Quote from: Vien on May 25, 2016, 11:28:18 PMYeah, I took codeine for chest pain when I had pneumonia.I was sedated from a regular dose, and had an allergic reaction. Worst experience.that sucksso medically, not recreationally
Yeah, I took codeine for chest pain when I had pneumonia.I was sedated from a regular dose, and had an allergic reaction. Worst experience.
Quote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:34:01 PMQuote from: Vien on May 25, 2016, 11:28:18 PMYeah, I took codeine for chest pain when I had pneumonia.I was sedated from a regular dose, and had an allergic reaction. Worst experience.that sucksso medically, not recreationallyI tried marijuana tea in Jamaica, where it was legal. Otherwise, the only drug I have is coffee.
yeah and I'm a bad person,
i'm starting to think that drug abuse makes you more selfish in general
Quote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.
Quote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other way
Quote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.
Quote from: Vien on May 25, 2016, 11:35:21 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:34:01 PMQuote from: Vien on May 25, 2016, 11:28:18 PMYeah, I took codeine for chest pain when I had pneumonia.I was sedated from a regular dose, and had an allergic reaction. Worst experience.that sucksso medically, not recreationallyI tried marijuana tea in Jamaica, where it was legal. Otherwise, the only drug I have is coffee.and alcohol
Quote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:42:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.whatI agreed with youyou make choices that make you a certain kind of person, you cant be born good or badall of my choices have been made out of apathy
Quote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:42:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.whatI agreed with youyou make choices that make you a certain kind of person, you cant be born good or badall of my choices have been made out of apathy Ahh with that wording it looked like you meant, "as if there is any other way than being bad."So if you're really saying is that you realize it's your own fault that you're a bad person, then why aren't you making a conscious effort to be a better one?
Quote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:42:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.whatI agreed with youyou make choices that make you a certain kind of person, you cant be born good or badall of my choices have been made out of apathy Ahh with that wording it looked like you meant, "as if there is any other way than being bad."So if you're really saying is that you realize it's your own fault that you're a bad person, then why aren't you making a conscious effort to be a better one?why should Inot like it changes anythingthere's no point at all
Quote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:51:02 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:42:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.whatI agreed with youyou make choices that make you a certain kind of person, you cant be born good or badall of my choices have been made out of apathy Ahh with that wording it looked like you meant, "as if there is any other way than being bad."So if you're really saying is that you realize it's your own fault that you're a bad person, then why aren't you making a conscious effort to be a better one?why should Inot like it changes anythingthere's no point at allIf it changes nothing for you then you've yet to understand the potential you have to influence the world around you. Truly, if that is what you believe then you are still very ignorant in that regard.You are a part of this world, a world that is entirely and absolutely interdependent. Every single action you make will effect it and those around you in some way.
Only while in hospital, I got put on a ton of morphine and some other strong painkillers that somehow didn't help while I was having the worst pain of my life
I change the world, so what? Nothing's gonna change my world.
Quote from: SecondClass on May 26, 2016, 12:03:23 AMI change the world, so what? Nothing's gonna change my world.so what
Quote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:59:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:51:02 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:42:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.whatI agreed with youyou make choices that make you a certain kind of person, you cant be born good or badall of my choices have been made out of apathy Ahh with that wording it looked like you meant, "as if there is any other way than being bad."So if you're really saying is that you realize it's your own fault that you're a bad person, then why aren't you making a conscious effort to be a better one?why should Inot like it changes anythingthere's no point at allIf it changes nothing for you then you've yet to understand the potential you have to influence the world around you. Truly, if that is what you believe then you are still very ignorant in that regard.You are a part of this world, a world that is entirely and absolutely interdependent. Every single action you make will effect it and those around you in some way.yeah no shit I'm ignorant, I'm pretty much the worstand yeah, even if I could influence the world, there's still no point. I change the world, so what? Nothing's gonna change my world.
Quote from: SecondClass on May 26, 2016, 12:03:23 AMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:59:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:51:02 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:42:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.whatI agreed with youyou make choices that make you a certain kind of person, you cant be born good or badall of my choices have been made out of apathy Ahh with that wording it looked like you meant, "as if there is any other way than being bad."So if you're really saying is that you realize it's your own fault that you're a bad person, then why aren't you making a conscious effort to be a better one?why should Inot like it changes anythingthere's no point at allIf it changes nothing for you then you've yet to understand the potential you have to influence the world around you. Truly, if that is what you believe then you are still very ignorant in that regard.You are a part of this world, a world that is entirely and absolutely interdependent. Every single action you make will effect it and those around you in some way.yeah no shit I'm ignorant, I'm pretty much the worstand yeah, even if I could influence the world, there's still no point. I change the world, so what? Nothing's gonna change my world.Your world is the result of your perception of reality. If you come to understand that the only inherent nature you truly have is just simply 'being' then you come to realize how utterly foolish it is to abide by the thinking that life is a static unchanging state.All phenomena are impermanent. Everything is constantly changing. Action and reaction proceed ever onward into eternity. Your life, your mindset, none of that is exempt from this process. You can carry notions to the grave to have them dissolve away in death (although, some believe them to even carry over into another life) or you can dissolve them now through conscious effort, practicing mindfulness, and understanding that, ultimately, these notions are meaningless.Go ahead and hold on tightly to those meaningless subjective notions you have of your life and reality, let's see where they get you. Not any further away from suffering, I'm sure. Maybe a little bit of temporary pleasure here and there, but no closer to peace.
The only time I've been on an opioid was when I had surgery. They gave me Morphine and I did not respond well. Instead of getting relaxed it made me incredibly stressed and tensed upApparently that's not normal, but I still was excited for surgery
Quote from: BC on May 25, 2016, 11:35:42 PMThe only time I've been on an opioid was when I had surgery. They gave me Morphine and I did not respond well. Instead of getting relaxed it made me incredibly stressed and tensed upApparently that's not normal, but I still was excited for surgery my most recent surgery my jaw was wired shut and I had a reaction to the anesthesia which made me vomit blood I was basically drowning in my own blood and vomit in a hospital room that shit was scary as fuck luckily a nurse came in and saw and ran and got wire cutters
Quote from: Tyger on May 26, 2016, 12:29:54 AMQuote from: BC on May 25, 2016, 11:35:42 PMThe only time I've been on an opioid was when I had surgery. They gave me Morphine and I did not respond well. Instead of getting relaxed it made me incredibly stressed and tensed upApparently that's not normal, but I still was excited for surgery my most recent surgery my jaw was wired shut and I had a reaction to the anesthesia which made me vomit blood I was basically drowning in my own blood and vomit in a hospital room that shit was scary as fuck luckily a nurse came in and saw and ran and got wire cuttersHorror movie level shit
Quote from: Aether on May 26, 2016, 12:20:47 AMQuote from: SecondClass on May 26, 2016, 12:03:23 AMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:59:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:51:02 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:42:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.whatI agreed with youyou make choices that make you a certain kind of person, you cant be born good or badall of my choices have been made out of apathy Ahh with that wording it looked like you meant, "as if there is any other way than being bad."So if you're really saying is that you realize it's your own fault that you're a bad person, then why aren't you making a conscious effort to be a better one?why should Inot like it changes anythingthere's no point at allIf it changes nothing for you then you've yet to understand the potential you have to influence the world around you. Truly, if that is what you believe then you are still very ignorant in that regard.You are a part of this world, a world that is entirely and absolutely interdependent. Every single action you make will effect it and those around you in some way.yeah no shit I'm ignorant, I'm pretty much the worstand yeah, even if I could influence the world, there's still no point. I change the world, so what? Nothing's gonna change my world.Your world is the result of your perception of reality. If you come to understand that the only inherent nature you truly have is just simply 'being' then you come to realize how utterly foolish it is to abide by the thinking that life is a static unchanging state.All phenomena are impermanent. Everything is constantly changing. Action and reaction proceed ever onward into eternity. Your life, your mindset, none of that is exempt from this process. You can carry notions to the grave to have them dissolve away in death (although, some believe them to even carry over into another life) or you can dissolve them now through conscious effort, practicing mindfulness, and understanding that, ultimately, these notions are meaningless.Go ahead and hold on tightly to those meaningless subjective notions you have of your life and reality, let's see where they get you. Not any further away from suffering, I'm sure. Maybe a little bit of temporary pleasure here and there, but no closer to peace.Not everyone is born the same way, and there's far more inherency than just "being". I don't need you to come here and tell me all I have to do is change my perspective, because there are far bigger problems I have than my outlook.
Quote from: SecondClass on May 26, 2016, 12:27:42 AMQuote from: Aether on May 26, 2016, 12:20:47 AMQuote from: SecondClass on May 26, 2016, 12:03:23 AMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:59:20 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:51:02 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:48:01 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:43:57 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:42:08 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:41:14 PMQuote from: Aether on May 25, 2016, 11:40:22 PMQuote from: SecondClass on May 25, 2016, 11:32:26 PMyeah and I'm a bad person,Only because you make yourself one.as if there's any other waySo you're saying your nature is inherent? Because that's completely illogical.whatI agreed with youyou make choices that make you a certain kind of person, you cant be born good or badall of my choices have been made out of apathy Ahh with that wording it looked like you meant, "as if there is any other way than being bad."So if you're really saying is that you realize it's your own fault that you're a bad person, then why aren't you making a conscious effort to be a better one?why should Inot like it changes anythingthere's no point at allIf it changes nothing for you then you've yet to understand the potential you have to influence the world around you. Truly, if that is what you believe then you are still very ignorant in that regard.You are a part of this world, a world that is entirely and absolutely interdependent. Every single action you make will effect it and those around you in some way.yeah no shit I'm ignorant, I'm pretty much the worstand yeah, even if I could influence the world, there's still no point. I change the world, so what? Nothing's gonna change my world.Your world is the result of your perception of reality. If you come to understand that the only inherent nature you truly have is just simply 'being' then you come to realize how utterly foolish it is to abide by the thinking that life is a static unchanging state.All phenomena are impermanent. Everything is constantly changing. Action and reaction proceed ever onward into eternity. Your life, your mindset, none of that is exempt from this process. You can carry notions to the grave to have them dissolve away in death (although, some believe them to even carry over into another life) or you can dissolve them now through conscious effort, practicing mindfulness, and understanding that, ultimately, these notions are meaningless.Go ahead and hold on tightly to those meaningless subjective notions you have of your life and reality, let's see where they get you. Not any further away from suffering, I'm sure. Maybe a little bit of temporary pleasure here and there, but no closer to peace.Not everyone is born the same way, and there's far more inherency than just "being". I don't need you to come here and tell me all I have to do is change my perspective, because there are far bigger problems I have than my outlook.No, not everyone is born exactly the same, however, your humanity is still the result of the interdependence of reality. It does not exist without some sort of conditioning. Your birth was a result of actions your parents took, and thus did your life manifest itself as a result of that. Your body, mind, ego, none of that is some essential inherent phenomena that exists outside of interdependence. Neither are the notions of your life that were conditioned as a result of your upbringing and what influenced you as you developed and matured.Changing your perspective doesn't magically and instantly change you as a person. To be so adamant in seeing from a certain perspective you have to gain a mastery of that perspective through repetition. Absolutely no one masters anything without practice. It's fairly obvious you've had a lot of practice seeing the world and your life through your seemingly dismal perspective, but that doesn't not mean, in anyway, shape, or from, that practicing seeing through a different perspective is impossible.Some things in life can't be reversed or ceased. Someone with down syndrome can't reverse their condition, someone who has lost a limb can't grow it back, we can't stop the sky from appearing as blue, or age from deteriorating our bodies. However, acknowledging that we don't have the power to change everything does not mean it isn't foolish to deny the power we have to change certain things.
And the things we have the power to change aren't always the things that are important to change. Just because someone else values something, doesn't mean everyone does. If you were born with some incurable, terrible condition, would you spend your life trying to change small shit that doesn't matter? Would you try to change your perspective, go get a better job or a diploma? No, because only changing the core problem, the problem that you can't change, will make a difference to you.It's not a matter of being resolute in my mindset, because if I wanted to, I could become a better person. Give to charities, never do drugs, be active and involved in more social spheres, start putting others before myself. But doing so would do nothing for me, it would bring me no peace or contentment. Doing that in and of itself would just be a distraction, and one that takes far more work than watching TV or smoking weed.