Israel and Palestine

 
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
Israel could probably do with some self restraint every now and then. That white phosphorous stuff was shady as shit.

That being said, the state that Palestine is in is entirely self inflicted.

 
 
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They're both in the wrong on various levels

 
 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Israel is and always has been the aggressor.

 
 
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Neither is in the right, and Western nations were in the wrong in the 1940's when they simply plopped Israel down on an established country without working to integrate it.

 
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Quote from: SecondClass on January 16, 2016, 07:28:50 PM
Israel is and always has been the aggressor.

This is demonstrably untrue in practically every conflict. You can certainly argue the ethics of their strategy but it's just patently false to say they've always been the aggressor.

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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
Both sides are arseholes, but both deserve to exist (The states, I mean. The parties ruling both need a huge change). Only a two state solution is feasible for any lasting peace, but neither side atm want that.

That said, I hold Israel to a higher standard because they aren't run by a group of terrorists (unlike Gaza, not entirely certain for West Bank's Fatah leadership), so them doing their "door knocking", use of questionable weapons, building of illegal settlements and discrimination towards muslim arabs within their own country is more abhorrent.

Hamas are fear-mongering cowardly fucks, but terrorists are gonna terror. It sucks for the civilians on either side, but Palestinians are more fucked because Hamas aren't doing anything for them, Israel isn't doing anything for them, nor is anyone else. I'm surprised the 400,000 that left for Lebanon since the '67 war didn't move, what with the Syrian refugee crisis making it far easier to cross into Europe.
Last Edit: January 16, 2016, 08:15:19 PM by Psygnirish

 
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
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New Zealand should have been made into Israel tbh

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Quote from: Jocephalopod on January 16, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
New Zealand should have been made into Israel tbh
You never stop trying to sell our land, John Key.

 
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Quote from: Cadenza on January 16, 2016, 11:56:56 PM
Quote from: Jocephalopod on January 16, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
New Zealand should have been made into Israel tbh
You never stop trying to sell our land, John Key.

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Quote from: Jocephalopod on January 17, 2016, 12:03:29 AM
Quote from: Cadenza on January 16, 2016, 11:56:56 PM
Quote from: Jocephalopod on January 16, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
New Zealand should have been made into Israel tbh
You never stop trying to sell our land, John Key.

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Quote from: Cadenza on January 17, 2016, 12:17:36 AM
Quote from: Jocephalopod on January 17, 2016, 12:03:29 AM
Quote from: Cadenza on January 16, 2016, 11:56:56 PM
Quote from: Jocephalopod on January 16, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
New Zealand should have been made into Israel tbh
You never stop trying to sell our land, John Key.

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it will be good for business

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lol what the fuck

i feel like jim would be into her

 
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Quote from: Jocephalopod on January 17, 2016, 12:31:34 AM
Quote from: Cadenza on January 17, 2016, 12:17:36 AM
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Quote from: Cadenza on January 16, 2016, 11:56:56 PM
Quote from: Jocephalopod on January 16, 2016, 09:15:48 PM
New Zealand should have been made into Israel tbh
You never stop trying to sell our land, John Key.

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lol what the fuck

i feel like jim would be into her
Jim and John both.

 
 
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Quote from: challengerX on January 16, 2016, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Luciana on January 16, 2016, 05:21:58 PM
They're both in the wrong on various levels
But who would you say is more in the wrong?
The wronger ones

 
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Quote from: † on January 17, 2016, 02:50:53 AM
Palestinians being crazy fucks is largely Israel's fault
Not really, Palestinian support for Hamas has been steadily dropping for a while now, even throughout Operation Cast Lead.

The problem is Hamas and other fundamentalist Palestinian groups, not the Palestinians themselves (most of them, today, at least).

 
 
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Israel should really just be allowed to annex Palestine, Syria, Jordan, and the Suez canal. The world would seriously be a much better place.

 
 
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Quote from: DAS THE HALLS on January 17, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
Israel should really just be allowed to annex Palestine, Syria, Jordan, and the Suez canal. The world would seriously be a much better place.

No.

 
 
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Quote from: Icy on January 17, 2016, 07:36:58 PM
Quote from: DAS THE HALLS on January 17, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
Israel should really just be allowed to annex Palestine, Syria, Jordan, and the Suez canal. The world would seriously be a much better place.

No.
Yes.
Actually, let's just give them everything from Chad to Iraq.

 
 
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Quote from: DAS THE HALLS on January 17, 2016, 07:37:52 PM
Quote from: Icy on January 17, 2016, 07:36:58 PM
Quote from: DAS THE HALLS on January 17, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
Israel should really just be allowed to annex Palestine, Syria, Jordan, and the Suez canal. The world would seriously be a much better place.

No.
Yes.
Actually, let's just give them everything from Chad to Iraq.

Lets give it to China.

 
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Quote from: Imperial Apologist on January 17, 2016, 10:49:53 AM
Not really, Palestinian support for Hamas has been steadily dropping for a while now, even throughout Operation Cast Lead.
Man, I hope so.

 
 
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Quote from: Kupoop on January 17, 2016, 09:28:53 PM
Quote from: Imperial Apologist on January 17, 2016, 10:49:53 AM
Not really, Palestinian support for Hamas has been steadily dropping for a while now, even throughout Operation Cast Lead.
Man, I hope so.
It's a pretty solid trend. It continued even throughout the blockade.

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
They're both in the wrong and I'm not going to begin to defend one or the other. I wouldn't be too bothered if the entire area was nuked off the map.