Why do people fetishize democracy?

BrenMan 94 · February 22, 2015, 10:20:58 PM

Watching the Oscars and all everyone talks about is "a victory for democracy" or some other bullshit. People talk about democracy like it is the pinnacle of political systems. Why?

I chalk it up to the masses being incredibly uninformed about political systems in general, and parroting what they hear from public schooling and politicians (who benefit the most from the ignorant masses).

PSU · February 22, 2015, 10:28:10 PM

They are Stupid anyway.

The U.S.A. is a Republic not a Democracy.

Mad Max · February 22, 2015, 10:37:56 PM

Quote from: PSU on February 22, 2015, 10:28:10 PM

The U.S.A. is a Republic not a Democracy.

The US is a democratic republic, tard.

Luciana · February 22, 2015, 10:38:37 PM

Quote from: PSU on February 22, 2015, 10:28:10 PM

They are Stupid anyway.

The U.S.A. is a Republic not a Democracy.

Yeah, that's basically the same thing. They both have democratic systems running them. It's a democratic republic. We literally base our shit off of Rome and England.

maverick · February 22, 2015, 11:26:18 PM

Quote from: BrenMan 94 on February 22, 2015, 10:20:58 PM

parroting what they hear from public schooling and politicians.

Pretty much.

More Than Mortal · February 23, 2015, 01:41:42 AM

Completely agree.

Polítical freedom has next to no value when compared with civil and economic freedom.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · February 23, 2015, 01:46:09 AM

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More Than Mortal · February 23, 2015, 02:08:20 AM

Quote from: Arm The Mob on February 23, 2015, 01:46:09 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on February 23, 2015, 01:41:42 AM
Completely agree.

Polítical freedom has next to no value when compared with civil and economic freedom.
You need political freedom in order to preserve civil and economic freedom, as I understand it.

It's not a necessity so much as it is an expedient. Like, democracy's a bice pressure valve for a society, but it can fail miserably when people elect the wrong government.

There's probably a better way of preserving them than democracy--we just ain't found it yet.

Solonoid · February 23, 2015, 05:33:52 AM

Quote from: Mad Max on February 22, 2015, 10:37:56 PM

Quote from: PSU on February 22, 2015, 10:28:10 PM
The U.S.A. is a Republic not a Democracy.
The US is a democratic republic, tard.

Technically, the USA is a Republican Federation, and the individual states send representatives democratically, according to guidelines on how those representatives should be selected.

In fact, the USA is nothing more than a meeting room in a tiny territory sliced out of Maryland.
People too often treat the states as though they were provinces.

Even the executive isn't really elected by popular demand, he's elected by representatives, who take suggestions from their constituency.

There's actually no law saying that these electors have to vote for who the people vote on.

There's nothing democratic about it.

Isara · February 23, 2015, 06:55:33 AM

That's what a federation is.

Quote from: Soʟᴀᴄᴇ Rɪsɪɴɢ on February 23, 2015, 05:33:52 AM

Technically, the USA is a Republican Federation, and the individual states send representatives democratically, according to guidelines on how those representatives should be selected.

In fact, the USA is nothing more than a meeting room in a tiny territory sliced out of Maryland.
People too often treat the states as though they were provinces.

Even the executive isn't really elected by popular demand, he's elected by representatives, who take suggestions from their constituency.

There's actually no law saying that these electors have to vote for who the people vote on.

There's nothing democratic about it.

Solonoid · February 23, 2015, 07:23:21 AM

Quote from: Isara on February 23, 2015, 06:55:33 AM

That's what a federation is.

Quote from: Soʟᴀᴄᴇ Rɪsɪɴɢ on February 23, 2015, 05:33:52 AM
Technically, the USA is a Republican Federation, and the individual states send representatives democratically, according to guidelines on how those representatives should be selected.

In fact, the USA is nothing more than a meeting room in a tiny territory sliced out of Maryland.
People too often treat the states as though they were provinces.

Even the executive isn't really elected by popular demand, he's elected by representatives, who take suggestions from their constituency.

There's actually no law saying that these electors have to vote for who the people vote on.

There's nothing democratic about it.

Yes, but the point was that the US was not a democracy.

Isara · February 23, 2015, 07:32:30 AM

Not in the straightforward sense. Yet, the states individually are democratic.

Quote from: Soʟᴀᴄᴇ Rɪsɪɴɢ on February 23, 2015, 07:23:21 AM

Yes, but the point was that the US was not a democracy.

Not Comms Officer · March 05, 2015, 11:48:16 PM

Cause it's the worst form of government of course!!

Spoiler

Except for all the other ones.