Anime fans, what is the appeal?

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Is it the art? The language? The concepts being put forward? I seriously cannot comprehend the fascination behind this art form.

I have given most of the so called revered series and movies a fair viewing and I cannot tolerate any of them for the life of me. The characterisation comes off as alien to me, and a lot of the dialogue choices are just bizarre. Maybe there's a translation disconnect between Japanese and English or maybe I'm just straight up missing something.

The only one I can find somewhat approachable is Akira, but apparently it's entry level pleb filter to most fans, or so I've heard.

What is it that you find so engaging?
Last Edit: May 26, 2020, 08:05:27 PM by Mordo


 
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the only ones i've been able to enjoy out of the 300 some odd that i've tried are the ones that are decidedly un-anime in their presentation, with the exception of something like neon genesis evangelion, which could be described as quintessential anime, but i still mainly enjoy it for its thematic elements, vaguely cinematic story structure, direction, tone, and pathos more so than i enjoy it for the things that make it anime—the show just has a lot of pseudo-pessimistic shit to say about the human condition (and sometimes not so pseudo) from a psychosociological perspective, and honestly, i'll eat that shit up wherever i find it

i couldn't tell you what makes it appealing from an anime perspective, because the most "anime" aspects of evangelion tend to be the very worst parts of it—and ultimately, i think that mostly just boils down to cultural friction

like, i'm always going to hate how women have been portrayed in anime—it's just viscerally repugnant to me

but at this point, i've just found that there are some shows with enough positive qualities going for them that transcend any hang-ups i might have towards the medium—because i actually prefer to enjoy things, believe it or not, and it would be a shame to write off incredibly deep shows like evangelion just because it does stupid anime shit sometimes

there's a film called Perfect Blue that you might enjoy—it's a movie person's movie even moreso than Akira, i would say, and it inspired Black Swan if you enjoyed that

you're gonna have a tough time finding a good series, though—there's a show on netflix called Devilman: Crybaby that i really like, for all the same reasons that i like evangelion basically, and it's only 10 episodes. you'll know right away whether it's for you or not
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cute girls doing cute things

in all seriousness, my favorite genres are school/drama/romance/comedy, so i guess i enjoy the stories they tell and the shenanigans they get into... and cute girls. im a pretty simple person if you couldnt tell

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im not a big fan of shounen, so i wonder if i grew up/started with shounen, if my tastes would be radically different
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Cute girls
Giant robots
Sometimes good witing


 
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note the disparity in my response vs. everyone else's responses

as it turns out, so long as you put yourself in a simplistic enough frame of mind, you can enjoy literally anything


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note the disparity in my response vs. everyone else's responses

as it turns out, so long as you put yourself in a simplistic enough frame of mind, you can enjoy literally anything

Not all of us feel obligated to write a sermon to validate our feelings on some cartoons. It's not that serious and we aren't running YouTube channels that get paid for it.

Perhaps one of these days I'll do a write up on Universal Century Gundam or something, but I'm too lazy for that ATM and I've got better things to do like play Civ 6.

If you want something here's Digi and some other guy talking about my  current favorite show which mostly line up pretty well with my thoughts on it.

https://youtu.be/rUT038OSEu8
https://youtu.be/Wh1QFa3i5yE


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note the disparity in my response vs. everyone else's responses

as it turns out, so long as you put yourself in a simplistic enough frame of mind, you can enjoy literally anything

Imagine having such a sad life you have to prove your superiority even on anime


 
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note the disparity in my response vs. everyone else's responses

as it turns out, so long as you put yourself in a simplistic enough frame of mind, you can enjoy literally anything
Imagine having such a sad life you have to prove your superiority even on anime
pretty sure i didn't prove my superiority

pretty sure you did lmao


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note the disparity in my response vs. everyone else's responses

as it turns out, so long as you put yourself in a simplistic enough frame of mind, you can enjoy literally anything
Imagine having such a sad life you have to prove your superiority even on anime
pretty sure i didn't prove my superiority

pretty sure you did lmao

Whatever fills your attention quota Verby


 
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Not all of us feel obligated to write a sermon to validate our feelings on some cartoons.
that's fine, but forgive me if i think it's better to post something more thoughtful in a thread asking a genuine question


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I don't think Verb was being condescending or saying that there's anything wrong with having simple explanations. I enjoy SoL titles far more than serious ones (usually because the more serious titles often end up being terrible); I'm watching Non Non Biyori and Sound! Euphonium right now and I don't have anything really to say about why I enjoy them other than "cute things are cute".

But God damn, I do wish I could have a channel like Mother's Basement though.

Not all of us feel obligated to write a sermon to validate our feelings on some cartoons. It's not that serious and we aren't running YouTube channels that get paid for it.


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I think a major thing for a lot of people as a starting point to liking is that it's just precived as different that what's normally broadcast. Especially in the past like the early 2000s

Back when they broadcast there was a notaby difference between something like Dragonball Z and Gundam Wing and even other action cartoons of the time both stylistically and tonnaly which intreuged people. Sooner or later they would discover the larger context of anime and find something they liked about it which carries from person to person.


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Mother's Basement.

Good lord I can't stand to watch that guy after discovering his Twitter.


 
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I think a major thing for a lot of people as a starting point to liking is that it's just precived as different that what's normally broadcast. Especially in the past like the early 2000s

Back when they broadcast there was a notaby difference between something like Dragonball Z and Gundam Wing and even other action cartoons of the time both stylistically and tonnaly which intreuged people. Sooner or later they would discover the larger context of anime and find something they liked about it which carries from person to person.
that's definitely a good point

some people who are into cartoons in general may find it frustrating that 99% of western cartoons are either 1.) for children, or 2.) completely drama-less adult comedy shows

even shows that i want to enjoy for their serious thematic stuff, like steven universe, tend to be off-puttingly juvenile

anime provides a variety in genres that western cartoons simply lack, and i've actually always commended it for that


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as it turns out, so long as you put yourself in a simplistic enough frame of mind, you can enjoy literally anything

You're certainly not wrong at a here though, considering the absolute bullshit that gets popular.

Even within series I think are genuine good this applies. Fate Grand Order Babylonia's anome is probably the most aggressively mediocre adaptation of anything in human history with flat art, Dreamcast quality CGi and story beats that somehow don't land  early as well as they did in the literal mobile game where everything is portrayed in fucking .png images. But because the game version had been written well and  had 10 billion ass-shots of the girls per episode the fanbase treats it like the second comming of Christ.

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How cringe is his Twitter?

Good lord I can't stand to watch that guy after discovering his Twitter.


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How cringe is his Twitter?

Good lord I can't stand to watch that guy after discovering his Twitter.



He is also a litteral cuckold BTW. His girlfriend does porn.


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It's just like any other medium, most is garbage but there's also plenty of good stuff out there, you just have to know what you like and where to look.

I fucking hate slice of life/cute girl shit, I don't know how anyone stomachs it.

Some movies/series I enjoy are:

Mob Psycho 100

Mobile Suit Gundam (universal century)

Evangelion

Monster, which is a very un-anime show. None of that kawaii bullshit here, every character is a fat elderly German man. It's also on YouTube.

Ghost in The Shell

I enjoyed Akira. It has amazing animation.
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I think a major thing for a lot of people as a starting point to liking is that it's just precived as different that what's normally broadcast. Especially in the past like the early 2000s

Back when they broadcast there was a notaby difference between something like Dragonball Z and Gundam Wing and even other action cartoons of the time both stylistically and tonnaly which intreuged people. Sooner or later they would discover the larger context of anime and find something they liked about it which carries from person to person.
that's definitely a good point

some people who are into cartoons in general may find it frustrating that 99% of western cartoons are either 1.) for children, or 2.) completely drama-less adult comedy shows

even shows that i want to enjoy for their serious thematic stuff, like steven universe, tend to be off-puttingly juvenile

anime provides a variety in genres that western cartoons simply lack, and i've actually always commended it for that

Yeah that's a big part of it for me. I really love 2D animation, but in the US its pretty much relegated to children's shows and shitty adult comedies.


 
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How cringe is his Twitter?

Good lord I can't stand to watch that guy after discovering his Twitter.


He is also a litteral cuckold BTW. His girlfriend does porn.
well, just lewd pictures, right

i know people recently turned on idubbbz for this, but i honestly don't see how that makes you a cuck (or why it matters)


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Mobile Suit Gundam (universal century)

None of the AUs?


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Mobile Suit Gundam (universal century)

None of the AUs?
Haven't seen them. On episode 15 of Zeta Gundam rn. I wonder if Char will show up. There's been an odd amount of focus on some guy named "Quattro Bajeena." Don't know what's up with that.


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It's disappointing how quick he was to make such a comment, but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised considering how he found parts of the Konosuba movie to be "problematic".



He is also a litteral cuckold BTW. His girlfriend does porn.


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It's disappointing how quick he was to make such a comment, but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised considering how he found parts of the Konosuba movie to be "problematic".



He is also a litteral cuckold BTW. His girlfriend does porn.

It's especially rediculous when you consider he and his girlfriend played the VNs before, expressed zero grevances and he even suggested one of the girls be in Smash Ultimate


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Well for me currently, it started with getting to watch Dragon Ball Super on Toonami. Eventually they started advertising new shows coming to their lineup and I just went "Oh, that premise looks interesting, I'll watch that." Which led me to My Hero Academia, Promised Neverland, Fire Force, Dr. Stone, and Demon Slayer.


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The only one I've been able to enjoy is One Punch Man, because it's poking fun at anime
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Some of them just have engaging stories that happen to be in a different language. There’s no show I’ve been able to find that’s similar to Evangelion in mainstream media. I just wish that the dubs didn’t suck so much ass so I could watch it without having to read subtitles.