can't kill paper or beer cans for entertainment
>hunting isn't a thing
>target shooting isn't fun
>sporting clays isn't an age old pastime

Class pls, I thought you were better than Max.


If you really need a gun like this for shooting beer cans, deer, or any other target, you need to rethink your life.
>not wanting a glorious Stoner master LMG to enshrine and go dakadakadaka at the ranges with.

It's really no different than people owning 200+hp cars. You don't need to go 0 to 60 in four seconds flat, and you may lose control and kill someone doing it.
But fast cars aren't made to do damage, they're made to go fast. Machine guns are actually designed for the purpose of killing people efficiently and quickly.


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...Well, yeah. A gun that can fire half a dozen bullets in one second is probably more likely to kill somebody than a gun that fires just one bullet per trigger-squeeze.

Debatable.

It's down to cartridge, recoil, weight of the firearm, and shooter ability.

There is a reason why they call it "Full Retard."


 
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Machine guns are actually designed for the purpose of killing people efficiently and quickly.
LOL fucking no.
It's designed to put a shitload of rounds downrange to make the enemy stay in cover so that your men can move forward and then kill the enemy with their semi-auto AR's.


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It's designed to put a shitload of rounds downrange to make the enemy stay in cover so that your men can move forward and then kill the enemy with their semi-auto AR's.
Man, now I'm convinced that it's logical to sell them to ordinary civilians.


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Any weapon can be very dangerous dependent on the user. That doesn't mean you go around banning bats, knives, automobiles and nearly every other object in existence just because some people happen to be irresponsible.
Can you kill thirty people in sixty seconds with a baseball bat or a knife?
depends what perks you're using


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
It's designed to put a shitload of rounds downrange to make the enemy stay in cover so that your men can move forward and then kill the enemy with their semi-auto AR's.
Man, now I'm convinced that it's logical to sell them to ordinary civilians.
Brotip: your typical sandy hook dude is gonna do more damage with a semi-auto weapon than a full auto any day.


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It's designed to put a shitload of rounds downrange to make the enemy stay in cover so that your men can move forward and then kill the enemy with their semi-auto AR's.
Man, now I'm convinced that it's logical to sell them to ordinary civilians.

Who cares what you think. You ain't the boss of us.