I've argued before on here about why no one should ever bother buying an Apple product that isn't a tablet, phone, or small media player of some variety (and even then I always argued they are not the best at these types either), and there have been some that always gave comments against what I've been preaching. Comments such as "Non-Apple notebooks don't have what I need" or that "PCs don't offer that much more of an improvement for what I'm doing." however if at any point you find yourself doing more than just writing essays/papers on a computer, indeed a PC objectively WILL perform better in every regard and at a much lower price point too.

This video goes on to explain more problems with Apple as of late. For those too lazy to watch, the point is that Apple refuses to add more than 16GB of RAM to their new Notebook series, stating that it would draw too much power and that the audience they're advertising for "Doesn't need any more". Some takeaway points from this video is:

-If you are doing anything that would require 16GB of RAM (Video editing, image manipulating, etc.), than having more would only be a benefit to the consumer as it allows them to tackle bigger projects for the same price.
-Every test on other notebooks which allows for switching out different RAMs showed the difference in power usage is insignificant to non-existent.

The biggest issue in the third point which I drew out from the other two because of how major it is and shows how bad of a company Apple is.

-Apple literally GLUES their battery and hardware onto the Notebook board, preventing replacement hardware for a failing Notebook.

The tester in this video along with colleagues developed a few theories as to why this was the case, but the last theory is the only logical choice, to force obsolescence and require consumers to purchase a new notebook when their current one fails in any regard. This is hardly news coming from Apple, not being able to get the new OS on an older product has always been an issue that has stuck with them, only now it's going to both software side AND hardware side. Even with the vehement responses against MS with Windows 10, you could always swap out your older OS on an older computer for the new one provided its hardware could handle it, which the previous generation almost always could (Vista was an issue where people were trying to install on computers that were released back in the W95 days).

This entire problem Apple has created all of course boils down to another issue altogether: Who the fuck doesn't take their charger with them just in case?

TL;DR: Apple limits their hardware and intentionally manipulates it so that consumers are left with an overpriced limited computer that requires them to buy a brand new one as soon as it fails.

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I like that apple separates idiots from their cash, buying their crap is punishment in and of itself.

As videos, images, and audio files get more intricate, the need for bigger and bigger RAM will inevitable increase, and there are a good number of people who choose to do video editing on an Apple. Even if 16GB isn't needed now, when it ultimately is needed we go back to Apple's #1 issue: forcing obsolescence. In the situation of a PC, all you gotta do is turn off your computer, open it up, swap the RAM, and you're good to go. Apple unfortunately doesn't work that way, you are forced to buy a brand new (probably $500-$1500 price range) computer to get a hardware upgrade that maybe might cost $200 at most.

They have a point with the RAM though. Even most PC users -- including gamers -- don't ever need more than 8GB let alone 16GB (most do simply to future-proof and because RAM is dirt cheap). And nobody is gonna try to run AutoCAD on a fucking Apple notebook.

As videos, images, and audio files get more intricate, the need for bigger and bigger RAM will inevitable increase, and there are a good number of people who choose to do video editing on an Apple. Even if 16GB isn't needed now, when it ultimately is needed we go back to Apple's #1 issue: forcing obsolescence. In the situation of a PC, all you gotta do is turn off your computer, open it up, swap the RAM, and you're good to go. Apple unfortunately doesn't work that way, you are forced to buy a brand new (probably $500-$1500 price range) computer to get a hardware upgrade that maybe might cost $200 at most.

Quote from: TurkTurkBangBang on November 17, 2016, 06:54:05 PM

They have a point with the RAM though. Even most PC users -- including gamers -- don't ever need more than 8GB let alone 16GB (most do simply to future-proof and because RAM is dirt cheap). And nobody is gonna try to run AutoCAD on a fucking Apple notebook.

For video processing, GPU + CPU are far more important, and notebooks fail to deliver in general, not just from Apple. Someone that needs to work with video or 3D modeling has no business doing so on an Apple notebook nor a Windows Surface. Like I said, >16GB for typical users (to whom Apple is advertising) is completely unnecessary. Obviously a built PC is a better option for home computing, and I would never buy an Apple laptop for professional or personal use, but that argument can't be hinged on the lack of 32GB of RAM on .14" thick Macbook -- it's predicated on babbys first OS, absurd price, and lack of (other) specs.