Woman jailed 20 years for "feticide"

 
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Oh. Well that's nice.
Whatever happened to innocent until prove guilty? Never mind the fact that this is completely ridiculous.

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The first woman to be sentenced for killing a foetus has been handed a 20-year prison term for feticide and neglect of a dependent, despite claiming she gave birth to a stillborn baby.

Purvi Patel was bleeding heavily when she entered a hospital emergency room in Indiana in 2013 after giving birth unexpectedly in her bathroom.

She initially denied a pregnancy but later said she had a miscarriage and had disposed of the foetus by placing it in a plastic bag and then in a rubbish bin.

Prosecutors claimed the 33-year-old was 25 weeks pregnant at the time she gave birth, while activists said she was most likely to have been between 23 and 24 weeks pregnant, NBC News reports.

Her lawyers say Patel, who is from a conservative Hindu family, had concealed her pregnancy from her parents and panicked when she realised she was in labour. Patel lived with and cared for her parents and infirm grandparents in a house in South Bend, Indiana.

Patel maintained that the foetus was stillborn but the prosecution argued that she gave birth to a live foetus that died within a few seconds.

"I assumed because the baby was dead there was nothing to do," the South Bend Tribune quoted her as saying during a police interview. “I've never been in this situation. I've never been pregnant before.”

The prosecution also claimed that Patel had ordered drugs to induce an abortion on the internet. However, a toxicology report did not find any evidence of the drugs in her system.

Patel is the second woman to be charged with feticide in the US, but the first to receive a prison sentence. She was prosecuted under state laws that are otherwise intended at targeting illegal abortion providers and prosecuting crimes against pregnant women, Al Jazeera reports.

Women’s rights activists have condemned her conviction and the subsequent sentence.  They say the law is being used to prosecute women who miscarry, have stillbirths or try to terminate their own pregnancies.

The British Pregnancy Advisory Service described Patel’s case as “tragic” and warned it could set a dangerous precedent for other pregnant women.  A spokesperson told The Independent: “Purvi Patel is sadly the latest victim of the creeping criminalisation of pregnant women’s behaviour in America.

“These ‘feticide’ laws are being used to punish the pregnant women they purport to protect, and will only discourage those who need medical care from seeking help, putting women and their babies at greater risk.

“What we are seeing in the US should serve as a warning to those who support reproductive rights in the UK. Ending a pregnancy remains a criminal offence in British law that carries a potential twelve-year prison term if the grounds of the 1967 Abortion Act are not met.

“This means that a woman who buys abortion pills online could be incarcerated. Women need access to high quality reproductive healthcare services and support. In the 21st century, their personal decisions about whether to continue or end a pregnancy do not belong in the criminal law.”

Lynn Paltrow. the executive director of the National Advocates for Pregnant Women (NAPW), said she was deelpy disappointed by the outcome. "While no woman should face criminal charges for having an abortion or experiencing a pregnancy loss, the cruel length of this sentence confirms that feticide and other measures promoted by anti-abortion organizations are intended to punish not protect women."

Patel was sentenced to 30-years in prison for neglect with 10 years suspended and a further six years for feticide, which an Indiana judge said would run concurrently.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/twenty-year-sentence-handed-to-purvi-patel-for-death-of-foetus-condemned-by-women-s-groups-10148831.html


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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1280086-patelpcaffidavit.html

Sentence is pretty harsh, but the verdict seems fair based on what they put together.


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She initially denied a pregnancy but later said she had a miscarriage and had disposed of the foetus by placing it in a plastic bag and then in a rubbish bin.
The fuck?


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She initially denied a pregnancy but later said she had a miscarriage and had disposed of the foetus by placing it in a plastic bag and then in a rubbish bin.
The fuck?
At least have the courtesy to flush it down the toilet.


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She initially denied a pregnancy but later said she had a miscarriage and had disposed of the foetus by placing it in a plastic bag and then in a rubbish bin.
The fuck?
At least have the courtesy to flush it down the toilet.
What, dumpster outside Super Target ain't classy enough of a grave for you rich folk?


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Good, fuck her. She sounds like real scum to put her baby in a garbage bin.


 
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Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Have to wonder though what someone is supposed to do if they have no way of doing a burial or something or a way to keep a baby corpse until they do.


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Have to wonder though what someone is supposed to do if they have no way of doing a burial or something or a way to keep a baby corpse until they do.
Preferably not taking drugs to induce premature birth could always help.

But in a serious case where it isn't the mother's fault, and premature birth just happens and the baby is pretty much dead on arrival? I think the only thing you can do is wrap it in some towels/rags until you can take it to the hospital or someone shows up to help you. Emotionally, they're going to be a wreck, so I think that's just so little they should be able to do that.


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
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I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Have to wonder though what someone is supposed to do if they have no way of doing a burial or something or a way to keep a baby corpse until they do.
Preferably not taking drugs to induce premature birth could always help.

But in a serious case where it isn't the mother's fault, and premature birth just happens and the baby is pretty much dead on arrival? I think the only thing you can do is wrap it in some towels/rags until you can take it to the hospital or someone shows up to help you. Emotionally, they're going to be a wreck, so I think that's just so little they should be able to do that.
The drugs weren't proven and as you said, someone in that state would likely be an emotional wreck. So their actions could easily be rash. Does it mean she shouldn't be punished for throwing a dead baby in the trash? No. But 20 years is absurd, especially since she hasn't been proven guilty of killing the baby, and yet they're calling it a feticide.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Have to wonder though what someone is supposed to do if they have no way of doing a burial or something or a way to keep a baby corpse until they do.
Preferably not taking drugs to induce premature birth could always help.

But in a serious case where it isn't the mother's fault, and premature birth just happens and the baby is pretty much dead on arrival? I think the only thing you can do is wrap it in some towels/rags until you can take it to the hospital or someone shows up to help you. Emotionally, they're going to be a wreck, so I think that's just so little they should be able to do that.
The drugs weren't proven and as you said, someone in that state would likely be an emotional wreck. So their actions could easily be rash. Does it mean she shouldn't be punished for throwing a dead baby in the trash? No. But 20 years is absurd, especially since she hasn't been proven guilty of killing the baby, and yet they're calling it a feticide.
What do you mean it wasn't proven? The affidavit says "PURVI PATEL also admitted that she had obtained two(2) drugs from Hong Kong, in an attempt to abort the child. PURVI PATEL told this friend that she began taking the drugs on July 10, 2013."

I agree with the sentencing being harsh, but it by no means sounds like she's possibly innocent based on the evidence and testimony from doctors that she repeatedly lied about not having given birth.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
She concealed her pregnancy, gave birth in an unsuitable environment, ordered abortion meds off the internet and her behaviour may have led to the death of her foetus which she then tried to conceal from the authorities?

Sorry, how is this not an open-and-shut case of neglect?


 
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And stuff like this will continue to happen until women have more available access to pregnancy care like Planned Parenthood.


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Is there any way to prove whether or not the fetus was actually stillborn?


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Is there any way to prove whether or not the fetus was actually stillborn?
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
She concealed her pregnancy, gave birth in an unsuitable environment, ordered abortion meds off the internet and her behaviour may have led to the death of her foetus which she then tried to conceal from the authorities?

Sorry, how is this not an open-and-shut case of neglect?
20 years though?
Yeah, 20 years is way too much.


 
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I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1280086-patelpcaffidavit.html

Sentence is pretty harsh, but the verdict seems fair based on what they put together.
I didn't read the thing you posted last night. Ah well.


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Is there any way to prove whether or not the fetus was actually stillborn?
Yes, there are ways of telling.
But is it known yet in this case? I feel like that's a big part of determining what a suitable punishment is.


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She initially denied a pregnancy but later said she had a miscarriage and had disposed of the foetus by placing it in a plastic bag and then in a rubbish bin.
I hope there's a Witcher in the area to take care of that botchling.


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Is there any way to prove whether or not the fetus was actually stillborn?
Yes, there are ways of telling.
But is it known yet in this case? I feel like that's a big part of determining what a suitable punishment is.
I am unsure. I have not followed the case.


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Is there any way to prove whether or not the fetus was actually stillborn?
Yes, there are ways of telling.
But is it known yet in this case? I feel like that's a big part of determining what a suitable punishment is.
Nevermind, I looked it up. They did a lung float test. Can't believe that was considered science as it is widely contested and inaccurate. An appeal will be filed, as it rightly should.


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She initially denied a pregnancy but later said she had a miscarriage and had disposed of the foetus by placing it in a plastic bag and then in a rubbish bin.
I hope there's a Witcher in the area to take care of that botchling.

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