It doesn't matter if God is cruel or not, as an omniscient being he is objectively moral and what actions he makes in his interests are ultimately the most purposeful.thank god there's no reason to care about him existing though lol
Quote from: eggsalad on June 09, 2015, 06:15:51 PMIt doesn't matter if God is cruel or not, as an omniscient being he is objectively moral and what actions he makes in his interests are ultimately the most purposeful.I don't see how that follows.
It doesn't matter if God is cruel or not, as an omniscient being he is objectively moral and what actions he makes in his interests are ultimately the most purposeful.
the omnipotence/omniscience paradox comes to mindnot to mention, the epicurean paradoxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil#Logical_problem_of_evil
yeah i'm not disputing the formerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil#.22Evil.22_suggests_an_ethical_lawI think this is the defense I most agreed with after a skim.
Quote from: eggsalad on June 09, 2015, 06:35:52 PMyeah i'm not disputing the formerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil#.22Evil.22_suggests_an_ethical_lawI think this is the defense I most agreed with after a skim.>ethical standard>needing goddo you even ethical non-naturalism?
is it controversial of me to think that religious philosophy is by definition bullshit?
- Whether or not the world is deterministic or indeterministic is largely irrelevant to discussions of free will, although I lean toward deterministic.
Politics:- Freedom is desirable because it encourages responsibility and self-reliance, not because freedom is intrinsically valuable. - Coursework is more important than examinations.- The Iraq War was justified, and will prove beneficial for Iraq in the long-term. - Obama's foreign policy has been an absolute joke. - Feminism is a joke, and distracts Western societies from the very real plight of women in Africa and the Middle East. - All drugs should be legalised.Economics: - Almost everybody except a small group of monetarists got the Recession wrong.- Inflation as high as 10pc can be justified in economic downturns. - Talking about interest rates in terms of monetary policy is almost useless. - Redistributing wealth will just tend to make people poorer.
willfully-unvaccinated people should not be allowed in public spaces.
- Feminism is a joke, and distracts Western societies from the very real plight of women in Africa and the Middle East.
Quote from: Mad Max on June 09, 2015, 07:21:53 PMwillfully-unvaccinated people should not be allowed in public spaces.Define "willfully". There are legitimate medical reasons for some people not to vaccinate.
Quote from: Prime Servitor on June 09, 2015, 08:05:32 PMQuote from: Mad Max on June 09, 2015, 07:21:53 PMwillfully-unvaccinated people should not be allowed in public spaces.Define "willfully". There are legitimate medical reasons for some people not to vaccinate.Right, and I'm not talking about those people. If you have a legitimate medal reason as to why you cannot be vaccinated, fine. If you think OMG AUTISM or MUH BELIEVES then you can fuck right off.
another one:addicts are weak.
Quote from: Mad Max on June 09, 2015, 08:58:19 PManother one:addicts are weak.Do you think people suffering from depression are weak?
eugenics is a good idea; we should root out the weaknesses in our genetics and improve our species as a whole.
Quote from: Azumarill on June 09, 2015, 09:16:52 PMeugenics is a good idea; we should root out the weaknesses in our genetics and improve our species as a whole.You need very specific standards to define "weaknesses", however. Genetic diversity must still be maintained.
eugenics is stupiddon't be stupid
Quote from: Pendulate on June 09, 2015, 09:06:20 PMQuote from: Mad Max on June 09, 2015, 08:58:19 PManother one:addicts are weak.Do you think people suffering from depression are weak?Nope. But you can't just...stop being depressed. You are able to stop drinking, doing drugs, having sex, etc.
It's far more complicated than that. You can't "will" yourself out of addiction any more than you can will yourself out of depression.
unless you don't consider meat-eaters to be addictswhich i do