Would you rather convert or die?

Mr. Psychologist · April 02, 2015, 06:58:53 PM

So say that one day the Necromongers roll into town, or ISIS sets up their caliphate or some other shitty scenario. You are rounded up into your village hall, where a deacon gives you all the choice, you can convert to this religion/sect or you can be executed.

It's a quick clean death, as far as executions go. Bullet to the back of the head, high calibre so you won't be surviving it.

Do you convert to this new religion and survive or do you spit at the deacon and tell him and the rest of his kind to find an inventive way of performing congress with their mothers?

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This isn't a part of the Haram jokes, forced conversions are abhorrent and that goes without saying. I'm just curious as to what sort of convictions people here hold <.<

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Honestly, I'd probably just convert. I value my life more than objecting to paying lip service to some deity that might not exist. If I was religious, I expect that I'd have stronger feelings about this though or if I was a hardline atheist I might too <.<

Comet · April 02, 2015, 07:04:48 PM

die (non martyr) out of spite. fuck you, you cant tell me how to live.

Sandtrap · April 02, 2015, 07:08:41 PM

One part of me would say spit in their face. My twisted side would say hide that. Wait until the right moment and then turn on them as an imposter. Pride should never stand before intelligence.

And that's ISIS's weak spot.

You could do so much damage to them if you put your pride on hold. Converted. And then attacked when you had the cards in your hands.

gats · April 02, 2015, 07:16:38 PM

Can I just convert and then run away somewhere else?

More Than Mortal · April 02, 2015, 07:23:02 PM

I'll die, thanks. The point of my life is not to enable the new brand of fascism.

DAS B00T x2 · April 02, 2015, 07:29:57 PM

Convert. Can't roll with the underground resistance if you're dead.

Mordo · April 02, 2015, 07:53:15 PM

If it's something cool like the Necromongers or The Covenant and I get cool new powers/weaponry then yeah sure.

But if they're mudslimes I'll take my bullet like a fucking man.

Erives · April 02, 2015, 08:01:51 PM

Convert. Then find a way to fight back. Whats the point of dying when you can cleanse them later with several pounds of explosive.

Mattie G Indahouse · April 02, 2015, 08:07:38 PM

Convert. I don't have to believe in their whatever to live.

Naru · April 02, 2015, 08:17:01 PM

Martyr me

For Cordis Die

🍁 Aria 🔮 · April 02, 2015, 10:04:49 PM

Meh. I'd pay lip service, but they can't exactly force me to believe something. Something as silly as a public label isn't worth ending your life over.

Turkey · April 02, 2015, 10:12:57 PM

It depends. If we're just talking about putting on a show or being subservient to a tyrant, fine, but I wouldn't submit to any sort of brainwashing à la 1984.

Verbatim · April 02, 2015, 10:21:40 PM

Bye-bye.

Verbatim · April 02, 2015, 10:24:37 PM

Quote from: Prime Meridia on April 02, 2015, 10:04:49 PM

Meh. I'd pay lip service, but they can't exactly force me to believe something. Something as silly as a public label isn't worth ending your life over.

What's life worth at that point? Something tells me they wouldn't take kindly to being lied to, either.

Raw Sugar · April 02, 2015, 10:28:25 PM

Uhhhh convert obviously. I'm no good to anyone dead. I'd just be putting my own pride before anything else if I chose to die. If I converted then I could like Das mentioned, live to fight another day.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · April 02, 2015, 10:40:24 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 02, 2015, 10:24:37 PM

Quote from: Prime Meridia on April 02, 2015, 10:04:49 PM
Meh. I'd pay lip service, but they can't exactly force me to believe something. Something as silly as a public label isn't worth ending your life over.
What's life worth at that point? Something tells me they wouldn't take kindly to being lied to, either.

You work on extradition, that's what you do. Sing the song and dance while you're in danger, then do whatever later. If all I have to do is pay lip service to the religion, why should I care? Being where I lived in the South for the past few years, I had to pretend to be a hardcore Christian or face being a pariah. Been there, done that; it's not as God awful as it sounds.

Verbatim · April 02, 2015, 10:52:36 PM

Quote from: Prime Meridia on April 02, 2015, 10:40:24 PM

You work on extradition, that's what you do. Sing the song and dance while you're in danger, then do whatever later. If all I have to do is pay lip service to the religion, why should I care? Being where I lived in the South for the past few years, I had to pretend to be a hardcore Christian or face being a pariah. Been there, done that; it's not as God awful as it sounds.

There are simply some things that I'm not willing to compromise. And again, I'm just saying, since we're dealing with Islam here, I would think you'd have to commit a little bit more to the religion than just lip service. If it is, then sure, but... that's simply too big of an assumption when we're talking about some of the most violent and repugnant zealouts out there.

You're not just compromising your free speech here--you're compromising your life either way.
I'd rather be dead.

It being "not as godawful" as it sounds isn't really the point.

Verbatim · April 02, 2015, 10:55:58 PM

If it was rastafarianism, maybe I'd understand...

I also don't know what the hell a necromonger is, but I assumed it had something to do with Islam...

Edit:
I guess not. Ummm. Whatever, then. If it's Islamic extremists, then yeah, peace out.
If it's... I don't fucking know. I hate vague questions.

Comet · April 02, 2015, 11:05:20 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 02, 2015, 10:55:58 PM

If it was rastafarianism, maybe I'd understand...

I also don't know what the hell a necromonger is, but I assumed it had something to do with Islam...

Edit:
I guess not. Ummm. Whatever, then. If it's Islamic extremists, then yeah, peace out.
If it's... I don't fucking know. I hate vague questions.

http://riddick.wikia.com/wiki/Necromonger_Empire

YouTube

the youtube vid is more to the point Psy is trying to make.

Verbatim · April 02, 2015, 11:07:18 PM

If my life would be forcibly changed as a result of conversion, then hello martyrdom.

I assume by "convert," you mean "convert". As in, actually change your life in accordance to the religion?
So, lip service wouldn't be an option anyway. You wouldn't be able to lie, because that's not a true conversion.

It's convert or die--those were the options given.

Korra · April 02, 2015, 11:08:00 PM

adapt

Verbatim · April 02, 2015, 11:11:52 PM

Quote from: Comet on April 02, 2015, 11:05:20 PM

http://riddick.wikia.com/wiki/Necromonger_Empire
YouTube

the youtube vid is more to the point Psy is trying to make.

Okay, yeah, fuck that shit.

Ásgeirr · April 03, 2015, 01:17:53 AM

convert and infiltrate

Isara · April 03, 2015, 02:12:09 AM

I can't put myself in the scenario where I am in some silly village in Middle East. Honestly, I am not sure whether I would suicide, or be killed. Probably I'd pick either option in the heat of the moment.

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Mr. Psychologist · April 03, 2015, 06:55:40 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 02, 2015, 10:55:58 PM

If it was rastafarianism, maybe I'd understand...

I also don't know what the hell a necromonger is, but I assumed it had something to do with Islam...

Edit:
I guess not. Ummm. Whatever, then. If it's Islamic extremists, then yeah, peace out.
If it's... I don't fucking know. I hate vague questions.

Necromonger was a bit of a joke.

They are from the Riddick universe, a massive army that rampages through the universe converting everyone in their path (Or killing them) until they reach the 'underverse'. Obviously we wouldn't have something like that appear in our world, hence the ISIS caliphate comparison as well.

Korra · April 03, 2015, 08:18:29 AM

Praise the Lord Marshal!

Super Irish · April 03, 2015, 11:30:07 AM

Convert, prepare better for next time, denounce and counter-attack.

Luis · April 03, 2015, 11:40:03 AM

If it's from an advance race that'll give cool shit then I'll convert, but if it's a bunch of sand niggers like ISIS then I'll die

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