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I have a god-tier diet with very low sugar and no processed foods whatsoever.
Really? Are you in ketosis then? My ketone levels were high enough that my doctor was worried I'd end up in the hospital. We wanted me to try and get some amount of sugar back into my diet, but I feel much better when I'm in ketosis. A lot better than if I have even small amounts of sugar.

No I only get sugars from fruits but I have carbs to rely on.


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
For someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.

What condition do you have?
Something called Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth.

If you wanna know:
People usually get the beginning stages of it from antibiotics wiping out the good bacteria in their gut, which allows antibiotic resistant bacteria to start colonizing your intestines. It starts more in the colon, giving people IBS or even Colitis but with a very poor diet and general lifestyle it can make its way into your small intestine. Once that happens you can't really process sugar and carbs anymore because the bacteria (and fungi like yeast as well) feeds on it like crazy and it wreaks havoc on the rest of your body producing exotoxins and mycotoxins that circulate throughout your bloodsteam, which can give you all manner of problems like arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, muscle cramps, chronic fatigue and inflammation, depression and anxeity. Not to mention all the digestive problems you'll have.

You can eliminate it with a very strict diet, high levels of probiotics, and anti-microbial supplements, but you have to go through hell during that process, since killing the overgrowth causes it to basically release all the toxins it was slowly secreting in a much bigger 'dose' you could say. Something called a Herxheimer reaction. Which could actually really damage your liver and kidneys so you have to be very careful. People with other infections diseases like Lyme disease go through the same process and it can actually kill you if you kill too much too fast with certain infections.

So after a bit of research it looks like you'd be allowed some beans, tofu and nuts in your case. Lots of ripe fruits and non-starchy vegetables, with some honey to add flavour. That sounds pretty much exactly like my current diet.

https://www.siboinfo.com/diet.html
No I can't have any of those. Especially the honey. I have an extremely severe case of SIBO. One of the absolute worst cases you can get tbh. If I was to eat any of those I would be in a lot of terrible pain. Trust me, I've done a lot of experimentation with which foods I can tolerate and I'm literally at the point where I can only tolerate poultry, fish, and a few vegetables like yellow squash and spinach.

Is this what your doctors are recommending?
My doctor isn't a nutritionist unfortunately. I have to basically go by how my body reacts to certain foods. That's how it goes for digestive disorders like mine because each individual case is different. No two people have the exact same strains or levels of bacteria/fungi in their gut. It's bad enough that we were going to start trying glucose infusions to get some sugar in me without having to eat it because it would just feed the overgrowth otherwise.
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For someone with a health condition like mine, eliminating meat would reduce my protein options to virtually zero. Not until they manage to create some edible food substance that contains the required levels of protein with minimal to no levels of carbs, starches, sugars etc. and make it commercially available.

What condition do you have?
Something called Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth.

If you wanna know:
People usually get the beginning stages of it from antibiotics wiping out the good bacteria in their gut, which allows antibiotic resistant bacteria to start colonizing your intestines. It starts more in the colon, giving people IBS or even Colitis but with a very poor diet and general lifestyle it can make its way into your small intestine. Once that happens you can't really process sugar and carbs anymore because the bacteria (and fungi like yeast as well) feeds on it like crazy and it wreaks havoc on the rest of your body producing exotoxins and mycotoxins that circulate throughout your bloodsteam, which can give you all manner of problems like arthritis, fibromyalgia, migraines, muscle cramps, chronic fatigue and inflammation, depression and anxeity. Not to mention all the digestive problems you'll have.

You can eliminate it with a very strict diet, high levels of probiotics, and anti-microbial supplements, but you have to go through hell during that process, since killing the overgrowth causes it to basically release all the toxins it was slowly secreting in a much bigger 'dose' you could say. Something called a Herxheimer reaction. Which could actually really damage your liver and kidneys so you have to be very careful. People with other infections diseases like Lyme disease go through the same process and it can actually kill you if you kill too much too fast with certain infections.

So after a bit of research it looks like you'd be allowed some beans, tofu and nuts in your case. Lots of ripe fruits and non-starchy vegetables, with some honey to add flavour. That sounds pretty much exactly like my current diet.

https://www.siboinfo.com/diet.html
No I can't have any of those. Especially the honey. I have an extremely severe case of SIBO. One of the absolute worst cases you can get tbh. If I was to eat any of those I would be in a lot of terrible pain. Trust me, I've done a lot of experimentation with which foods I can tolerate and I'm literally at the point where I can only tolerate poultry, fish, and a few vegetables like yellow squash and spinach.

Is this what your doctors are recommending?
My doctor isn't a nutritionist unfortunately. I have to basically go by how my body reacts to certain foods. That's how it goes for digestive disorders like mine because each individual case is different. No two people have the exact same strains or levels of bacteria/fingi in their gut. It's bad enough that we were going to start trying glucose infusions to get some sugar in me without having to eat it because it would just feed the overgrowth otherwise.

Well I'd look into it further, but I can tell your from my own experience that if you're only getting your protein from a few sources you're training your body to only extract protein from those sources, which could cyclically affect your illness. My body rejected soy off the bat too (I'd been avoiding it for so long because I mistakeningly thought it would combat my raising testosterone levels) but after a few days your body instantly remembers where to put the nutrients and it's just another part of my diet. Even nuts shouldn't be a problem for you.


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
No I only get sugars from fruits but I have carbs to rely on.
Ah, personally I wouldn't necessarily call that a low sugar diet as most fruits contain a healthy amount of sugar and carbs turn into sugar in your body anyways. What would be considered a normal intake of sugar for the average person here, I would consider an extremely high intake. Anyone who eats or drinks anything with high fructose corn syrup for instance is almost certainly taking in too much sugar. Unfortunately that shit is in just about everything in the US.

 Depending on how your carb intake is I would say you're probably at the level the average person should be having.


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Well I'd look into it further, but I can tell your from my own experience that if you're only getting your protein from a few sources you're training your body to only extract protein from those sources, which could cyclically affect your illness. My body rejected soy off the bat too (I'd been avoiding it for so long because I mistakeningly thought it would combat my raising testosterone levels) but after a few days your body instantly remembers where to put the nutrients and it's just another part of my diet. Even nuts shouldn't be a problem for you.
It's very important that I start diversifying my diet, but I can't do that until I've eliminated the overgrowth to a certain point. Otherwise I will only feed it and end up getting even more sick. This is an extremely tricky health condition to overcome, unfortunately.


 
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No I only get sugars from fruits but I have carbs to rely on.
Ah, personally I wouldn't necessarily call that a low sugar diet as most fruits contain a healthy amount of sugar and carbs turn into sugar in your body anyways. What would be considered a normal intake of sugar for the average person here, I would consider an extremely high intake. Anyone who eats or drinks anything with high fructose corn syrup for instance is almost certainly taking in too much sugar. Unfortunately that shit is in just about everything in the US.

 Depending on how your carb intake is I would say you're probably at the level the average person should be having.

Yeah, a healthy amount of carbs and sugars is a low sugar diet. The carbs are just for bulking atm, I plan to cut them out more in a few months time (and the sugar from fruit I burn off immediately anyway).

I'd see a nutritionist if I was you. It sounds pretty far above either of our paygrades to deal with.
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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
No I only get sugars from fruits but I have carbs to rely on.
Ah, personally I wouldn't necessarily call that a low sugar diet as most fruits contain a healthy amount of sugar and carbs turn into sugar in your body anyways. What would be considered a normal intake of sugar for the average person here, I would consider an extremely high intake. Anyone who eats or drinks anything with high fructose corn syrup for instance is almost certainly taking in too much sugar. Unfortunately that shit is in just about everything in the US.

 Depending on how your carb intake is I would say you're probably at the level the average person should be having.

Yeah, a healthy amount of carbs and sugars is a low sugar diet. The carbs are just for bulking atm, I plan to cut them out more in a few months time (and the sugar from fruit I burn off immediately anyway).

I'd see a nutritionist if I was you. It sounds pretty far above either of our paygrades to deal with.
What you call a low intake, I guess I would call a healthy intake. To each his own, I suppose.

Can't go see any doctor atm, sadly, because I have no insurance. There's actually a rather new but supposedly effective method for treating gut biome problems like mine that is essentially taking the flora from a healthy person and putting it into a supplement for someone like me to take but it isn't something any doctor around here in bumfuck boonieville would even know about, much less actually be able to try.


 
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That's fine if you've never heard of it but that doesn't mean it's not a thing.
It's not a country like Uruguay or Argentina which are world renowned when it comes to beef. That's my point.

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Why would a cow from one farm taste different from another farm if they're raised and cultivated the same way?
Because they're not raised the same way, that's why some farmers markets have shit that tastes the same as the supermarket.


 
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That's fine if you've never heard of it but that doesn't mean it's not a thing.
It's not a country like Uruguay or Argentina which are world renowned when it comes to beef. That's my point.

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Why would a cow from one farm taste different from another farm if they're raised and cultivated the same way?
Because they're not raised the same way, that's why some farmers markets have shit that tastes the same as the supermarket.

My question was in reference to why the meat I ate randomly tasted worse than your meat even though they're cultivated the same way.


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That's fine if you've never heard of it but that doesn't mean it's not a thing.
It's not a country like Uruguay or Argentina which are world renowned when it comes to beef. That's my point.

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Why would a cow from one farm taste different from another farm if they're raised and cultivated the same way?
Because they're not raised the same way, that's why some farmers markets have shit that tastes the same as the supermarket.

My question was in reference to why the meat I ate randomly tasted worse than your meat even though they're cultivated the same way.
Maybe you two just like different things


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument


 
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That's fine if you've never heard of it but that doesn't mean it's not a thing.
It's not a country like Uruguay or Argentina which are world renowned when it comes to beef. That's my point.

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Why would a cow from one farm taste different from another farm if they're raised and cultivated the same way?
Because they're not raised the same way, that's why some farmers markets have shit that tastes the same as the supermarket.

My question was in reference to why the meat I ate randomly tasted worse than your meat even though they're cultivated the same way.
Because it likely wasn't cultivated the same way and so it wasn't as tasty.


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
that's not what i'm saying, i'm just using your own logic against you in order to demonstrate how it doesn't work

in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology

or a definitive statement one way or the other
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them


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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?
most people have something wrong with them


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?
most people have something wrong with them
yawn


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?
most people have something wrong with them
yawn
you can't think of one culture in the world where you would say "yeah all these people are fucked"


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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.

Have you ever tried meat that isn't seasoned and/or altered in some way? It tastes awful in my opinion, although I'm not really a big meat-eater to begin with.


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?
most people have something wrong with them
yawn
you can't think of one culture in the world where you would say "yeah all these people are fucked"
Nope, and I don't see what that has to do with you classifying eating raw meat as a mental disorder.

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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?
most people have something wrong with them
yawn
you can't think of one culture in the world where you would say "yeah all these people are fucked"
Nope, and I don't see what that has to do with you classifying eating raw meat as a mental disorder.

In humans, coprophagia has been observed in individuals with mental illnesses
It's associated with Schizo of all things... that's interesting. I'll have to look into why that is.


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?
most people have something wrong with them
yawn
you can't think of one culture in the world where you would say "yeah all these people are fucked"
Nope, and I don't see what that has to do with you classifying eating raw meat as a mental disorder.

In humans, coprophagia has been observed in individuals with mental illnesses
you do with muslims

lots of things can be observed in people with mental illnesses


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?
most people have something wrong with them
yawn
you can't think of one culture in the world where you would say "yeah all these people are fucked"
Nope, and I don't see what that has to do with you classifying eating raw meat as a mental disorder.

In humans, coprophagia has been observed in individuals with mental illnesses
you do with muslims

lots of things can be observed in people with mental illnesses
LOL

I've said time and time again my problem is with Islam (and religion) itself.

At this point you're just moving the goalposts. You know I'm right, it just kills you inside to say "yeah good point". It's not like I'm saying you or snake are wrong about being vegan per se, it's that this specific argument is garbage.


 
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I am trying to give up meat.

No beef or pork, but chicken is too hard to resist.

Just remember meat only taste good because of the seasoning/curing it goes through post-harvest. If you repeat the same process with something like tofu it tastes excellent as well. There's nothing inherently good tasting about animal carcass.
I eat everything raw. i.e unseasoned. I let the food add flavour to itself.

Unless you're buying all of your meat directly from the guy who killed the cow, it's been flavoured already. Why do you think it tastes so good?
if this is flavoured, then holy shit what does it takes like raw?

Chicken on its own is literally chewy rubber.

Yeah, violently butchered creatures taste bad. Who would have thought?
What're you trying to imitate Verbatim for? Everything you find good-tasting has a reason for tasting so good. If animals tasted like crap, there'd be no reason for traditional families' menus to be so reliant on meat. It's on the menu because it tastes good because it provides a lot of nutrients.
we wouldn't have to cook meat first if it didn't taste like shit basally
but carpaccio is delicious
there are people who eat shit

there are people who eat shit, puke it up, and then eat it up again

and they enjoy it

this is why "taste" arguments are a complete waste of time and shouldn't be a factor in these discussions

it doesn't mean anything to enjoy or not enjoy something, nobody cares
And I made my point by stating that these people have a mental disorder.

Raw meat is tasty and healthy. Should we stop killing so many animals just for food? Probably yeah, but don't make these dumb arguments about how it isn't healthy or that it tastes bad etc.
i would describe enjoying raw meat as a mental disorder
But you'd be wrong, and it's just you making an emotional argument. If you want to make an emotional argument, stick to the fact that killing animals for food is shitty. Don't make these lame arguments.
neither of those are emotional arguments

they can be expressed emotionally, but that doesn't make them an emotional argument

you've always struggled with this
Ok so show me your degree in psychology and how you came to the conclusion that eating raw meat is a mental disorder. Something humans and animals have been doing since he beginning of time, until recently where we discovered fire and found out it made meat taste better and last longer.
why do i need a psychology degree to say eating raw meat and enjoying it is a mental disorder, but you don't need one to say that eating puke-shit and enjoying it is a mental disorder

i guess because we've been doing it since we were cavemen

and cavemen were brilliant

they're well-known for their high intelligence and had no mental problems whatsoever
Because the people who eat shit have something mentally wrong with them. That's a fact, you're not supposed eat poop. You are supposed to eat animals and plants.
restating the premise is not the same as supporting your argument
So you are supposed to eat poop?
in order for anyone to definitively say otherwise, according to you, i would need a degree in psychology
Not at all my slippery friend. To say eating raw meat is a mental disorder is to go against mountains of evidence that point to the contrary, so I'd like to see how you came to this outlandish conclusion.
i think you have as much evidence about shit-eaters as i do about raw meat-eaters

which is to say, nothing but anecdotes and personal experience

i've never met someone who enjoys eating raw meat that i wouldn't classify as having something wrong with them
So Italians all have something wrong with them?
most people have something wrong with them
yawn
you can't think of one culture in the world where you would say "yeah all these people are fucked"
Nope, and I don't see what that has to do with you classifying eating raw meat as a mental disorder.

In humans, coprophagia has been observed in individuals with mental illnesses
you do with muslims

lots of things can be observed in people with mental illnesses
LOL

I've said time and time again my problem is with Islam (and religion) itself.

At this point you're just moving the goalposts. You know I'm right, it just kills you inside to say "yeah good point". It's not like I'm saying you or snake are wrong about being vegan per se, it's that this specific argument is garbage.
it would be out of character for me to say "yeah good point" before any such good point were made