Spoiler Kit Harington is fucking horrendous at keeping secrets (GoT S6 news)

Mordo · September 15, 2015, 12:19:00 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-6-kit-harington-all-but-admits-jon-snow-isnt-dead-will-be-in-the-show-for-seasons-to-come-10501224.html?cmpid=facebook-post
Of course, we don't know what 'not dead' will entail, as we all know resurrection in the ASOIAF series is not without its significant drawbacks. Still, it's good to see D&D haven't gone completely off the fucking rails yet.

gats · September 15, 2015, 12:24:53 PM

What a non lifting faggot

Thun · September 15, 2015, 12:30:30 PM

lol it was kinda obvious tbh

Jester · September 15, 2015, 12:35:17 PM

Quote from: Thunder on September 15, 2015, 12:30:30 PM

lol it was kinda obvious tbh

BaconShelf · September 15, 2015, 01:22:51 PM

It's a pretty widely accepted theory Jon is coming back by warging into Ghost.

Zizzy · September 15, 2015, 01:25:02 PM

There would be no point in watching the show if they killed off both Stannis and Jon.

Onion · September 15, 2015, 01:26:46 PM

Don't see the point in killing characters if they don't have the integrity to make them stay dead.

It's no better than the ending to Twilight.

Zizzy · September 15, 2015, 01:39:57 PM

Quote from: Orion on September 15, 2015, 01:26:46 PM

Don't see the point in killing characters if they don't have the integrity to make them stay dead.

It's no better than the ending to Twilight.

Game of Thrones has had its fair share of character killing. Literally one very minor character has come back to life, and he's only really served as a way to show the power of the Lord of Light.

BaconShelf · September 15, 2015, 02:14:14 PM

Quote from: Orion on September 15, 2015, 01:26:46 PM

Don't see the point in killing characters if they don't have the integrity to make them stay dead.

It's no better than the ending to Twilight.

Except it serves a purpose in the plot. If Jon is the true warrior of the light, then his death is good. As a member of the Night's Watch, he vowed to father no children, swear no allegiance and never abandon his watch from now until his death. He has died, and, if R+L=J is true, that once again makes him eligible for control of the the Iron Throne, and thus overall the saviour of the realm.

GRRM plans things out, he doesn't kill off characters without reason.

Turkey · September 15, 2015, 03:19:03 PM

Quote from: Orion on September 15, 2015, 01:26:46 PM

Don't see the point in killing characters if they don't have the integrity to make them stay dead.

Only one POV character has been brought back, and that's in an extremely limited and crippled capacity. It's not at all a common occurrence, and is always at a huge cost. To bring Snow back would be one of the most significant events in the entire series.

Mordo · September 15, 2015, 03:45:21 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on September 15, 2015, 02:14:14 PM

Quote from: Orion on September 15, 2015, 01:26:46 PM
Don't see the point in killing characters if they don't have the integrity to make them stay dead.

It's no better than the ending to Twilight.

Except it serves a purpose in the plot. If Jon is the true warrior of the light, then his death is good. As a member of the Night's Watch, he vowed to father no children, swear no allegiance and never abandon his watch from now until his death. He has died, and, if R+L=J is true, that once again makes him eligible for control of the the Iron Throne, and thus overall the saviour of the realm.

GRRM plans things out, he doesn't kill off characters without reason.

Kinda contradicts Martin's themes of realism to have everything wrapped up in a nice little bow like a fairytale though.

Not saying that the resurrection of Jon is implausible, but the theory of him swooping in and saving the day just comes off as too sickly sweet to be believable. Remember how we all thought Ned was going to be the protagonist of the series, then subsequently Robb? Yeah.

Risay117 · September 15, 2015, 09:24:55 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on September 15, 2015, 01:22:51 PM

It's a pretty widely accepted theory Jon is coming back by warging into Ghost.

Is there not three theories on how he will be brought back. One with Melisandra bringing him back as Azor Ahai, and another as a White walker?

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Nick McIntyre · September 16, 2015, 02:02:46 AM

Quote from: underground teen memes on September 15, 2015, 03:45:21 PM

Quote from: BaconShelf on September 15, 2015, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: Orion on September 15, 2015, 01:26:46 PM
Don't see the point in killing characters if they don't have the integrity to make them stay dead.

It's no better than the ending to Twilight.

Except it serves a purpose in the plot. If Jon is the true warrior of the light, then his death is good. As a member of the Night's Watch, he vowed to father no children, swear no allegiance and never abandon his watch from now until his death. He has died, and, if R+L=J is true, that once again makes him eligible for control of the the Iron Throne, and thus overall the saviour of the realm.

GRRM plans things out, he doesn't kill off characters without reason.
Kinda contradicts Martin's themes of realism to have everything wrapped up in a nice little bow like a fairytale though.

Not saying that the resurrection of Jon is implausible, but the theory of him swooping in and saving the day just comes off as too sickly sweet to be believable. Remember how we all thought Ned was going to be the protagonist of the series, then subsequently Robb? Yeah.

The thing is, he still has a story to tell. It's also a fantasy series, it just has some more edge and darkness to it. I'd probably think of it as the "Watchmen" of fantasy books, describing the realism and horrors of war, the politics, etc.

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Mordo · September 16, 2015, 06:58:53 AM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on September 16, 2015, 02:02:46 AM

Quote from: underground teen memes on September 15, 2015, 03:45:21 PM
Quote from: BaconShelf on September 15, 2015, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: Orion on September 15, 2015, 01:26:46 PM
Don't see the point in killing characters if they don't have the integrity to make them stay dead.

It's no better than the ending to Twilight.

Except it serves a purpose in the plot. If Jon is the true warrior of the light, then his death is good. As a member of the Night's Watch, he vowed to father no children, swear no allegiance and never abandon his watch from now until his death. He has died, and, if R+L=J is true, that once again makes him eligible for control of the the Iron Throne, and thus overall the saviour of the realm.

GRRM plans things out, he doesn't kill off characters without reason.
Kinda contradicts Martin's themes of realism to have everything wrapped up in a nice little bow like a fairytale though.

Not saying that the resurrection of Jon is implausible, but the theory of him swooping in and saving the day just comes off as too sickly sweet to be believable. Remember how we all thought Ned was going to be the protagonist of the series, then subsequently Robb? Yeah.

The thing is, he still has a story to tell. It's also a fantasy series, it just has some more edge and darkness to it. I'd probably think of it as the "Watchmen" of fantasy books, describing the realism and horrors of war, the politics, etc.

I know, I never said he would never come back. I just think the whole "Jon becomes king and kills all the White Walkers" doesn't seem like something that would coincide with Martin's themes.