A Vegan diet is unhealthy, Verbatim

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/west/kitten-nearly-dies-from-vegan-diet/story-fngnvmj7-1226682108386

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The horrific case at a North Melbourne animal hospital has prompted a warning about the dangers of people "forcing ideologies" on their pets.

Lort Smith Animal Hospital veterinarian Leanne Pinfold said the kitten was brought in this month by its owners, who were believed to be vegan.

She said the kitten's diet of potatoes, rice milk and pasta had caused it to become critically ill.

"It was extremely weak and collapsed when it came in. It was almost non-responsive," Dr Pinfold said.

The kitten was given fluids via a drip, placed on a heat pad and fed meat.

It remained in hospital for three days after which the kitten's owners were given meat to feed their pet at home, she said.

Dr Pinfold said as obligate or true carnivores, cats needed meat to survive.

She said people who wanted a pet that did not eat meat should consider other animals, such as rabbits.

#SaveTheKittens


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Cats are carnivores. Humans are not.

And that's a horrible diet to feed anything, anywhere, ever.
Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 06:21:50 AM by Pendulate


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Cats are carnivores. Humans are not.

And that's a horrible diet to feed anything, anywhere, ever.
Well humans are omnivores, so I wouldn't say we're not carnivores and I wouldn't say we're not herbivores.

The ideal, healthy human diet contains assets from both.


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Cats are carnivores. Humans are not.

And that's a horrible diet to feed anything, anywhere, ever.
Well humans are omnivores, so I wouldn't say we're not carnivores and I wouldn't say we're not herbivores.

The ideal, healthy human diet contains assets from both.
Not really. Omnivores don't need to eat meat; they can eat it, but they have no physiological requirement to do so.

The ideal human diet consists of all the nutrients we need to be healthy. Where we get these nutrients from isn't important, nutritionally speaking, so long as we get them. And we can get them all from non-animal sources.


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*I should also add that humans differ from other omnivores in that we lack omnivorous instincts; strictly speaking, we're opportunistic eaters.


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tfw Pendulate ends Nick's career.
its more like tfw a vegan bites a bait thread


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Cats are carnivores. Humans are not.

And that's a horrible diet to feed anything, anywhere, ever.
Well humans are omnivores, so I wouldn't say we're not carnivores and I wouldn't say we're not herbivores.

The ideal, healthy human diet contains assets from both.
Not really. Omnivores don't need to eat meat; they can eat it, but they have no physiological requirement to do so.

The ideal human diet consists of all the nutrients we need to be healthy. Where we get these nutrients from isn't important, nutritionally speaking, so long as we get them. And we can get them all from non-animal sources.
Not with any level of effeciency.
I haven't eaten meat in days and I've been feeling lightheaded and weak, even though I've been eating plenty of nuts.

I would have to eat processed with nutritional additives to get all the nutrition I need.
Now I need to sleep until I'm strong enough to go get a burger.


 
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"forcing ideologies" on their pets.
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What?


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I haven't eaten meat in days and I've been feeling lightheaded and weak, even though I've been eating plenty of nuts.
Then your diet is poorly structured. You can't eat whatever you want and expect to be healthy just because it's vegan.


 
 
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"forcing ideologies" on their pets.
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What?
There are people out there who own dogs and cats but don't want to feed them meat because they themselves don't eat it. So their ideology of not eating meat is being foisted upon a carnivorous animal and surprise surprise the poor bugger falls ill from malnutrition.

Basically what the article in the OP says but mongs like these folks have been around for quite a while now.


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"forcing ideologies" on their pets.
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What?
Pop-journalism bullshit.

It's why my cat is a totalitarian.


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Well, Humans can work around the nutritional limitations of a Vegetarian diet, provided they know what to eat to stay healthy, so it isn't really an inherently unhealthy diet, but yes. Carnivorous Animals, as the name suggests, need to eat Meat, and if they have a wannabe eco-warrior of an owner trying to make them a Vegetarian because of their ideologies, they're actually compromising their wish to avoid contributing to the harm/killing of living beings, because it's basically a slow death sentence.

Any mong who puts their special snowflake status ahead of the basic living needs of an Animal they're responsible for, or doesn't bother to learn about the potential consequences of giving their pet a major diet change, should probably need to obtain a legal permit for that shit.


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its more like tfw a vegan bites a bait thread
Oh, I'm sorry, but because I don't know the rules of autistic, and edgy teens on the internet, I can't follow them.

Knowing when to respond to a stupid reply vs responding to a stupid reply isn't easy for me to distinguish between, because both are said with some real intent.

People who make threads like these where they "troll" the people are actually projecting deep feelings and thoughts/beliefs. There's nothing wrong with responding to these kinds of things in communities where everyone knows each other.


 
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tfw Pendulate ends Nick's career.
its more like tfw a vegan bites a bait thread
Oh, I'm sorry, but because I don't know the rules of autistic, and edgy teens on the internet, I can't follow them.

Knowing when to respond to a stupid reply vs responding to a stupid reply isn't easy for me to distinguish between, because both are said with some real intent.

People who make threads like these where they "troll" the people are actually projecting deep feelings and thoughts/beliefs. There's nothing wrong with responding to these kinds of things in communities where everyone knows each other.
too autistic, didn't read.


 
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On the off-chance that this is more than just bait and you're willing to have a real discussion:

Being a vegan isn't about being healthy, necessarily. Even if being a vegan shortened my life by twenty years, I would still be a vegan. It's the ethical implications of meat-eating that I take issue with.

Obviously, forcing a pet outside of its naturally-ordained diet is wrong, but it's a silly comparison, because human beings not only can survive on a vegan diet--they also have the self-control and know-how to do so.

I'm not arguing just yet, though. Merely elucidating my position on the philosophy further, because you seem to be under the impression that it makes a difference to me whether veganism is healthy or not, and it frankly doesn't.
Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 08:17:34 AM by Verbatim


 
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...they were allowed to keep the cat? parents can get their children taken away for less. if they were really 'forcing their ideologies' on their pets, that's p fucked up. hopefully they were just ignorant and not insane.


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tfw Pendulate ends Nick's career.
its more like tfw a vegan bites a bait thread
Oh, I'm sorry, but because I don't know the rules of autistic, and edgy teens on the internet, I can't follow them.

Knowing when to respond to a stupid reply vs responding to a stupid reply isn't easy for me to distinguish between, because both are said with some real intent.

People who make threads like these where they "troll" the people are actually projecting deep feelings and thoughts/beliefs. There's nothing wrong with responding to these kinds of things in communities where everyone knows each other.
too autistic, didn't read.
Fun how you chose a word I used in the first sentence of my reply.

I call bullshit on that you didn't read that much.


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tfw Pendulate ends Nick's career.
its more like tfw a vegan bites a bait thread
Oh, I'm sorry, but because I don't know the rules of autistic, and edgy teens on the internet, I can't follow them.

Knowing when to respond to a stupid reply vs responding to a stupid reply isn't easy for me to distinguish between, because both are said with some real intent.

People who make threads like these where they "troll" the people are actually projecting deep feelings and thoughts/beliefs. There's nothing wrong with responding to these kinds of things in communities where everyone knows each other.
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Technically you're arguing.
I'm making an argument, but I'm not going to argue with him.


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I haven't eaten meat in days and I've been feeling lightheaded and weak, even though I've been eating plenty of nuts.
Then your diet is poorly structured. You can't eat whatever you want and expect to be healthy just because it's vegan.
The vegan diet is scientifically proven to be unhealthy, and needs vitamins and supplements to be considered "healthy".

Basically, you're a joke.
So you're saying that
everything that isn't natural<natural?
If so, that's pretty dumb. It's not like vitamins are gonna disappear before store-meat, so considering most of us don't hunt for our meat it's stupid to call it natural.


 
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If you make an argument, you're arguing.
I'm (very obviously) talking about the continual back-and-forth sense of the word "argument".

If he responds to my post (which, I don't see how he could), I won't respond back.
That's called not arguing.
Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 12:10:09 PM by Verbatim