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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
2016 has got off to a bad start. Among heightened security all around the world, including an extra 3,000 firearms officers along the Thames in London and 6,000 officers in Times Square (many of whom were undercover), it also became apparent that many iconic new year celebrations from around the world had been cancelled.

The Kremlin announced that the Red Square, the traditional location for Russian new year celebrations, would be closed. The government, however, is downplaying potential terrorism as the cause for this. The celebrations in Brussels were also cancelled after information was gathered suggesting an attack was being planned, leading to six arrests.

But the thing that angers me the most is Paris. After being attacked for exercising their freedom of expression at the beginning of last year, and after losing 130 innocent civilians in November, the iconic and beautiful fireworks display was cancelled for the first time ever. And 10,000 troops will be deployed to the streets of Paris. After being robbed of over a hundred lives over the course of 2015, 2016 has started with the French being robbed of their very way of life. An event of cultural celebration, solidarity and somber reflection on the events of the year gone--and one of the world's largest--simply didn't happen.

This from a people who marched in their millions in the face of the Charlie Hebdo attacks, who put flowers in the bullet-hole riven walls following November, and who roared "We are not afraid" in the face of terrorism. For 2015, this was the character of the French:



And yet the year has begun with a very sinister realisation: they are afraid. As are many others. Greater security measures are obviously needed to preserve our well-being against these theocratic fascists, but not at the expense of our values and our way of life. If more people have to die in order for us to go on living as we wish to live, then so be it.


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We fight against the new world order. And we will be successful.


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We fight against the new world order. And we will be successful.
Can somebody give this guy a warning or something?


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10000 troops are not patrolling Paris. 10,000 troops are on active alert thought all of France. There's currently about 3000 stationed in Paris and it's only temporary for about another month.

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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Fearmongering is fun
Not really, it was an honest mistake. Not that it detracts from the point I'm making, anyway.


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If people are dying in order for us to go on living as we see want to live, then let's change our ways of living to minimize the deaths. That is the logical way of seeing things, but you're trying to sell a speech for the masses by talking about our priviliges and how we deserve them on this board of arguments and logic.

Fireworks aren't a part of what makes us civilized. It's a concoction of gunpowder and metals burning in the sky; a display of pretty colours. If we never used fireworks, then we'd be fine, because they're just a small plus to our lives, but we do use fireworks, and fireworks were used in France, just not by officials. The officials in France cancelled their annual firework display, but they didn't cancell their annual celebration of the new year. There was a video show to replace fireworks, and that's fine seeing how people gather to celebrate the past, and the future; and not just to see pretty lights and then go home.

As for the soldiers and security, I don't see how they're so bad. The whole thing is different from everyday life, but it's really not a big deal.


 
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Fireworks aren't a part of what makes us civilized.
Irrelevant; the point is that innocent people are trying to freely celebrate an event of global importance, and are being prevented from doing so by those who would kill us. Did people still celebrate? Yeah, but we're talking about the Parisian fireworks display: an iconic event of cultural significance. This is the first time it's been cancelled; it's substantial because it's essentially part of French--and even global, given their widespread appreciation--life around this time of year.

Anybody who thinks this isn't a problem isn't paying attention.
Last Edit: January 01, 2016, 01:16:18 PM by M8A-ORD


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Fireworks aren't a part of what makes us civilized.
Irrelevant; the point is that innocent people are trying to freely celebrate an event of global importance, and are being prevented from doing so by those who would kill us.

Anybody who thinks this isn't a problem isn't paying attention.
I don't really see what you mean. You're talking as if we're being oppressed, but the truth is that we have enemies that just want to kill us, not stop us from celebrating. It just so happens that we're more vulnerable when celebrating. It is frustrating, but it doesn't change the fact that we are currently in a relationship with terrorists.

What is the point you want me to understand?


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You can't deny borderless Europe is not a problem.


 
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What is the point you want me to understand?
That this is fundamentally the reason why we fight them, and that defeat means the wholesale capitulation of our culture.


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What is the point you want me to understand?
That this is fundamentally the reason why we fight them, and that defeat means the wholesale capitulation of our culture.
Well, yeah, I agree with you. We fight to preserve our culture, and our lives, just like with any other enemy.


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You can't deny borderless Europe is not a problem.
It's not a problem, it has problems. The situation would have both pros and cons.

Are you a bot?


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Either we have nations or we don't. Which one is it going to be?


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Either we have nations or we don't. Which one is it going to be?
I'm gonna report this user because I strongly believe that it's a bot.



 
 
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Thank you for the concern desty, but karjala isn't a bot.


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Thank you for the concern desty, but karjala isn't a bot.
Sorry to have bothered you and all, but are you sure?


 
 
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Thank you for the concern desty, but karjala isn't a bot.
Sorry to have bothered you and all, but are you sure?
Yup, just another normal user.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Thank you for the concern desty, but karjala isn't a bot.
Sorry to have bothered you and all, but are you sure?
Dude used to be on Bungle, he's not a bot.


 
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Thank you for the concern desty, but karjala isn't a bot.
>karjala
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