and even besides that, i would argue that all the america bootlicking people do on here is inherently classist because the US catalyzes global economic stratification in order to maintain power. supporting an institution that purposefully worsens world poverty is a classist action.

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Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 04, 2018, 12:52:50 PM

Can someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.

I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.

the only thing that gets people banned is bigotry.

if someone says something that is racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, classist, ableist, etc then they'll be warned or banned.

you people are such sheltered little bitches hahahaha

you have NO IDEA with maxine

I can second this

I love Maxine and have patience with her

but damn I would be lying if I said I never wanted to choke her out more than a few times

but she's improving on many things with life, so eh

i mean i fucking hate rich people, so i guess that makes me a classist too

but the fact that poor people are the ones having the most kids, despite being the ones who shouldn't be having any period, doesn't put them in my favor either

this is probably the most who-gives-a-shit form of bigotry there is

Quote from: Verbatim on March 04, 2018, 03:21:48 PM

i mean i fucking hate rich people, so i guess that makes me a classist too

but the fact that poor people are the ones having the most kids, despite being the ones who shouldn't be having any period, doesn't put them in my favor either

this is probably the most who-gives-a-shit form of bigotry there is

the idea that you can actually be classist against the rich is about as valid as the idea that racism against whites in america is a problem. classism is very much a valid concern; you would know this if you were actually dedicated to morality. and you really have no place to be telling poor people how many kids to have you ugly little chucklefuck.

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Quote from: Verbatim on March 04, 2018, 03:21:48 PM

i mean i fucking hate rich people, so i guess that makes me a classist too

but the fact that poor people are the ones having the most kids, despite being the ones who shouldn't be having any period, doesn't put them in my favor either

this is probably the most who-gives-a-shit form of bigotry there is

the idea that you can actually be classist against the rich is about as valid as the idea that racism against whites in america is a problem. classism is very much a valid concern; you would know this if you were actually dedicated to morality. and you really have no place to be telling poor people how many kids to have you ugly little chucklefuck.

nobody on this website has dedicated themselves to morality more than i have, especially not you

and i am in every place to tell everyone in the world how many kids they should be having

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you monstrously selfish cunt

i genuinely hope that you reconnect with your humanity one day. it isnt too late for you.

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Quote from: Verbatim on March 04, 2018, 03:26:40 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 03:24:23 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 04, 2018, 03:21:48 PM

i mean i fucking hate rich people, so i guess that makes me a classist too

but the fact that poor people are the ones having the most kids, despite being the ones who shouldn't be having any period, doesn't put them in my favor either

this is probably the most who-gives-a-shit form of bigotry there is

the idea that you can actually be classist against the rich is about as valid as the idea that racism against whites in america is a problem. classism is very much a valid concern; you would know this if you were actually dedicated to morality. and you really have no place to be telling poor people how many kids to have you ugly little chucklefuck.

nobody on this website has dedicated themselves to morality more than i have, especially not you

and i am in every place to tell everyone in the world how many kids they should be having

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you monstrously selfish cunt

i genuinely hope that you reconnect with your humanity one day. it isnt too late for you.

give me one reason why i should want to reconnect with the most disgusting form of life in the known universe

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Quote from: Verbatim on March 04, 2018, 03:28:37 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 03:27:22 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 04, 2018, 03:26:40 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 03:24:23 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 04, 2018, 03:21:48 PM

i mean i fucking hate rich people, so i guess that makes me a classist too

but the fact that poor people are the ones having the most kids, despite being the ones who shouldn't be having any period, doesn't put them in my favor either

this is probably the most who-gives-a-shit form of bigotry there is

the idea that you can actually be classist against the rich is about as valid as the idea that racism against whites in america is a problem. classism is very much a valid concern; you would know this if you were actually dedicated to morality. and you really have no place to be telling poor people how many kids to have you ugly little chucklefuck.

nobody on this website has dedicated themselves to morality more than i have, especially not you

and i am in every place to tell everyone in the world how many kids they should be having

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you monstrously selfish cunt

i genuinely hope that you reconnect with your humanity one day. it isnt too late for you.

give me one reason why i should want to reconnect with the most disgusting form of life in the known universe

to avoid hypocrisy and the eternal damnation of your soul, of course.

there is no hypocrisy whatsoever, and lmao you're a christian now hilarious

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Quote from: Azumarill on March 04, 2018, 02:52:19 PM

this is why we need international accountability and built-in accountability of a state government to its proles (i mean true democracy, not lip service democracy like america's or china's). addressing abuses of power is a bit of a different conversation anyway.

Best democracy is a parliamentary one imo for various reasons. Also I don't think China tries to pass off it's a Democracy at all, just capitalist (even if they don't outright say it.). China is as one party as you can be and they use Trump as an example as to why Democracy shouldn't be a thing there.

i prefer direct democracy, and the removal of private interests from the conversation completely. china does still try to justify itself as democratic, since socialism is in theory the ultimate form of democracy, and maintaining socialist rhetoric is just part of how they maintain power.

Only issue with direct democracy is how long it'd take for literally anything to get passed

in ancient times it'd make sense, but with 300 million people in the US alone, could you imagine how long it'd take to do anything?

Also I'd have to disagree with you on the China thing

there's nothing to disagree about on china. they maintain a baseline stance in support of a vaguely democratic concept as part of their government justification. it's not just part of the socialist rhetoric, but also goes back to sun yat-sen and the chinese republic; everyone in power in china since sun yat-sen's time has done this, connecting themselves to his democratic ideals to maintain a sense that they carry his legacy.

Hm, I see

I'll have to research into that, it sounds interesting.

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 04, 2018, 12:52:50 PM

Can someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.

I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.

the only thing that gets people banned is bigotry.

if someone says something that is racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, classist, ableist, etc then they'll be warned or banned.

What I find particularly funny is that people who hate on capitalism seem to be very aggressive and bitter towards anyone who is successful or even just in disagreement with them, and yet they do not seem to care that they display that kind of attitude, even though it virtually saps any influence they might have over the average population and makes it incredibly hard for them to actually create any of the change within government they would like to see.

Your average working man or woman who just wants to make their way in life, provide for their family, and be happy is going to look at that kind of hateful rhetoric, even if it's directed at the rich or the country, and be completely turned off by it.

Hate doesn't initiate change, not without violence. You have to present yourselves as respectable. There's a reason why Martin Luther King Jr asked his supporters to march in dress clothes and not black block or something intimidating. He understood the value of the public's perceived image of your movement.

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Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 04, 2018, 12:52:50 PM

Can someone from Sapphire explain to me what ideologies/beliefs they considered bannable, and why does everything on there seem to boil down to politics, at least from an outside perspective that's what it seems like.

I can understand the dislike of banter/rudeness, but what I don't understand is what seems like the very firm political thought that controls the group, and the apparent disdain for any opposing thought.

the only thing that gets people banned is bigotry.

if someone says something that is racist, homophobic, transphobic, sexist, classist, ableist, etc then they'll be warned or banned.

So if I dislike certain groups of people that Sapphire doesn't dislike, that warrants a ban?