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Unless they're poor, huh?
Where did I say that?

Please point out to me where I said being poor stopped you from being capable of running your life.


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I've told you before I'm uncomfortable with that label unless it's explicitly to do with social issues or, if you like, civil libertarianism.

I support pro-poor policies for the most part.


 
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Yes, because you live in a fantasy world where neoliberal economics somehow benefit the poor. We've already had this discussion.


 
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Yes, because you live in a fantasy world where neoliberal economics somehow benefit the poor. We've already had this discussion.
It's rich you say I live in a fantasy world when you think free trade is imperialism incarnate.

It'd be conducive to the discussion if you actually tried to pin-point what economic policies I support which help the poor, instead of just making a blanket statement. But then, I suppose that'd be asking to much.

And yes, we have had this discussion. I showed you that the Scandinavian countries, wildly opposed to anything which hampers free-trade or the supply-side, are essentially neoliberal in their approach to commerce. Their welfare state is the only real distinguishing factor.
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tried to pin-point what economic policies I support which help the poor,
Easy, there are none. What do I win?


 
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Easy, there are none. What do I win?
Topkek.

You could give Chomsky a run for his fucking money.


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Dear boy, flattery will get you nowhere.


 
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Dear boy, flattery will get you nowhere.
I'm serious, though.

If you're going to criticise my politics, at least do it correctly. Do yourself the dignity of being informed. If not, then fuck, have a nice day and see you l8er allig8er.


 
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I'm serious, though.

If you're going to criticise my politics, at least do it correctly. Do yourself the dignity of being informed. If not, then fuck, have a nice day and see you l8er allig8er.
Only one of us has tried to justify sweat shops, I think that's a good enough indicator of how informed we both are.

Au revoir.


 
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What do you mean by neoliberal economics?

I don't know why you guys get into all this jargon and argue semantics. This is all very simple. Money needs to circulate. It needs to be spent on programs to decrease poverty, programs to decrease violence, programs to help small family businesses. Large investments need to be made into various fields of science, hydroponic food, and renewable energy.

If it wasn't for our money being stolen by people who are practically royalty instead of elected officials, these things wouldn't be happening. What should we do? I'm not sure. But it's pretty damn clear this system is not working out. The corrupt run the world and are destroying our future while we kill each other over the crumbs that fall of their table.

I'm not even sure where you guys are trying to go with this, but I can assure you we're all on the same side and we shouldn't be arguing like this.

Neoliberal economics is usually used as a perjorative for people who support generally open markets and free trade. He doesn't seem to know a lot about what I actually think to engage in some real criticism, however.


 
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Only one of us has tried to justify sweat shops, I think that's a good enough indicator of how informed we both are.

Au revoir.
I didn't try to "justify" sweat shops. I said employment was preferable to unemployment. There's a reason such jobs are high in demand, and when somebody as far Left of me as Paul Krugman agrees you need to re-evaluate, mate. I'm not the one who wants to throw the poor back to subsistence living.


 
 
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Only one of us has tried to justify sweat shops, I think that's a good enough indicator of how informed we both are.

Au revoir.

Holy shit really?

That's a new low Meta ._.


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What do you mean by neoliberal economics?

I don't know why you guys get into all this jargon and argue semantics. This is all very simple. Money needs to circulate. It needs to be spent on programs to decrease poverty, programs to decrease violence, programs to help small family businesses. Large investments need to be made into various fields of science, hydroponic food, and renewable energy.

If it wasn't for our money being stolen by people who are practically royalty instead of elected officials, these things wouldn't be happening. What should we do? I'm not sure. But it's pretty damn clear this system is not working out. The corrupt run the world and are destroying our future while we kill each other over the crumbs that fall of their table.

I'm not even sure where you guys are trying to go with this, but I can assure you we're all on the same side and we shouldn't be arguing like this.
Neoliberal is a not-so-nice word for trickle-down economics, AKA the opposite of all the things you're advocating in this post.
I have to say, you're on the right track to realizing how broken our western political system is.


 
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Holy shit really?

That's a new low Meta ._.
Oh for fuck's sake, read the fucking article.


 
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Neoliberal is a not-so-nice word for trickle-down economics, AKA the opposite of all the things you're advocating in this post.
I have to say, you're on the right track to realizing how broken our western political system is.
Yeah, I don't support trickle-down economics. Puts too much emphasis on those at the top.

See, that's the problem when you criticise people while being uninformed.
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I didn't try to "justify" sweat shops. I said employment was preferable to unemployment. There's a reason such jobs are high in demand, and when somebody as far Left of me as Paul Krugman agrees you need to re-evaluate, mate. I'm not the one who wants to throw the poor back to subsistence living.
Because those are the only two options, right? Treating people like slaves vs leaving them unemployed?

Couldn't pay them a decent wage or anything, that'd be central planning~ and therefore evil, or something.

(Nevermind the fact that most third world countries are dependant on first world corperations because of western imperialism fucking them over for generations, but whatever).


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Supply-side economics and trickle-down are the same thing, despite how loudly you want to deny it.


 
 
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Oh for fuck's sake, read the fucking article.

Ehhh It's not that bad then <.<


 
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Supply-side economics and trickle-down are the same thing, despite how loudly you want to deny it.
It depends. Trickle-down is usually a euphemism for cutting taxes for the rich and allowing the "money" to trickle down to the workers. That's silly.

Supply-side economics, however, does work. It helps boost investment and consumer surplus. Like I said earlier, the Scandinavian nations (not to mention loads of other incredibly wealthy nations) have robust and free supply-sides. I disagree with the assertion from most supply-siders that it's the most effective way of ensuring economic growth, however.

Part of the problem with people on my side of the spectrum is rejecting demand-side policy, which is equally important.
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Nobody advocates trickle down economics here. Not even Kinder, but I might be wrong and he may just Surprise us all.

LOL Why are you being so condescending? It's broken mostly due to apathetic youngsters. If people would vote Democrat in the mid terms and get a Democratic president in you'd see serious progress. Had you guys down that for Obama's terms things would be better. The way things stand now he's getting president blocked everywhere he goes.
I'm not an American citizen, so voting Democrat isn't on the table for me.

Any progress you see after voting democrat will be nominal at best. No matter which party you vote for in America, you're voting for big business.


 
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Or better yet, no politicians at all!

Anyone??? I can't be the only technocrat here?
#Bring back the board



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I guess you could call me somewhat technocratic. I'm more meritocratic, though.
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Not true. Obama has been trying to pass a bunch if stuff, he just gets stalled every time.

That's the apathy I'm talking about. I mean, why not let the left take full control for a while and see what happens? What exactly do we have going for us right now that we're so scared to lose?
He's still stomping on civil liberties, blowing up Pakistani children with drones and giving money to Israel. Plus, there's that whole third world exploitation issue to consider, which will continue as long as capitalism still exists.

Vote for the guy all you want, just don't expect any sort of substantial change aside from subsidized health care.