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Would you like CCW in the UK and Europe?

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Would you like CCW in the UK and Europe?

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Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 11:23:41 AM
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Why not?

I would feel a lot less safe walking down the street knowing that anyone could have a ranged weapon on their person that I can't even acknowledge.

 
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I mean, I'm all for more freedoms, but Europoors seem pretty content with not being able to own handguns.  I don't see how (re)introducing them would benefit European society.

A more logical first step would be to make it easier to obtain shotguns and hunting rifles for personal defense and sport.

 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
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Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 11:23:41 AM
NO
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Why not?

I would feel a lot less safe walking down the street knowing that anyone could have a ranged weapon on their person that I can't even acknowledge.
But you feel safe walking around unarmed past a group of thugs?


No, because I can just walk to the other side of the street. Can't do that I someone has a ranged weapon.

 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
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NO
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Why not?

I would feel a lot less safe walking down the street knowing that anyone could have a ranged weapon on their person that I can't even acknowledge.
But you feel safe walking around unarmed past a group of thugs?


No, because I can just walk to the other side of the street. Can't do that I someone has a ranged weapon.
>implying they can't follow you

Who knew thugs were crippled?
>Implying we can't run.

I'll have you know we aren't all confined to mobility scooters.

But to get back to the topic, no. To have limitations on the carrying of knives over 7 inches (IIRC) without a valid reason, but allowing weapons far more dangerous to be concealed by anyone is just retarded.

 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: SuperIrish on February 08, 2015, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 11:23:41 AM
NO
ON
Why not?

I would feel a lot less safe walking down the street knowing that anyone could have a ranged weapon on their person that I can't even acknowledge.
But you feel safe walking around unarmed past a group of thugs?


No, because I can just walk to the other side of the street. Can't do that I someone has a ranged weapon.
>implying they can't follow you

Who knew thugs were crippled?
>Implying we can't run.

I'll have you know we aren't all confined to mobility scooters.

But to get back to the topic, no. To have limitations on the carrying of knives over 7 inches (IIRC) without a valid reason, but allowing weapons far more dangerous to be concealed by anyone is just retarded.
LOL

What're you gonna do if they're near your bus stop? Hide in the bushes and run to the bus when it gets there?

You guys seriously need to grow a pair of balls.

You gonna belittle the joke more, or refute my actual point?

 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 04:11:18 PM
Quote from: SuperIrish on February 08, 2015, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: SuperIrish on February 08, 2015, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 01:09:19 PM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 11:39:18 AM
Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 11:33:33 AM
Quote from: ShelfBacon on February 08, 2015, 11:23:41 AM
NO
ON
Why not?

I would feel a lot less safe walking down the street knowing that anyone could have a ranged weapon on their person that I can't even acknowledge.
But you feel safe walking around unarmed past a group of thugs?


No, because I can just walk to the other side of the street. Can't do that I someone has a ranged weapon.
>implying they can't follow you

Who knew thugs were crippled?
>Implying we can't run.

I'll have you know we aren't all confined to mobility scooters.

But to get back to the topic, no. To have limitations on the carrying of knives over 7 inches (IIRC) without a valid reason, but allowing weapons far more dangerous to be concealed by anyone is just retarded.
LOL

What're you gonna do if they're near your bus stop? Hide in the bushes and run to the bus when it gets there?

You guys seriously need to grow a pair of balls.

You gonna belittle the joke more, or refute my actual point?
How about you explain why it's dangerous for someone to carry a pistol to defend themselves?

Because getting a bigger stick than the other guy's doesn't fix the problem, it makes it worse.

 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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CCW would allow us to turn back time.

Spoiler
geddit?

 
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Nah I feel pretty safe, introducing guns will probably have the opposite effect.

 
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Quote from: challengerX on February 08, 2015, 04:43:29 PM
So having no stick at all solves the problem?

Criminals aren't going anywhere. Running from them won't accomplish anything.

Nor has giving concealed weapons to everyone helped, and now you deal with misfires and accidents which aren't avoidable either.

I recall a recent story about a child reaching into his mothers handbag for an ipod and accidentally firing the gun inside, hitting the mother and father. Fortunately the shot wasn't lethal, but there's countless stories of it ending badly.

At least with a knife accidents are less likely, and secondly I'm more inclined to fight an assailant brandishing a knife than a gun and I would argue far easier to do so.

 
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The Czech republic does pretty good with CCW. Why not the rest of Europe?

 
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CCW would allow us to turn back time.

Spoiler
geddit?
Actually it works the other way, turning back time would require using swords, knives, and such.

Learn your history.

 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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You keep dodging the point. What are you going to against four or maybe even more thugs with knives? Fight? Unless you're some sort of martial arts master, you don't have a chance. Run? There's a good chance they'll catch you.

How about you stand your ground instead.

That argument still applies to guns. What are you going to do against 4 guys with guns? pull the gun out and shoot all 4 before they shoot you?

Allowing ccw's and therefore guns in general just makes them more widespread. Criminals aren't stupid, if civillians ate allowed guns to defend themselves, criminals will get them too, as well as weapons not available to a law abiding citizen.

 
 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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I'm for CCW as long as there's a healthy amount of security checks to get a gun. Then again I live in the American south, so my opinion might just be a product of my environment.

 
 
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I'm for conceal carrying as long as I'm still able to call you a pussy for doing so.

You know, without you shooting me, and all.
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Quote from: challengerX on February 09, 2015, 04:06:46 AM
it's almost impossible to get one in Britain unless you're seriously connected

...because the sale of guns are heavily restricted here.

And seriously, you can't say allowing guns here wouldn't mean they reach the hands of criminals if they wanted them. You're assuming a perfect system of regulation which is highly unlikely at best.
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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Highly.

That's all I have to say here.

 
 
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Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on February 09, 2015, 01:20:32 AM
Quote from: Sprungli on February 08, 2015, 05:00:45 PM
CCW would allow us to turn back time.

Spoiler
geddit?
Actually it works the other way, turning back time would require using swords, knives, and such.

Learn your history.
Lol, CCW as in Counter-clockwise

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