Who are you going to vote for? Reveal your your power level 2016 edition

challengerX · October 27, 2016, 11:31:05 AM

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rC · October 27, 2016, 11:38:09 AM

Gary Johnson

Verbatim · October 27, 2016, 11:54:41 AM

Jill Stein.

I'm voting based on principle alone--not who I think will win, or who I think will get at least 5% of the ballot. Gary Johnson has a much better chance of reaching 5%, but I don't believe in him as a person or as a candidate. The libertarian party is a joke, as is libertarianism as a philosophy.

Trump and Stein are the only principled candidates of the main 4--so it's a choice between who I personally agree with more, and that's Jill. Me voting green is not a vote for Trump and it's not a vote for Hillary. It's a vote for green.

DAS B00T x2 · October 27, 2016, 12:04:28 PM

I'm #feelingtheJohnson

Ian · October 27, 2016, 12:05:18 PM

You could have just said Jill Stein without being an absolute dick to a group of people that don't agree with you. There is nothing wrong with having a Libertarian PoV. But this post is all for naught, instead of telling me why my views are shit you're just going to say they are shit and not back it up.

Quote from: Verbatim on October 27, 2016, 11:54:41 AM

I'm voting based on principle alone--not who I think will win, or who I think will get at least 5% of the ballot. Gary Johnson has a much better chance of reaching 5%, but I don't believe in him as a person or as a candidate. The libertarian party is a joke, as is libertarianism as a philosophy.

Alternative Facts · October 27, 2016, 12:07:27 PM

Quote from: Ian on October 27, 2016, 12:05:18 PM

You could have just said Jill Stein without being an absolute dick to a group of people that don't agree with you. There is nothing wrong with having a Libertarian PoV.

Nothing about his post is being "an absolute dick"

OP: Hillary Clinton

big sponge · October 27, 2016, 12:09:08 PM

Doesn't really matter who I vote for because my state is blue no matter who. I'm really just showing up for the local and state things like I do every cycle.

Luciana · October 27, 2016, 12:10:45 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 27, 2016, 11:54:41 AM

Jill Stein.

I'm voting based on principle alone--not who I think will win, or who I think will get at least 5% of the ballot. Gary Johnson has a much better chance of reaching 5%, but I don't believe in him as a person or as a candidate. The libertarian party is a joke, as is libertarianism as a philosophy.

Trump and Stein are the only principled candidates of the main 4--so it's a choice between who I personally agree with more, and that's Jill. Me voting green is not a vote for Trump and it's not a vote for Hillary. It's a vote for green.

Jill Stein pushes 9/11 conspiracy theories and doesn't know how federal funding works

OT: Hillary Clinton

Genghis Khan · October 27, 2016, 12:15:31 PM

I've heard Johnson is not a real libertarian. But this election is about nationalism vs globalism. Americanism vs globalism.

Ian · October 27, 2016, 12:27:42 PM

Calling a philosophy he doesn't believe in an absolute joke is being an absolute dick, especially when he doesn't even say why.

Quote from: Icy on October 27, 2016, 12:07:27 PM

Nothing about his post is being "an absolute dick"

OP: Hillary Clinton

Alternative Facts · October 27, 2016, 12:30:13 PM

Quote from: Ian on October 27, 2016, 12:27:42 PM

Calling a philosophy he doesn't believe in an absolute joke is being an absolute dick, especially when he doesn't even say why.

Well, considering their philosophy has yet to land them a single seat in national government and only about 150 seats across every state and local government, I'd argue that their stance is a joke and has yet to resonate with voters.

Ian · October 27, 2016, 12:31:48 PM

>A line of thinking is a joke because not everyone believes in it
>A line of thinking that has had seats in office can not be a joke

I'm literally making my avatar's face right now.

Quote from: Icy on October 27, 2016, 12:30:13 PM

Well, considering their philosophy has yet to land them a single seat in national government and only about 150 seats across every state and local government, I'd argue that their stance is a joke and has yet to resonate with voters.

Mr. Psychologist · October 27, 2016, 12:49:26 PM

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challengerX · October 27, 2016, 12:53:38 PM

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DAS B00T x2 · October 27, 2016, 01:04:49 PM

Quote from: Icy on October 27, 2016, 12:30:13 PM

Quote from: Ian on October 27, 2016, 12:27:42 PM
Calling a philosophy he doesn't believe in an absolute joke is being an absolute dick, especially when he doesn't even say why.

Well, considering their philosophy has yet to land them a single seat in national government and only about 150 seats across every state and local government, I'd argue that their stance is a joke and has yet to resonate with voters.

Bro fuck you we literally had four presidents. Whigs were moderate libertarians.

Alternative Facts · October 27, 2016, 01:07:24 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 27, 2016, 01:04:49 PM

Quote from: Icy on October 27, 2016, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Ian on October 27, 2016, 12:27:42 PM
Calling a philosophy he doesn't believe in an absolute joke is being an absolute dick, especially when he doesn't even say why.

Well, considering their philosophy has yet to land them a single seat in national government and only about 150 seats across every state and local government, I'd argue that their stance is a joke and has yet to resonate with voters.
Bro fuck you we literally had four presidents. Whigs were moderate libertarians.

Maybe you should go back to that name then.

challengerX · October 27, 2016, 01:10:22 PM

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Verbatim · October 27, 2016, 01:10:23 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 27, 2016, 12:10:45 PM

Jill Stein pushes 9/11 conspiracy theories and doesn't know how federal funding works

You don't expect me not to vote for her just for these two piddly reasons, right?

What do her opinions on 9/11 have to do with her ability to be president?

Verbatim · October 27, 2016, 01:12:46 PM

Quote from: Ian on October 27, 2016, 12:27:42 PM

Calling a philosophy he doesn't believe in an absolute joke is being an absolute dick, especially when he doesn't even say why.

You have the thinnest skin in the universe if that's your honest standard for absolute dickery. I could've said a LOT worse (and I have said a lot worse) about libertards--and I'll do it again.

I don't need to say why because my thoughts on libertarian philosophy have been on the record for years. To summarize: It's an ideology for selfish cunts, by selfish cunts. This isn't the thread to discuss libertarianism, so I'm not going to discuss it further.

maverick · October 27, 2016, 01:25:43 PM

The longer I stay on the Hillary train, the more she seems like the obvious choice tbh.

Luciana · October 27, 2016, 01:32:27 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 27, 2016, 01:10:23 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 27, 2016, 12:10:45 PM
Jill Stein pushes 9/11 conspiracy theories and doesn't know how federal funding works
You don't expect me not to vote for her just for these two piddly reasons, right?

What do her opinions on 9/11 have to do with her ability to be president?

The same reason Trump pushes conspiracies. Saying she'd open investigations to what REALLY happened on 9/11 and all that dumb crap. And when I say federal funding, I mean how she plans to pay for a few things, which she described as "magic".

As much as I hate Clinton, it seems she's the only one of the 4 that has any idea how things remotely work.

Ian · October 27, 2016, 01:45:25 PM

I could say a lot about the hypocrisy of calling Libertarianism a joke from someone voting for (((Stein))), but I wont because as much as I hate certain political viewpoints, I wont call them a joke. Not taking any political viewpoints seriously is how historical tragedies have happened. However, calling someone a selfish cunt because they avoid the over-use of a system that has failed people (and failed me) is pretty silly.

Tell me Verb, why should I champion Jill over anyone else when she's the lowest in the polls? If it's the views on the issues, why shouldn't I go to the next closest thing and just vote for Hillary? Literally nothing she offers isn't offered in some other form by the others. SO why not Johnson? He resonates with more people than Jill does even if only by a little, so this extreme hatred you have doesn't seems solely out of your own thin skin.

Quote from: Verbatim on October 27, 2016, 01:12:46 PM

You have the thinnest skin in the universe if that's your honest standard for absolute dickery. I could've said a LOT worse (and I have said a lot worse) about libertards.

Verbatim · October 27, 2016, 01:48:20 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 27, 2016, 01:32:27 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 27, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: Luciana on October 27, 2016, 12:10:45 PM
Jill Stein pushes 9/11 conspiracy theories and doesn't know how federal funding works
You don't expect me not to vote for her just for these two piddly reasons, right?

What do her opinions on 9/11 have to do with her ability to be president?
The same reason Trump pushes conspiracies. Saying she'd open investigations to what REALLY happened on 9/11 and all that dumb crap. And when I say federal funding, I mean how she plans to pay for a few things, which she described as "magic".

Could you do me a favor and provide the source that quote, please? I can't seem to find where she says anything like that anywhere except for Wikipedia, in a section that says, "The neutrality of this section is disputed."

As for finding out what "really" happened during 9/11, I can't say I'm completely against that. Why would I be?

Jive Turkey · October 27, 2016, 01:48:24 PM

My boi Trump!!

Luciana · October 27, 2016, 01:57:19 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 27, 2016, 01:48:20 PM

Quote from: Luciana on October 27, 2016, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on October 27, 2016, 01:10:23 PM
Quote from: Luciana on October 27, 2016, 12:10:45 PM
Jill Stein pushes 9/11 conspiracy theories and doesn't know how federal funding works
You don't expect me not to vote for her just for these two piddly reasons, right?

What do her opinions on 9/11 have to do with her ability to be president?
The same reason Trump pushes conspiracies. Saying she'd open investigations to what REALLY happened on 9/11 and all that dumb crap. And when I say federal funding, I mean how she plans to pay for a few things, which she described as "magic".
Could you do me a favor and provide the source that quote, please? I can't seem to find where she says anything like that anywhere except for Wikipedia, in a section that says, "The neutrality of this section is disputed."

As for finding out what "really" happened during 9/11, I can't say I'm completely against that. Why would I be?

YouTube

Here is a general one to funnel it out. You don't have to like him but they point out some weird things for both 3rd party candidates.

And because she's making it sound like a conspiracy happened

Gatortag · October 27, 2016, 02:03:06 PM

Probably won't bother. Jill is okay, as is Johnson. And yeah, Johnson isn't really libertarian. There's really nothing wrong with libertarianism either. I admit, some of it can be borderline anarchism, but eh... I can only assume when Verb says it's for selfish people. It's because a lot of them don't think there should be handouts. I tend to agree. Nothing wrong with helping people, but I don't have a job, only to have chunks taken out to support others. It's my money. Some people unfortunately, don't have much. If someone wants to help them, they can, but it shouldn't be forced. My biggest issue is government size. It's not the governments job to tell me what I can or cannot do. Within reason of course. No killing for example, it's a law, common sense too. But drugs? Get the fuck out of here, if someone wants to do it, let them.

Flee · October 27, 2016, 02:08:27 PM

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Gatortag · October 27, 2016, 02:10:04 PM

Quote from: Flee on October 27, 2016, 02:08:27 PM

I would vote for Clinton if I could. Best policies, best qualifications.

Are you kidding? Maybe you may think she has the best compared to others running. But that's not saying much.

Flee · October 27, 2016, 02:20:32 PM

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Mr. Psychologist · October 27, 2016, 02:39:12 PM

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