Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:32:39 PMit's a shame you're too insecure to approach the political stuff with civility.>reaching this level of projection
it's a shame you're too insecure to approach the political stuff with civility.
c-communism never failed because it never happened, guys!!!!maybe because it never can, so stop living in fantasy land you idiots lol. humans are retarded and power hungry to a fault, grow up and realize it.
Quote from: i am karjala takaisin on March 04, 2018, 02:21:37 PMsapphire likes my artwe're welcoming people, despite what the rabble says. it's a shame you're too insecure to approach the political stuff with civility.
sapphire likes my art
Quote from: maverick on March 04, 2018, 02:35:42 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:32:39 PMit's a shame you're too insecure to approach the political stuff with civility.>reaching this level of projectioni tried being civil with you people years ago. it was clearly a foolish endeavor.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:32:39 PMWhat is it these evil American imperialists gain by conquering North Korea?
this sounds like the start of a great new copypasta
Quote from: challengerX on March 04, 2018, 02:40:08 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:32:39 PMWhat is it these evil American imperialists gain by conquering North Korea?profits via military industrial complex contracts and regional influence. the US wants to exert influence in east asia in order to prevent china from achieving hegemony; having key allies in japan and the *whole* korean peninsula is critical to that. and i think the imperialists are honestly just a little embarrassed by the fact that the kim regime hasnt been toppled.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:32:39 PMQuote from: i am karjala takaisin on March 04, 2018, 02:21:37 PMsapphire likes my artwe're welcoming people, despite what the rabble says. it's a shame you're too insecure to approach the political stuff with civility.whoa whoa man where did that come from, when i made that thread the other day it was just because i was surpriseda lot of my views already line up with sapphire anyway, i dont like capitalism, im anti-imperialism and i dont think we should wage all out war with north korea, all that shit, sorry i dont feel like getting into arguing about fringe stuff from the past like "where mao/stalin good guys" because i think their reputations are pretty set in stone and if you want to argue for socialism to people you gotta move on from them
Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:43:20 PMQuote from: challengerX on March 04, 2018, 02:40:08 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:32:39 PMWhat is it these evil American imperialists gain by conquering North Korea?profits via military industrial complex contracts and regional influence. the US wants to exert influence in east asia in order to prevent china from achieving hegemony; having key allies in japan and the *whole* korean peninsula is critical to that. and i think the imperialists are honestly just a little embarrassed by the fact that the kim regime hasnt been toppled.Okay, legit question instead of this dumb shit postingIsn't China being just as imperialistic though and filling the gap the US is leaving? Especially building islands that host military bases, despite condemnation from the UN? I mean they're practically bullying Taiwan and Hong Kong as well.
yes. china is an imperialist capitalist nation just like the US at this point.
i cant believe my position on this isnt obvious to you.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:46:20 PMyes. china is an imperialist capitalist nation just like the US at this point.I think the problem is once a nation reaches critical mass with power, you see this happen, and it's kinda shittyQuotei cant believe my position on this isnt obvious to you. this isn't necessary
this is why we need international accountability and built-in accountability of a state government to its proles (i mean true democracy, not lip service democracy like america's or china's). addressing abuses of power is a bit of a different conversation anyway.
Can someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.
Quote from: Maxine on March 04, 2018, 03:00:33 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 04, 2018, 12:52:50 PMCan someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.the only thing that gets people banned is bigotry.if someone says something that is racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, classist, ableist, etc then they'll be warned or banned.you people are such sheltered little bitches hahahaha
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 04, 2018, 12:52:50 PMCan someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.the only thing that gets people banned is bigotry.if someone says something that is racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, classist, ableist, etc then they'll be warned or banned.
Quote from: challengerX on March 04, 2018, 03:02:51 PMQuote from: Maxine on March 04, 2018, 03:00:33 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 04, 2018, 12:52:50 PMCan someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.the only thing that gets people banned is bigotry.if someone says something that is racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, classist, ableist, etc then they'll be warned or banned.you people are such sheltered little bitches hahahahayou have NO IDEA with maxine
Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:52:19 PMthis is why we need international accountability and built-in accountability of a state government to its proles (i mean true democracy, not lip service democracy like america's or china's). addressing abuses of power is a bit of a different conversation anyway. Best democracy is a parliamentary one imo for various reasons. Also I don't think China tries to pass off it's a Democracy at all, just capitalist (even if they don't outright say it.). China is as one party as you can be and they use Trump as an example as to why Democracy shouldn't be a thing there.
Quote from: Luciana on March 04, 2018, 02:56:11 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:52:19 PMthis is why we need international accountability and built-in accountability of a state government to its proles (i mean true democracy, not lip service democracy like america's or china's). addressing abuses of power is a bit of a different conversation anyway. Best democracy is a parliamentary one imo for various reasons. Also I don't think China tries to pass off it's a Democracy at all, just capitalist (even if they don't outright say it.). China is as one party as you can be and they use Trump as an example as to why Democracy shouldn't be a thing there.i prefer direct democracy, and the removal of private interests from the conversation completely. china does still try to justify itself as democratic, since socialism is in theory the ultimate form of democracy, and maintaining socialist rhetoric is just part of how they maintain power.
Quote from: Maxine on March 04, 2018, 03:00:33 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 04, 2018, 12:52:50 PMCan someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.the only thing that gets people banned is bigotry.if someone says something that is racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, classist, ableist, etc then they'll be warned or banned.This doesn't actually mean anything when you can reach to the extent that you guys do for a post to fit one of your buzzwords. Azumarril accused us of being classist yesterday, and I genuinely have no clue what he was talking about. I'm not even sure he knows.
Quote from: maverick on March 04, 2018, 03:10:38 PMQuote from: Maxine on March 04, 2018, 03:00:33 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 04, 2018, 12:52:50 PMCan someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.the only thing that gets people banned is bigotry.if someone says something that is racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, classist, ableist, etc then they'll be warned or banned.This doesn't actually mean anything when you can reach to the extent that you guys do for a post to fit one of your buzzwords. Azumarril accused us of being classist yesterday, and I genuinely have no clue what he was talking about. I'm not even sure he knows.a lot of you hate poor people. that's classism.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:27:46 PMyou dont know anything sapphirei picture that as an accomplishment, not an insultthanks, daddy
you dont know anything sapphire
Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 03:08:25 PMQuote from: Luciana on March 04, 2018, 02:56:11 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:52:19 PMthis is why we need international accountability and built-in accountability of a state government to its proles (i mean true democracy, not lip service democracy like america's or china's). addressing abuses of power is a bit of a different conversation anyway. Best democracy is a parliamentary one imo for various reasons. Also I don't think China tries to pass off it's a Democracy at all, just capitalist (even if they don't outright say it.). China is as one party as you can be and they use Trump as an example as to why Democracy shouldn't be a thing there.i prefer direct democracy, and the removal of private interests from the conversation completely. china does still try to justify itself as democratic, since socialism is in theory the ultimate form of democracy, and maintaining socialist rhetoric is just part of how they maintain power.Only issue with direct democracy is how long it'd take for literally anything to get passedin ancient times it'd make sense, but with 300 million people in the US alone, could you imagine how long it'd take to do anything?Also I'd have to disagree with you on the China thing