Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 25, 2015, 07:51:25 PMoh boy you are a special kind of fascist. How dare someone not follow your worldviewI love how you're totally ok with child molestation. Now I know not to bother with your posts.
oh boy you are a special kind of fascist. How dare someone not follow your worldview
Quote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:30:02 PMnothing actually happens with a mental illness. a mental illness will not kill you. ptsd wont kill you. schizophrenia wont kill you. bipolar disorder wont kill you.You realize death isn't the only thing that's harmful, right? I'm not talking about death.Gender dysphoria not only won't kill you--it won't do ANYTHING harmful to you. At all.
nothing actually happens with a mental illness. a mental illness will not kill you. ptsd wont kill you. schizophrenia wont kill you. bipolar disorder wont kill you.
Quote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:30:02 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 25, 2015, 08:22:30 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:21:22 PMyou could say that about any mental illness.No, you couldn't. Because 99% of all other mental illnesses are actually harmful.Gender dysphoria isn't harmful at all. Not in and of itself.nothing actually happens with a mental illness. a mental illness will not kill you. ptsd wont kill you. schizophrenia wont kill you. bipolar disorder wont kill you.its the dumbass decisions you make because of that disorder that kills you.Gender dsyphoria has never caused someone to murder. You can't seriously be trying to compare GD with mental illnesses like schizophrenia. Please tell me you're joking?
Quote from: Verbatim on October 25, 2015, 08:22:30 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:21:22 PMyou could say that about any mental illness.No, you couldn't. Because 99% of all other mental illnesses are actually harmful.Gender dysphoria isn't harmful at all. Not in and of itself.nothing actually happens with a mental illness. a mental illness will not kill you. ptsd wont kill you. schizophrenia wont kill you. bipolar disorder wont kill you.its the dumbass decisions you make because of that disorder that kills you.
Quote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:21:22 PMyou could say that about any mental illness.No, you couldn't. Because 99% of all other mental illnesses are actually harmful.Gender dysphoria isn't harmful at all. Not in and of itself.
you could say that about any mental illness.
and neither will the others. they just make you feel crappy until you realize its just a mental thing and cant actually hurt you.
Key word being "believe". Which means we need to cure them like we need to cure schizophrenia.
I'm talking about legitimately curing these people.
Quote from: Tsirist on October 25, 2015, 08:21:32 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:11:23 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 25, 2015, 08:08:51 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:06:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 25, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuotePeople who accept transgenderism, yeah.I don't "accept" mental illnesses, I'm afraid.that doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.He means he doesn't think it should be accepted as a normal thing, or something that we should consider "okay".that's because mental illnesses aren't "okay" and need to be treated.I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Gender dysphoria isn't about some sort of decision that someone sits down and makes one day about themselves.go read/watch any interview with a tranny. they always ask when they realized they were a tranny. decisions were made.
Quote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:11:23 PMQuote from: Verbatim on October 25, 2015, 08:08:51 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:06:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 25, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuotePeople who accept transgenderism, yeah.I don't "accept" mental illnesses, I'm afraid.that doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.He means he doesn't think it should be accepted as a normal thing, or something that we should consider "okay".that's because mental illnesses aren't "okay" and need to be treated.I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Gender dysphoria isn't about some sort of decision that someone sits down and makes one day about themselves.
Quote from: Verbatim on October 25, 2015, 08:08:51 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:06:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 25, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuotePeople who accept transgenderism, yeah.I don't "accept" mental illnesses, I'm afraid.that doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.He means he doesn't think it should be accepted as a normal thing, or something that we should consider "okay".that's because mental illnesses aren't "okay" and need to be treated.
Quote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:06:02 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 25, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuotePeople who accept transgenderism, yeah.I don't "accept" mental illnesses, I'm afraid.that doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.He means he doesn't think it should be accepted as a normal thing, or something that we should consider "okay".
Quote from: challengerX on October 25, 2015, 07:49:40 PMQuotePeople who accept transgenderism, yeah.I don't "accept" mental illnesses, I'm afraid.that doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.
QuotePeople who accept transgenderism, yeah.I don't "accept" mental illnesses, I'm afraid.
People who accept transgenderism, yeah.
Quote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:06:02 PMthat doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.I mean I don't accept them to be incurable diseases we need to work around. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. This is a fact. And just like all the other mental illnesses that plague our species, we need to eradicate them from existence.
that doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.
Feeling trapped. Thinking you have the wrong reproductive organs.
I don't know. I'm sure we'll find out eventually.
Quote from: challengerX on October 25, 2015, 08:44:51 PMFeeling trapped. Thinking you have the wrong reproductive organs. You know what would solve that problem?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_changeQuoteI don't know. I'm sure we'll find out eventually.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_changeYou thinking that it's icky isn't a good reason not to support it.
Except that doesn't solve the problem for everybody. That's my point.
do any other mental illnesses require surgery as a treatment?
I'm sorry, but that just doesn't cut it. We need to heavily research into this and come up with something better than "well they commit suicide a little less with this treatment". That's pathetic.
Quote from: Notch's little brother on October 25, 2015, 08:45:24 PMQuote from: challengerX on October 25, 2015, 08:41:21 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:06:02 PMthat doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.I mean I don't accept them to be incurable diseases we need to work around. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. This is a fact. And just like all the other mental illnesses that plague our species, we need to eradicate them from existence.Like we've been trying to tell you. The only treatment that has given results is what you're against which is hormone therapy and occasionally surgery.I'm sorry, but that just doesn't cut it. We need to heavily research into this and come up with something better than "well they commit suicide a little less with this treatment". That's pathetic.
Quote from: challengerX on October 25, 2015, 08:41:21 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:06:02 PMthat doesnt make any sense. how do you not accept mental illnesses? they exist. they're real.I mean I don't accept them to be incurable diseases we need to work around. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. This is a fact. And just like all the other mental illnesses that plague our species, we need to eradicate them from existence.Like we've been trying to tell you. The only treatment that has given results is what you're against which is hormone therapy and occasionally surgery.
Quote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:49:38 PMdo any other mental illnesses require surgery as a treatment?Who cares?And yeah. There's many other types of body dysphoria.
Quote from: Verbatim on October 25, 2015, 08:50:29 PMQuote from: terrorbite on October 25, 2015, 08:49:38 PMdo any other mental illnesses require surgery as a treatment?Who cares?And yeah. There's many other types of body dysphoria.because if trannies are just a mental illness that doesn't hurt anything, but requires surgery to treat, its not the harmless thing you say it is.
I don't understand the issue. Clearly gender dysphoria is a harmful disorder to those who experience it and those who rely on them to be able to function normally. But transgenderism helps to solve it for the individual and doesn't hurt anyone else. What's the big deal?
Why should transgenderism be something we "accept"?
