'Villains' that did literally nothing wrong

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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
I take it that's why when he was to be put under arrest and brought to trial before the Galactic Senate he killed everyone in the room?
>trial via the Jedi
>democratic

hue
>Not understanding that the Galactic Senate is not run by the Jedi.
>thinking the Jedi and the Senate aren't in bed together

good goy
>Thinking the Senate is in bed with the Jedi when the Senate is run by a Sith Lord.
>run
>was on emergency powers
>Was easily able to make himself Emperor by just making a speech
exactly why he's so based
>Is a tyrant
>claiming that's what makes him not a villain
>is persuasive
>somehow that makes him tyrannical
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions
>has cloned child soldiers that want to leave the army and live a normal life killed by Special Operations teams
>caused Galactic Civil war so that he could gain more power of Republic Senate
>slaughters society of ancient warrior monks b/c of ancient feud
>using the EU as canon

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Republic Commando is still canon, ya coont.
>ancient feud
>sith killing millions

hi noelle
What the hell else would they have been doing, dummy?
Not a clue, but it certainly isn't part of the universe anymore.
Old Republic era is still canon, it's mentioned in the movies. The Jedi and Sith used to fight, that's pretty given. Stop using "it isn't canon anymore" as an excuse for your argument being bad, you ignored 3 other points, and the deal with canon consistency has been a hot mess since TCW Animated series came into existence. Really canon only exists as what you think is canon at this point with how convoluted and horribly the situation has been handled.


I mean, holy shit is Lucas just crazy and indecisive.
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    "After Star Wars was released, it became apparent that my story—however many films it took to tell—was only one of thousands that could be told about the characters who inhabit its galaxy. But these were not stories that I was destined to tell. Instead, they would spring from the imagination of other writers, inspired by the glimpse of a galaxy that Star Wars provided. Today, it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga."
    ―George Lucas, from the introduction of Splinter of the Mind's Eye, 1996[src]
There was a feud sure, but it's never exactly explained in the movies. The whole "Sith killing millions" was established in the EU, which was, as we all know, retconned by Disney. You're right in the fact that the EU was one big stinking pile of horseshit that any low grade writer used as a quick cash grab to peddle their mediocre stories, but now that Disney has done us all a favour by starting anew, your arguments are pretty much moot.

If anyone's twisting the lore to suit their own argument, it's you. I intentionally ignored your other points because they're for all intents and purposes, irrelevant to the contemporary universe.
>I'm twisting lore to suit my argument
>3rd sentence into 1st paragraph of your response is twisting the meaning of a quote I copied into something
that I didn't even imply

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>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
>has cloned child soldiers that want to leave the army and live a normal life killed by Special Operations teams
>caused Galactic Civil war so that he could gain more power of Republic Senate
>slaughters society of ancient warrior monks b/c of ancient feud
Yeah, that's all so irrelevant and doesn't tie into the universe at all.


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It's not though
IIRC, Disney said if EU shit was mentioned in the movies or the cartoon show, it's canon.
They said if any material from the EU was used,, then those specific parts would be canon.

Republic Commando isn't canon.
So what Delta Squad is canon but the events of Republic Commando aren't?


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the fuck is your problem tonight?

Maybe Sandy is tired of fucking retarded posters here bitching about his completely reasonable post size.

I mean, fuck. I've seen 4 or 5 different posts about it today.

>Reasonable

>Writes an essay to a question needing no more than a few sentences

That's what people make fun of/get tired about. Yeah, I literally skim through half of his shit because much of it is redundant or so introspective I literally stop fucking caring. I don't need to hear the details of why he came to that conclusion over his 20 years of life, just give me the fucking conclusion.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
It's not though
IIRC, Disney said if EU shit was mentioned in the movies or the cartoon show, it's canon.
They said if any material from the EU was used,, then those specific parts would be canon.

Republic Commando isn't canon.
They were in the fucking shitty TV show, it counts as acknowledging them in the canon.


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It's not though
IIRC, Disney said if EU shit was mentioned in the movies or the cartoon show, it's canon.
They said if any material from the EU was used,, then those specific parts would be canon.

Republic Commando isn't canon.
They were in the fucking shitty TV show, it counts as acknowledging them in the canon.
Delta Squad is canon. The Republic Commando game isn't.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
It's not though
IIRC, Disney said if EU shit was mentioned in the movies or the cartoon show, it's canon.
They said if any material from the EU was used,, then those specific parts would be canon.

Republic Commando isn't canon.
They were in the fucking shitty TV show, it counts as acknowledging them in the canon.
Delta Squad is canon. The Republic Commando game isn't.
That is the dumbest fucking thing I have heard this past week.


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It's not though
IIRC, Disney said if EU shit was mentioned in the movies or the cartoon show, it's canon.
They said if any material from the EU was used,, then those specific parts would be canon.

Republic Commando isn't canon.
They were in the fucking shitty TV show, it counts as acknowledging them in the canon.
Delta Squad is canon. The Republic Commando game isn't.

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>I'm twisting lore to suit my argument
>3rd sentence into 1st paragraph of your response is twisting the meaning of a quote I copied into something
that I didn't even imply
Not sure what you're even trying to say at this point. All I know is you made an erroneous statement about canon that objectively doesn't exist anymore, I called you out, and now you're damage controlling. Quite pathetically at that, might I add.
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Yeah, that's all so irrelevant and doesn't tie into the universe at all.
It isn't. Only your third and fourth point are canonically relevant, with the fourth point being extremely ambiguous since we no longer know what caused the feud between the two factions.
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It's not though
IIRC, Disney said if EU shit was mentioned in the movies or the cartoon show, it's canon.
They said if any material from the EU was used,, then those specific parts would be canon.

Republic Commando isn't canon.
They were in the fucking shitty TV show, it counts as acknowledging them in the canon.
Delta Squad is canon. The Republic Commando game isn't.
That is the dumbest fucking thing I have heard this past week.
What, just because you don't like it?

Unless what happened in Republic Commando is used in future material, it's not canon.


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I take it that's why when he was to be put under arrest and brought to trial before the Galactic Senate he killed everyone in the room?
>trial via the Jedi
>democratic

hue
>Not understanding that the Galactic Senate is not run by the Jedi.
>thinking the Jedi and the Senate aren't in bed together

good goy
>Thinking the Senate is in bed with the Jedi when the Senate is run by a Sith Lord.
>run
>was on emergency powers
>Was easily able to make himself Emperor by just making a speech
exactly why he's so based
>Is a tyrant
>claiming that's what makes him not a villain
>is persuasive
>somehow that makes him tyrannical
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions
>has cloned child soldiers that want to leave the army and live a normal life killed by Special Operations teams
>caused Galactic Civil war so that he could gain more power of Republic Senate
>slaughters society of ancient warrior monks b/c of ancient feud
>using the EU as canon

maximum discardment

STOP

WITH

THE ARROWS

YOU AREN'T FUNNY

IN FACT

YOU LOOK RETARDED


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Lol at all these Disney pegboys shilling out
>wanting a canonical clusterfuck of contradictions written by Lucas and a team of other equally hack writers

I bet you enjoyed Jedi Rocks.
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It's not though
IIRC, Disney said if EU shit was mentioned in the movies or the cartoon show, it's canon.
They said if any material from the EU was used,, then those specific parts would be canon.

Republic Commando isn't canon.
They were in the fucking shitty TV show, it counts as acknowledging them in the canon.
Delta Squad is canon. The Republic Commando game isn't.

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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
>I'm twisting lore to suit my argument
>3rd sentence into 1st paragraph of your response is twisting the meaning of a quote I copied into something
that I didn't even imply
Not sure what you're even trying to say at this point. All I know is you made an erroneous statement about canon that objectively doesn't exist anymore, I called you out, and now you're damage controlling. Quite pathetically at that, might I add.
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Yeah, that's all so irrelevant and doesn't tie into the universe at all.
It isn't. Only your third and fourth point are canonically relevant, with the fourth point being extremely ambiguous since we no longer know what caused the feud between the two factions.
>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?

Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?

Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
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>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.

So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
It's not though
IIRC, Disney said if EU shit was mentioned in the movies or the cartoon show, it's canon.
They said if any material from the EU was used,, then those specific parts would be canon.

Republic Commando isn't canon.
They were in the fucking shitty TV show, it counts as acknowledging them in the canon.
Delta Squad is canon. The Republic Commando game isn't.
That is the dumbest fucking thing I have heard this past week.
What, just because you don't like it?

Unless what happened in Republic Commando is used in future material, it's not canon.
So, unless they explicitly go over and say every single thing that happened in Republic Commando, it's not canon?

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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Lol at all these Disney pegboys shilling out
>wanting a canonical clusterfuck of contradictions written by Lucas and a team of other equally hack writers

I bet you enjoyed Jedi Rocks.
>liking the canonical clusterfuck of contradictions created by Lucas in the movies and his team of shitty writers that made the shitty TCW animated series.


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Lol at all these Disney pegboys shilling out
>wanting a canonical clusterfuck of contradictions written by Lucas and a team of other equally hack writers

I bet you enjoyed Jedi Rocks.
Lol keep bending over for Uncle Walt

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>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?
Objectively not canon?

If you want to go full autismus maximus here, sure, the EU exists in the sense that the material can still be read and "enjoyed." It doesn't however, exist in the sense that's actually part of the lore anymore. Hence my statement that you took out of context.
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Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?
>takes my statement out of context
>I'm the one putting words in mouths
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Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
Quote me a line of dialogue in the prequels or OT where this was actually stated. And I don't mean just a "hurr durr de sif r ebil becus." I actually mean the "killing millions" part, in crystal clear exposition.
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So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?
If it was actually canon, which it's fucking not for the millionth time.


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Lol at all these Disney pegboys shilling out
>wanting a canonical clusterfuck of contradictions written by Lucas and a team of other equally hack writers

I bet you enjoyed Jedi Rocks.
>liking the canonical clusterfuck of contradictions created by Lucas in the movies and his team of shitty writers that made the shitty TCW animated series.
What the fuck are you talking about? The prequels? Where in this discussion did I ever say I enjoyed them?

I acknowledge they're canon sure, but that's not tantamount to actually liking them. Something you seem unable to discern.
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There were way more than fifty kids in the temple when he fucked it up.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?
Objectively not canon?

If you want to go full autismus maximus here, sure, the EU exists in the sense that the material can still be read and "enjoyed." It doesn't however, exist in the sense that's actually part of the lore anymore. Hence my statement that you took out of context.
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Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?
>takes my statement out of context
>I'm the one putting words in mouths
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Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
Quote me a line of dialogue in the prequels or OT where this was actually stated. And I don't mean just a "hurr durr de sif r ebil becus." I actually mean the "killing millions" part, in crystal clear exposition.
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So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?
If it was actually canon, which it's fucking not for the millionth time.
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Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon.

Nice evasion there.

Forgot to put the line through the millions part the second time I posted that because you couldn't read it the first, my bad. Also,
>"Dis nigga seriously defending the Sith, saying they aren't bad guys?"

Oh, okay you are right. Palps just killed them all for no real reason given, which is much morally better.


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>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?
Objectively not canon?

If you want to go full autismus maximus here, sure, the EU exists in the sense that the material can still be read and "enjoyed." It doesn't however, exist in the sense that's actually part of the lore anymore. Hence my statement that you took out of context.
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Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?
>takes my statement out of context
>I'm the one putting words in mouths
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Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
Quote me a line of dialogue in the prequels or OT where this was actually stated. And I don't mean just a "hurr durr de sif r ebil becus." I actually mean the "killing millions" part, in crystal clear exposition.
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So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?
If it was actually canon, which it's fucking not for the millionth time.
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Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon.

Nice evasion there.

Forgot to put the line through the millions part the second time I posted that because you couldn't read it the first, my bad. Also,
>"Dis nigga seriously defending the Sith, saying they aren't bad guys?"

Oh, okay you are right. Palps just killed them all for no real reason given, which is much morally better.
>scoring a line through a sentence like a fourth grader
>not manning up and admitting you fucked up

This whole argument could've been resolved if you had just been slightly more mature and didn't try to damage control your way out of it.

Also I'm not defending anything. I'm simply questioning the moral stance of the Jedi and The Republic. Seeing as how the EU actually gave us a backstory between the Jedi and Sith (and a questionable one at that), and seeing as how it no longer exists in a canonical context, all we're given in the movies is "the sith are bad because." Which in and of itself, isn't necessarily bad since Star Wars was originally meant to be a medieval knights tale in space. That is, until Lucas had to be a hack and whore the franchise out.
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>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?
Objectively not canon?

If you want to go full autismus maximus here, sure, the EU exists in the sense that the material can still be read and "enjoyed." It doesn't however, exist in the sense that's actually part of the lore anymore. Hence my statement that you took out of context.
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Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?
>takes my statement out of context
>I'm the one putting words in mouths
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Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
Quote me a line of dialogue in the prequels or OT where this was actually stated. And I don't mean just a "hurr durr de sif r ebil becus." I actually mean the "killing millions" part, in crystal clear exposition.
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So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?
If it was actually canon, which it's fucking not for the millionth time.
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Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon.

Nice evasion there.

Forgot to put the line through the millions part the second time I posted that because you couldn't read it the first, my bad. Also,
>"Dis nigga seriously defending the Sith, saying they aren't bad guys?"

Oh, okay you are right. Palps just killed them all for no real reason given, which is much morally better.
>scoring a line through a sentence like a fourth grader
>not manning up and admitting you fucked up

This whole argument could've been resolved if you had just been slightly more mature and didn't try to damage control your way out of it.

Also I'm not defending anything. I'm simply questioning the moral stance of the Jedi and The Republic. Seeing as how the EU actually gave us a backstory between the Jedi and Sith (and a questionable one at that), and seeing as how it no longer exists in a canonical context, all we're given in the movies is "the sith are bad because." Which in and of itself, isn't necessarily bad since Star Wars was originally meant to be a medieval knights tale in space, until Lucas had to be a hack and whore the franchise out.

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>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?
Objectively not canon?

If you want to go full autismus maximus here, sure, the EU exists in the sense that the material can still be read and "enjoyed." It doesn't however, exist in the sense that's actually part of the lore anymore. Hence my statement that you took out of context.
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Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?
>takes my statement out of context
>I'm the one putting words in mouths
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Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
Quote me a line of dialogue in the prequels or OT where this was actually stated. And I don't mean just a "hurr durr de sif r ebil becus." I actually mean the "killing millions" part, in crystal clear exposition.
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So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?
If it was actually canon, which it's fucking not for the millionth time.
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Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon.

Nice evasion there.

Forgot to put the line through the millions part the second time I posted that because you couldn't read it the first, my bad. Also,
>"Dis nigga seriously defending the Sith, saying they aren't bad guys?"

Oh, okay you are right. Palps just killed them all for no real reason given, which is much morally better.
>scoring a line through a sentence like a fourth grader
>not manning up and admitting you fucked up

This whole argument could've been resolved if you had just been slightly more mature and didn't try to damage control your way out of it.

Also I'm not defending anything. I'm simply questioning the moral stance of the Jedi and The Republic. Seeing as how the EU actually gave us a backstory between the Jedi and Sith (and a questionable one at that), and seeing as how it no longer exists in a canonical context, all we're given in the movies is "the sith are bad because." Which in and of itself, isn't necessarily bad since Star Wars was originally meant to be a medieval knights tale in space, until Lucas had to be a hack and whore the franchise out.

>ITT butthurt fagit got REKT is butthurt
"this happened"
"no it didn't"
"omg yes it did"

"HAHA LE BUTTHURD GOT REKD EX DEE DEE DEE"

lmao, okay. isn't it prime time for browsing reddit now?


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>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?
Objectively not canon?

If you want to go full autismus maximus here, sure, the EU exists in the sense that the material can still be read and "enjoyed." It doesn't however, exist in the sense that's actually part of the lore anymore. Hence my statement that you took out of context.
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Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?
>takes my statement out of context
>I'm the one putting words in mouths
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Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
Quote me a line of dialogue in the prequels or OT where this was actually stated. And I don't mean just a "hurr durr de sif r ebil becus." I actually mean the "killing millions" part, in crystal clear exposition.
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So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?
If it was actually canon, which it's fucking not for the millionth time.
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Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon.

Nice evasion there.

Forgot to put the line through the millions part the second time I posted that because you couldn't read it the first, my bad. Also,
>"Dis nigga seriously defending the Sith, saying they aren't bad guys?"

Oh, okay you are right. Palps just killed them all for no real reason given, which is much morally better.
>scoring a line through a sentence like a fourth grader
>not manning up and admitting you fucked up

This whole argument could've been resolved if you had just been slightly more mature and didn't try to damage control your way out of it.

Also I'm not defending anything. I'm simply questioning the moral stance of the Jedi and The Republic. Seeing as how the EU actually gave us a backstory between the Jedi and Sith (and a questionable one at that), and seeing as how it no longer exists in a canonical context, all we're given in the movies is "the sith are bad because." Which in and of itself, isn't necessarily bad since Star Wars was originally meant to be a medieval knights tale in space, until Lucas had to be a hack and whore the franchise out.

>ITT butthurt fagit got REKT is butthurt
"this happened"
"no it didn't"
"omg yes it did"

"HAHA LE BUTTHURD GOT REKD EX DEE DEE DEE"

lmao, okay. isn't it prime time for browsing reddit now?

You can try to deny it all you want (if it lets you sleep any better), but the facts are you got fucking REKT.

Stay mad, pussy faggot


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>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?
Objectively not canon?

If you want to go full autismus maximus here, sure, the EU exists in the sense that the material can still be read and "enjoyed." It doesn't however, exist in the sense that's actually part of the lore anymore. Hence my statement that you took out of context.
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Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?
>takes my statement out of context
>I'm the one putting words in mouths
Quote
Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
Quote me a line of dialogue in the prequels or OT where this was actually stated. And I don't mean just a "hurr durr de sif r ebil becus." I actually mean the "killing millions" part, in crystal clear exposition.
Quote
So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?
If it was actually canon, which it's fucking not for the millionth time.
Quote
Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon.

Nice evasion there.

Forgot to put the line through the millions part the second time I posted that because you couldn't read it the first, my bad. Also,
>"Dis nigga seriously defending the Sith, saying they aren't bad guys?"

Oh, okay you are right. Palps just killed them all for no real reason given, which is much morally better.
>scoring a line through a sentence like a fourth grader
>not manning up and admitting you fucked up

This whole argument could've been resolved if you had just been slightly more mature and didn't try to damage control your way out of it.

Also I'm not defending anything. I'm simply questioning the moral stance of the Jedi and The Republic. Seeing as how the EU actually gave us a backstory between the Jedi and Sith (and a questionable one at that), and seeing as how it no longer exists in a canonical context, all we're given in the movies is "the sith are bad because." Which in and of itself, isn't necessarily bad since Star Wars was originally meant to be a medieval knights tale in space, until Lucas had to be a hack and whore the franchise out.

>ITT butthurt fagit got REKT is butthurt
"this happened"
"no it didn't"
"omg yes it did"

"HAHA LE BUTTHURD GOT REKD EX DEE DEE DEE"

lmao, okay. isn't it prime time for browsing reddit now?

You can try to deny it all you want (if it lets you sleep any better), but the facts are you got fucking REKT.

Stay mad, pussy faggot
If what constitutes as a "rek" or whatever meme buzzword you guys are currently using right now is tantamount to repeating the same points and admitting you made a mistake, then it must be pretty easy to "rek" someone here.


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>Objectively doesn't exist anymore
Whut r Legends?
Objectively not canon?

If you want to go full autismus maximus here, sure, the EU exists in the sense that the material can still be read and "enjoyed." It doesn't however, exist in the sense that's actually part of the lore anymore. Hence my statement that you took out of context.
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Could you seriously not figure out that I called you out for putting words in my mouth, or have you yet to realize you did that?
>takes my statement out of context
>I'm the one putting words in mouths
Quote
Except, you know unless you're seriously daft, this one is pretty obviously canonically relevant.
>murders people that want him tried for being the leader of an ancient cult that used to commonly kill millions was freaking evil.
Quote me a line of dialogue in the prequels or OT where this was actually stated. And I don't mean just a "hurr durr de sif r ebil becus." I actually mean the "killing millions" part, in crystal clear exposition.
Quote
So, Palpatine could be absolved of his crimes of ordering the death of thousands of warrior-monks that were serving the Republic because some ancient feud means that the Jedi had it coming?
If it was actually canon, which it's fucking not for the millionth time.
Quote
Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon.

Nice evasion there.

Forgot to put the line through the millions part the second time I posted that because you couldn't read it the first, my bad. Also,
>"Dis nigga seriously defending the Sith, saying they aren't bad guys?"

Oh, okay you are right. Palps just killed them all for no real reason given, which is much morally better.
>scoring a line through a sentence like a fourth grader
>not manning up and admitting you fucked up

This whole argument could've been resolved if you had just been slightly more mature and didn't try to damage control your way out of it.

Also I'm not defending anything. I'm simply questioning the moral stance of the Jedi and The Republic. Seeing as how the EU actually gave us a backstory between the Jedi and Sith (and a questionable one at that), and seeing as how it no longer exists in a canonical context, all we're given in the movies is "the sith are bad because." Which in and of itself, isn't necessarily bad since Star Wars was originally meant to be a medieval knights tale in space, until Lucas had to be a hack and whore the franchise out.

>ITT butthurt fagit got REKT is butthurt
"this happened"
"no it didn't"
"omg yes it did"

"HAHA LE BUTTHURD GOT REKD EX DEE DEE DEE"

lmao, okay. isn't it prime time for browsing reddit now?

You can try to deny it all you want (if it lets you sleep any better), but the facts are you got fucking REKT.

Stay mad, pussy faggot
If what constitutes as a "rek" or whatever meme buzzword you guys are currently using right now is tantamount to repeating the same points and admitting you made a mistake, then it must be pretty easy to "rek" someone here.

Stop trying to skirt the fact you got your asshole loosened, k? You got dicked, son