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SIEG ZEON

Globalism itself isn't intrinsically bad as long as the rules, customs and laws of the nation state are still respected.

because alex jones told me it's bad.

because alex jones told me it's bad.

lol that's what some people honeslty believe

Because reality is a zero sum game, one unit of a resource one group has another one clearly does not.

Because reality is a zero sum game, one unit of a resource one group has another one clearly does not.

Economic growth is a thing.

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Globalism itself isn't intrinsically bad as long as the rules, customs and laws of the nation state are still respected.

why does there need to be a nation though?

Because cultures and ethnicity exists.

Globalism is a good thing, but so are nation-states. Not only does it divide the world up into manageable administrative areas, but we're a long way off from incorporating areas of Africa and the Middle East into the global community--let alone any kind of global federal arrangement--due to all the sectarian conflict and poverty.

but the main longterm goal would be to unify the world right? because it seems like that is where we are going. so we just have to get rid of cultural problems.

but the main longterm goal would be to unify the world right?

Why?

so we just have to get rid of cultural problems.

Good luck with that.

Earth feddie plz go

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I would argue that an actual functioning and peaceful global society goes against what makes us human. Conflicts of interest, and no one is 100% good but neither are they 100% bad. Right from the get-go, what exactly is good and bad will always be subjective. There will never be world peace and any government institution run by humans or simply a governing entity over humanity (without massively neutering personal autonomy) will always be fundamentally broken in some way by virtue of the fact that we are imperfect beings corrupted by individual motives, desires, and vastly different worldviews.

While favorable in concept, it would never work. Just like the free market. Any attempts would have massive flaws leading to some pretty undesirable consequences and injustices.

Conflicts of interest.

Just look at the EU. What's good for the collective isn't necessarily good for the individual. I'm not personally against it...until it fucks me over.

Unlikely that there'd ever be some sort of Star Trek-type government running the whole Earth through peace and equality, more likely you'd have one country just take over everywhere else and erase previous ideals and culture with their own.

Humanity hasn't grown out of tribalism yet. For a globalist society to exist, we need to ditch the idea of our tribes

Humanity hasn't grown out of tribalism yet. For a globalist society to exist, we need to ditch the idea of our tribes

This is precisely wrong.

Tribalism will be the only thing keeping humanity unified by the time it becomes a spacefaring species.

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Humanity hasn't grown out of tribalism yet. For a globalist society to exist, we need to ditch the idea of our tribes

This is precisely wrong.

Tribalism will be the only thing keeping humanity unified by the time it becomes a spacefaring species.

The concept itself has to be discarded. Otherwise we'll start shooting the second we make first contact.

Ladies and gentlemen, a créme de la créme example of the slippery slope fallacy.

No, we won't. Why? Because aliens aren't human. The concept of tribalism doesn't apply.

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Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 02, 2016, 12:44:10 AM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 01, 2016, 04:57:55 PM

Humanity hasn't grown out of tribalism yet. For a globalist society to exist, we need to ditch the idea of our tribes

This is precisely wrong.

Tribalism will be the only thing keeping humanity unified by the time it becomes a spacefaring species.

The concept itself has to be discarded. Otherwise we'll start shooting the second we make first contact.

Ladies and gentlemen, a créme de la créme example of the slippery slope fallacy.

No, we won't. Why? Because aliens aren't human. The concept of tribalism doesn't apply.

Look at nearly EVERY example of fiction we have. If we can't see that we have no tribe, then it's nearly always us vs them.

Where did this very forum come from? 

A little game called Halo. Which it the quintessential us vs them story

Hang on here... fiction isn't reality.