Why I Want To Give Up Teaching

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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
Why I Want To Give Up Teaching

I work at a school and I am seeing this too. Thoughts?


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Raising standards is good.


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Only uninformed idiots are against Common Core.


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

Only uninformed idiots are against Common Core.

Is there such a thing as informed idiots? A lot of these people who are in support of Common Core, with no questions ask, either don't have a child, or even work in a school environment to know how the stuff really plays out.

Why is the teacher spending nearly two hours each day lecturing in math? When I sat in a math class.. it was 40 minutes lecture and 20 minutes doing the assignment.
Last Edit: October 30, 2014, 12:19:15 AM by Forgewolf


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
don't be a teacher, dude. you don't know what you're talking about.


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
don't be a teacher, dude. you don't know what you're talking about.
Trust me, I'm not going to be one and I don't want kids either. Do you even work in a school, in a classroom on a daily basis to know what's really going on though? I don't think I provided a clear enough example to explain my concern I guess, but when a teacher spends 2 hours on the math subject with the class.. there is a serious problem. Science, Social Studies, Art, even our Technology time is 30 minutes or less on a weekly basis. How wrong is that?
Last Edit: October 30, 2014, 09:16:35 AM by Forgewolf


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Common Core is and will be a complete failure

Don't give me any of the Kentucky B.S also. Reason being is that is was specifically designed for Kentucky schools. What Common Core actually shows is that states/schools should be in charge of designing their educational plans


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.



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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
Common Core doesn't change any mathematical functions. Traditional addition and subtraction is still taught. Number lines were use before Common Core, too.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
Common Core doesn't change any mathematical functions. Traditional addition and subtraction is still taught. Number lines were use before Common Core, too.
Yes, but it's greatly putting more emphasis on number lines while setting the traditional way in the back


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
Common Core doesn't change any mathematical functions. Traditional addition and subtraction is still taught. Number lines were use before Common Core, too.
Yes, but it's greatly putting more emphasis on number lines while setting the traditional way in the back
No it isn't.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
Common Core doesn't change any mathematical functions. Traditional addition and subtraction is still taught. Number lines were use before Common Core, too.
Well, since I can't remember number lines at all, that leads me to believe either we never used them or it was briefly and after it was affirmed that nobody in the class had an easier time with it we went on to using the green foam blocks that pretty much anyone with a brain can understand.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
Common Core doesn't change any mathematical functions. Traditional addition and subtraction is still taught. Number lines were use before Common Core, too.
Well, since I can't remember number lines at all, that leads me to believe either we never used them or it was briefly and after it was affirmed that nobody in the class had an easier time with it we went on to using the green foam blocks that pretty much anyone with a brain can understand.
Indeed. I'm not saying number lines aren't stupid, just that they existed in the classroom as a teaching tool long before Common Core.


 
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I remember those neat green foam blocks instead of number lines. Fuck common core, bring back the foam!


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
Common Core doesn't change any mathematical functions. Traditional addition and subtraction is still taught. Number lines were use before Common Core, too.
Well, since I can't remember number lines at all, that leads me to believe either we never used them or it was briefly and after it was affirmed that nobody in the class had an easier time with it we went on to using the green foam blocks that pretty much anyone with a brain can understand.
Indeed. I'm not saying number lines aren't stupid, just that they existed in the classroom as a teaching tool long before Common Core.
They seem far more prevalent in Common Core, though.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
Common Core doesn't change any mathematical functions. Traditional addition and subtraction is still taught. Number lines were use before Common Core, too.
Well, since I can't remember number lines at all, that leads me to believe either we never used them or it was briefly and after it was affirmed that nobody in the class had an easier time with it we went on to using the green foam blocks that pretty much anyone with a brain can understand.
Indeed. I'm not saying number lines aren't stupid, just that they existed in the classroom as a teaching tool long before Common Core.
They seem far more prevalent in Common Core, though.
Different teachers use different teaching methods in different subjects. Common Core doesn't demand usage of the number line any more or less.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
don't be a teacher, dude. you don't know what you're talking about.
Trust me, I'm not going to be one and I don't want kids either. Do you even work in a school, in a classroom on a daily basis to know what's really going on though? I don't think I provided a clear enough example to explain my concern I guess, but when a teacher spends 2 hours on the math subject with the class.. there is a serious problem. Science, Social Studies, Art, even our Technology time is 30 minutes or less on a weekly basis. How wrong is that?

The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"
This is easy for you to say. You understand basic arithmetic. Adding two small numbers is easy for you. For a little kid who can barely count, adding a two digit number is confusing as all fuck. The number line method isn't meant to be the only method used in school. It's meant to aid children in understanding the shit they're doing before they move on to easier, more efficient methods.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
I actually do subtraction in the hundreds by hand daily...  and the occasional 23512.8 +x = 23552.6.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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And how, exactly, do you expect little kids to apply arithmetic when they don't understand it?


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Why are people so focused on this number line thing? Did you not have number lines in school? This isn't a new standard for Common Core. They aren't replacing algebra with number lines.


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Why are people so focused on this number line thing? Did you not have number lines in school? This isn't a new standard for Common Core. They aren't replacing algebra with number lines.
The idiots against it forget that children don't inherently understand basic arithmetic, and that there is a time in everyone's lives when fucking counting to ten is hard.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
And how, exactly, do you expect little kids to apply arithmetic when they don't understand it?
School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
And how, exactly, do you expect little kids to apply arithmetic when they don't understand it?
School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
Repeating the same thing doesn't answer the question.


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
And how, exactly, do you expect little kids to apply arithmetic when they don't understand it?
School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
I didn't learn division until fourth grade in '02.


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
And how, exactly, do you expect little kids to apply arithmetic when they don't understand it?
School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
So then why the fuck are you against using more than one example to teach children?


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
And how, exactly, do you expect little kids to apply arithmetic when they don't understand it?
School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
So then why the fuck are you against using more than one example to teach children?
I'm not. I'm against the more complex and impractical form being taught. Traditional math has worked for centuries; if it isn't broke then don't fix it


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
And how, exactly, do you expect little kids to apply arithmetic when they don't understand it?
School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
So then why the fuck are you against using more than one example to teach children?
I'm not. I'm against the more complex and impractical form being taught. Traditional math has worked for centuries; if it isn't broke then don't fix it
You understand that this method isn't taught as a replacement for traditional stacked adding methods, right? You understand that it's taught as a supplement to that method for the kids who, for whatever reason, can't grasp it initially?


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The thing I don't like about Common Core.. is we should be striving for the most efficient and simple way on solving a mathematical problem. I've seen that number line crap (or however the teacher is trying to present it) in action and thinking to myself, "That takes twice as long to get the same answer as just stating 30+5 is 35"

So much this. We need to be preparing children for the real life, that means teaching applied skills. In an everyday work scenario, a person will either pull out a calculator or quickly jot down a problem like 2+2x4(5-3) and solve it that way. It's simple, time saving, and the best way to do math.
You are so goddamn wrong. How the fuck can a person apply a skill that he doesn't even have?
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School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
And how, exactly, do you expect little kids to apply arithmetic when they don't understand it?
School=Education
Education=Teaching
Teaching=Learning math
Learning math=Being able to add, subtract, divide, multiple
So then why the fuck are you against using more than one example to teach children?
I'm not. I'm against the more complex and impractical form being taught. Traditional math has worked for centuries; if it isn't broke then don't fix it
So then why are you against number lines? They have also been used for centuries.