Quote from: RC5908 on October 25, 2014, 06:41:49 PMhard drives aren't realSilicon also isn't a part of human biology. In fact most metals are not.
hard drives aren't real
Quote from: RC5908 on October 25, 2014, 06:45:25 PMQuote from: Dustin c00lerth4nu on October 25, 2014, 06:42:48 PMQuote from: RC5908 on October 25, 2014, 06:41:49 PMhard drives aren't realSilicon also isn't a part of human biology. In fact most metals are not.no shit, but the point is that data can be stored physically.Wow how mind blowing... well now I know. Any other cool facts you can share?
Quote from: Dustin c00lerth4nu on October 25, 2014, 06:42:48 PMQuote from: RC5908 on October 25, 2014, 06:41:49 PMhard drives aren't realSilicon also isn't a part of human biology. In fact most metals are not.no shit, but the point is that data can be stored physically.
Way to go mods for filtering out non-political threads, because this board is totally not in desperate need of them.
if we could apply quantum mechanics to neurology
Quoteif we could apply quantum mechanics to neurologyI'm sure your efforts are sincere but this is the type of catch-all phrase thrown around by laymen that think you can just 'quantum mechanics' your way to any solution.
We'd like to believe the memory is stored in neuron cells, but there simply isn't any place in the cell where that would happen.
Quote from: SexyPiranha on October 25, 2014, 10:02:13 PMFor quantum effects to govern memory, or anything mental really, aspects of the brain would have to behave quantum mechanically. A brain, hell even a neuron, quantum mechanically speaking is a very large system and(as far as we know) barring extremely low temperatures(fractions of a degree above absolute zero) large quantum systems tend to approximate classical systems, meaning quantum effects shouldn't play a role unless we are missing something insane.OP you may be interested in Roger Penrose's quantum mind theory. Absolutely no experimental support for it, theoretical objections are similar to the one I raised but I thought I'd just throw it at you.I wouldn't necessarily say that we're dealing with macroscopic quantum phenomena. In fact the point is that the quantum behavior is not obvious enough for us notice it. Could it not be possible that this particular function of the brain is partitioned off from the rest of the system, or at least confines its interaction with the rest of the system to a very small degree?
For quantum effects to govern memory, or anything mental really, aspects of the brain would have to behave quantum mechanically. A brain, hell even a neuron, quantum mechanically speaking is a very large system and(as far as we know) barring extremely low temperatures(fractions of a degree above absolute zero) large quantum systems tend to approximate classical systems, meaning quantum effects shouldn't play a role unless we are missing something insane.OP you may be interested in Roger Penrose's quantum mind theory. Absolutely no experimental support for it, theoretical objections are similar to the one I raised but I thought I'd just throw it at you.
If memory is stored in neurons, why are there no organelles within the cell that perform that function?
How is that memories can be stored in one physical location anyway? We're organic, meaning unique chemical structures are the only way to hard wire that kind of information in a physical manner (correct me if I'm wrong, but how else can organic matter store information?).
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 25, 2014, 07:14:16 PMI'll dig up studies tomorrow if you want, but loosely speaking it's been documented that pregnant mothers who undergo a trauma/phobia causing event and still give birth pass on that fear to their child in the form of altering strands of DNA iirc. It's late so I can't remember it very clearly but I'll look for it tomorrow <.<Please link when you wake up.
I'll dig up studies tomorrow if you want, but loosely speaking it's been documented that pregnant mothers who undergo a trauma/phobia causing event and still give birth pass on that fear to their child in the form of altering strands of DNA iirc. It's late so I can't remember it very clearly but I'll look for it tomorrow <.<
Quote from: Dustin c00lerth4nu on October 25, 2014, 09:36:51 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 25, 2014, 07:14:16 PMI'll dig up studies tomorrow if you want, but loosely speaking it's been documented that pregnant mothers who undergo a trauma/phobia causing event and still give birth pass on that fear to their child in the form of altering strands of DNA iirc. It's late so I can't remember it very clearly but I'll look for it tomorrow <.<Please link when you wake up.Thanks for the reminder, I'll look for it now <.<
Goji, what are you studying?