Worst president in history?

More Than Mortal · July 06, 2015, 07:10:29 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 06, 2015, 07:09:10 PM

and provoking japan's attack on pearl harbor :^)

to be fair, he cut off their oil for being excessively imperialist

that's as good a reason as any

Mattie G Indahouse · July 06, 2015, 07:52:24 PM

I'm going with Woodrow Wilson due to him destroying the first amendment during WW1 and he permitted segregation.

Verbatim · July 06, 2015, 07:58:33 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 06, 2015, 07:52:24 PM

I'm going with Woodrow Wilson due to him destroying the first amendment during WW1 and he permitted segregation.

i would've mentioned the federal reserve act myself, but

Luciana · July 06, 2015, 08:19:42 PM

Why did the US even join WW1?

Better question. Why do people say the US is "Two time World War champs" when we did fuck all in WW1 and were regarded as incompetent by a lot of other nations?

More Than Mortal · July 06, 2015, 08:22:23 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 06, 2015, 07:58:33 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 06, 2015, 07:52:24 PM
I'm going with Woodrow Wilson due to him destroying the first amendment during WW1 and he permitted segregation.
i would've mentioned the federal reserve act myself, but

you aint one of those free banking types are you

More Than Mortal · July 06, 2015, 08:23:37 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:19:42 PM

when we did fuck all in WW1 and were regarded as incompetent by a lot of other nations?

I don't care what any other Brits will tell you, but you were vital in turning the war around in 1917.

Luciana · July 06, 2015, 08:33:20 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on July 06, 2015, 08:23:37 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
when we did fuck all in WW1 and were regarded as incompetent by a lot of other nations?
I don't care what any other Brits will tell you, but you were vital in turning the war around in 1917.

We helped end it quicker, especially since the Soviets had to pull out, but Germany was still well on its way to losing.

It would have just prolonged it. I still don't count it as "world war champ" shit though. We did way more in WW2.

More Than Mortal · July 06, 2015, 08:34:57 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:33:20 PM

especially since the Soviets had to pull out

wot

Luciana · July 06, 2015, 08:36:53 PM

I was literally about to correct myself after I refreshed and re-read, SHUT UP.

I had them on my mind for another reason. ANYWAY, point still stands cept replace Soviets with Russians.

Azumarill · July 06, 2015, 08:50:10 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:19:42 PM

Why did the US even join WW1?

u-boat scare tactics (sunk a lot of US boats in the atlantic). and i think we (or maybe the british?) intercepted some communications between germany and mexico, germany wanted to use mexico as a platform to invade/attack the US. i dont think mexico really entertained the idea but those two things combined to "force our hand," as it were.

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Luciana · July 06, 2015, 11:01:37 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on July 06, 2015, 08:50:10 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Why did the US even join WW1?
u-boat scare tactics (sunk a lot of US boats in the atlantic). and i think we (or maybe the british?) intercepted some communications between germany and mexico, germany wanted to use mexico as a platform to invade/attack the US. i dont think mexico really entertained the idea but those two things combined to "force our hand," as it were.

Oh right right, I remember all that. Zimmerman whatever. I was just curious cuz you'd think we'd join sooner.

The Hån · July 06, 2015, 11:09:33 PM

Carter.

ಠ_ಠ · July 06, 2015, 11:12:06 PM

Quote from: DAS THROWBACK on July 06, 2015, 06:57:31 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on July 06, 2015, 06:52:50 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 06, 2015, 06:39:38 PM
FDR single handedly saved us from the Great Depression...are you kidding me, Meta?
The New Deal prolonged the Great Depression, chiefly through artificially inflating nominal wages.

Pretty much all of the recovery was due to monetary easing.
Let's not forget his creation of the grand theft ring known as "Social Security"

those mother fuckers put that in place knowing that it would eventually fall apart

Azumarill · July 06, 2015, 11:14:38 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 11:01:37 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on July 06, 2015, 08:50:10 PM
Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Why did the US even join WW1?
u-boat scare tactics (sunk a lot of US boats in the atlantic). and i think we (or maybe the british?) intercepted some communications between germany and mexico, germany wanted to use mexico as a platform to invade/attack the US. i dont think mexico really entertained the idea but those two things combined to "force our hand," as it were.
Oh right right, I remember all that. Zimmerman whatever. I was just curious cuz you'd think we'd join sooner.

we were still reeling from the crisis in panama. woodrow wilson largely won his election due to his "stay out of wars" slogan, and our diverse population was split on the issue of the war. we pretty much needed to be provoked in order to enter the war

R o c k e t · July 07, 2015, 01:29:05 AM

Wiliam Henry Harrison.

The man got pneumonia from giving his inauguration speech in the cold, and died one month into his Presidency.
He literally didn't get to do anything.

challengerX · July 07, 2015, 06:35:01 AM

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Dopameme · July 07, 2015, 12:39:56 PM

How has nobody here mentioned Andrew Jackson? Not only was he behind the trail of tears and the Indian Removal Act, but he was also staunchly against paper money and believed that gold and silver coins were more suitable. The dude was a genuine psychopath.

DAS B00T x2 · July 07, 2015, 12:41:45 PM

Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on July 07, 2015, 12:39:56 PM

How has nobody here mentioned Andrew Jackson? Not only was he behind the trail of tears and the Indian Removal Act, but he was also staunchly against paper money and believed that gold and silver coins were more suitable. The dude was a genuine psychopath.

muh Manifest Destiny.

Nick McIntyre · July 07, 2015, 03:41:40 PM

Quote from: DAS THROWBACK on July 06, 2015, 07:02:46 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 06:59:42 PM
Obama because nationalist healthcare

it shouldn't be for everyone like those Euro countries.
ACA was a pretty poor implementation of how healthcare reform should happen if we're going to try and emulate national single payer systems without even coming close to being a single payer system.

ACA was a watered down appeasement for the Republicans.

Luciana · July 07, 2015, 05:27:18 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 07, 2015, 06:35:01 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:36:53 PM
I was literally about to correct myself after I refreshed and re-read, SHUT UP.

I had them on my mind for another reason. ANYWAY, point still stands cept replace Soviets with Russians.
God you're a fucking retard

don't cherry pick, bbe.

you just scream and go "LOL I WAS PRETENDING TO BE STUPID" when people prove you wrong :^)

challengerX · July 07, 2015, 05:46:33 PM

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BrenMan 94 · July 07, 2015, 08:18:29 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 05:49:02 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on July 06, 2015, 03:23:21 PM
For me, it's a tie between FDR and Hoover.
I'd say Hoover simply because FDR at least made attempts to fix the economy he was given. Hoover literally just sat on his ass.

At least as far as I know. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

FDR caused a second market collapse once the market was able to correct itself after the New Deal. Then he--OH LOOK THE JAPANESE BOMBED PEARL HARBOR FOR NO REASON!

More Than Mortal · July 07, 2015, 08:36:51 PM

Quote from: Nick McIntyre on July 07, 2015, 03:41:40 PM

ACA was a watered down appeasement for the Republicans.

As if the Democrats are any better when it comes to partisanship. They all seem to have collectively forgotten just how the Blue Dogs basically forced Obama's hand when it came to the public choice option.

Luciana · July 07, 2015, 09:28:00 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 07, 2015, 05:46:33 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 07, 2015, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: challengerX on July 07, 2015, 06:35:01 AM
Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:36:53 PM
I was literally about to correct myself after I refreshed and re-read, SHUT UP.

I had them on my mind for another reason. ANYWAY, point still stands cept replace Soviets with Russians.
God you're a fucking retard
don't cherry pick, bbe.

you just scream and go "LOL I WAS PRETENDING TO BE STUPID" when people prove you wrong :^)
Except I don't backpedal like you.

it was a simple brain fart, dummy

but wait

*ahem*

FUCK YOUR FAMILY!!!!!!!!!

Spoiler

why do we do this to each other ;~;

Mr. Psychologist · July 08, 2015, 06:47:24 AM

Well it's a bit after the fact now, but play nice because this is the serious board after all <.<

Heated disagreements are fine, but try to avoid the just straight up flaming. >_>

Mattie G Indahouse · July 08, 2015, 06:50:10 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on July 06, 2015, 08:23:37 PM

Quote from: Luciana on July 06, 2015, 08:19:42 PM
when we did fuck all in WW1 and were regarded as incompetent by a lot of other nations?
I don't care what any other Brits will tell you, but you were vital in turning the war around in 1917.

I'm thinking they're just saying we didn't do all that much simply because of being mad at Pershing. The British wanted to use us as soon as we landed but Pershing didn't want them using us in the same way they did with their colonial troops. They used them for cannon fodder and for their troops they sent them after the main fighting was done. What's ironic is that Pershing did the same thing with green troops and sent veterans after them in battle.

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