Am i now a valid trans girl because I can say "I'm on hormones"? Seems silly

 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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People called me a trender and that I'm not even trans or that I'm AGP for so long, and now when I get on hormones, those aggressive faces turned into friendly ones. It's sick seeing people questioning the legitimacy of a person's "transness" (way out of my element here so bare with me) based on whether or not their current social and/or financial status allows them to take HRT.

So much toxicity within trans groups is all I can say. You'd think it would be like, we're all in the same boat, but no. It's just funny that I've now joined this secret club/clique, and fucked up as well.
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Yeah it's completely pointless to get worked up about something so trivial


 
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this thread deserves more recognition - way more important than my other one

I'll even add a cool photo to this thread



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Well tbh you'll never be a girl
That's your opinion, which I completely reject.


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be


 
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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
Funny how people only ever care about biology when it comes to trans people

No one has ever said "damn dude, look at the X chromosomes on that chick"


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
people call me a terf when I say "yeah, you can be a girl, but you will never be female"


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
Funny how people only ever care about biology when it comes to trans people

No one has ever said "damn dude, look at the X chromosomes on that chick"
but people pretty much constantly tell women "I wanna put babies in you"


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This you ma'am?


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
people call me a terf when I say "yeah, you can be a girl, but you will never be female"
Hm maybe this is what I'm trying to convey


 
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Hmm...


This you ma'am?
Should’ve gone for the head.


 
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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
When you use this word, you're just assigning an irrelevant label to another word. So you're saying I'll never be the label of a girl. I'll never be the literal label sticker on her shirt, no - but I'll feel like one, act as one, and be treated like one. Of course we can't have all the advantages cis girls have, but we can still forget the biological aspect and just see each other as a mind not a body. People are so vain and I think the shame of not passing deals with the loss of your dignity, but it's all just pure luck whether you pass or not. But that's the thing. All of that comes from society, not from biology. You feel and know you're a girl from the simple fact that your entire viewbox has shifted. Not so angry, or quick to get aggravated. I feel more alert, yet calmer.

The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
Last Edit: May 11, 2019, 02:10:34 AM by Carmen


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This you ma'am?
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WHO THE FUCK

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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.


 
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Hmm...
Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.


 
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—Judge Aaron Satie
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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
hmm maybe you're right, but all bodies are different - people on reddit say dissimilar things and I legit have not been as angry. And as of today, it's been 5 days.


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
I have been on hrt for well over a year, I know what I am talking about.
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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself


 
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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today


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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

what the fuck is that supposed to mean

if you didn't already feel like a girl then you aren't trans
I thought the whole point of this thread was that drugs don't make you trans


 
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Well tbh you'll never be a girl

well yeah, but I know that I won't/can't be
Why the hell not? If I can transition then hell yes you can. You look so much better than me already.
Nono, it's that no one can just become a boy or a girl biologically
The fact that I've been on both sides, essentially, and have seen the actual, noticeable changes in my mood and judgment, leads me to believe that yes, I am a woman.
No, no you have not.
That is 100% placebic.

Anti-androgens work very slowly, and will take several weeks, two in the very least (and then only if you weight like 100lbs) to even begin to suppress testosterone production.

Your brain chemistry hasn't changed just because there's estrogen in there either. It isn't some kind of hard drug that you can feel hit you in a couple of hours, it will take around a week, maybe more for the increased levels to have any effect on your body whatsoever.

It will probably take three months, not three days for your brain to reflect female-like neurological patterns.

Don't get too excited and trick yourself into thinking that you're suddenly a different person because you've got these drugs.
First of all, I immediately did double what my prescription said to do, because doctors will always start you off on the lowest possible dose for liability reasons. I know my body, and I know how big I am, so I'm running two patches and two pills per morning.

And oh damn man, you can't possibly imagine how different I feel. You aren't even on HRT so please don't tell me I can't feel them effects.
It does take longer than a few days. I felt a difference probably 1.5 to 2 weeks in. It’s probably placebo if it’s been a few days.
wait are you supposed to feel a difference? Granted I'm only 2.5 weeks in, and all I feel is less depressed and cloudy-minded
that's normal after around three weeks, yes

other than thinking more clearly (although I think my judgement is inferior now), after a few months I started experiencing arousal very differently

not a lot really changes, and you mostly remain yourself
aka - useless

I dont care about looking different, people wont treat me like a girl because I start looking like a mangirl with boobs. I want to feel the way a girl feels but I guess nope that's not even a thing

so glad I checked in with sep7 today

what the fuck is that supposed to mean

if you didn't already feel like a girl then you aren't trans
I thought the whole point of this thread was that drugs don't make you trans
The point of this thread was that people only take you seriously as a trans person if you're on HRT

and lol ok dude - I was still a man before HRT with a male brain, and male chemicals and male chromosomes. Gender Dysphoria isnt feeling like a girl lol, it's feeling like you don't want to be a man. It doesn't magically make you a girl because you want to not be a man. HRT is supposed to be the changer, but now according to you and cheat and your bastions of knowledge on the subject all HRT does is make you look different, which I couldn't care less about
Last Edit: May 11, 2019, 01:19:21 PM by Carmen