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Which are more annoying?

Vocal liberals/socialists/feminists/PETA/hippies
11 (42.3%)
Vocal libertarians/anarchists/conspiracy theorists/doomsday sayers
6 (23.1%)
Vocal conservatives/religious people/homophobes/islamophobes
9 (34.6%)

Total Members Voted: 24

Which are more annoying?

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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I'm at a loss, so I'll just explain why all are annoying.

Liberals - tend to be really whiny and wishy-washy, appealing to emotion and concepts like "fairness" and "equality" over proportionality and justice. They seem to completely lack a sense of scale as a result, and have no idea how to properly construct a liberal value-system in relation to rampant dogmatism.

Socialists - socialism is inevitable and I look forward to it (I think I'll see it at least begin in my lifetime). The problem with people who readily identify as socialists is that they're either I) revolutionaries who want to force class conflict or II) centre-right social democrats who aren't really socialists. So they're either idiots or liars.

Feminists - anybody in the Western world who identifies as a feminist has priority issues.

Libertarians/anarchists - retarded appeals to deontic morality like "taxation is theft" and other such bollocks. An absolute hard-on for the free-market and an inability to concede that the unaccountable corporation can be a nightmare in a situation where the State isn't properly equipped.

Conspiracists/doomsdayers - just fracking dumb. Greatest examples of confirmation bias.

Conservatives - usually the vocal ones are social conservatives and they appeal to tired old notions of family values and anti-abortion sentiments; inexorably linked to religion. Absolutely have no appreciation for more abstract and diffuse notions like civic nationalism, parochial loyalty and preservation of order, thus turning conservatism into an ideology instead of a philosophy and dogmatising it.

Religious people - liars, charlatans or people who don't understand science on the whole. Liars because they can't know if God exists, even as some claim; charlatans due to faith-healers, hoaxers and tricksters; scientifically illiterate because the vocal ones think scripture and Thomas Aquinas's bollocks have any intellectual authority.

Homophobes/Islamaphobes - while I take issue with the use of the latter word, bigotry is simply a social cancer; no explanation needed.
Last Edit: October 07, 2014, 05:40:16 PM by Meta Cognition


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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Feminazis should be lumped in with the Bible Thumpers, IMO. Both extremely vocal minority groups simply breed hated, fuel conflict, and seek to devolve society.

Vocal doomsayers and conspiracy theorists are entertaining.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
But taxation IS theft.
Deontic morality is a joke. If you can empirically show me that no taxation would be consequentially superior to the current paradigm then fair enough, but until then taxation remains justified.

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And what's wrong with a free-market?
Nothing, the market is actually quite amazing. The point is people who hold it up as an end in itself are stupid. (Again, deontic morality). If the market was consequentially devastating, nobody could seriously advocate it.

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The State is the reason it's a mess right now by stifling competition which prevents any real advances. (this only applies to an informed society)
I don't disagree.


 
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Vocal doomsayers and conspiracy theorists are entertaining.
This is actually pretty true hearing it now
Yup. The best part about watching doomsday specials on History... I mean, The Pawn Stars Channel is laughing at the "experts" and their believers.


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FUcking lol, did you mix the feminazis with libs on purpose?


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
ook right before 1913.
I'm talking about taxation in general, not just income tax. I'm not a massive fan of income tax, and I think taxes on property and consumption are superior. That being said, I think certain taxes - like transaction, inheritance and corporate income - should be eliminated first.

On the whole, however, I agree that rampant taxation can lead to horrible expenditure problems. Accordingly, I'd probably support any lowering the general tax rate and a relatively strict adherence to no government borrowing.

However, I don't think much of this will be accomplished since the trend of both social and political change runs behind technological change. Human labour will probably be made obsolete and the problem now will be a non-issue, so this is really just a hypothetical exercise for me.


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I have to say SJW/Feminazi/Hyper Libruls are the most infuriating, to me personally that is.

Reading them rant is like having broken glass stuffed into your ear canals, whereas with the far-right you can just laugh at them.


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
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I'm at a loss, so I'll just explain why all are annoying.

Liberals - tend to be really whiny and wishy-washy, appealing to emotion and concepts like "fairness" and "equality" over proportionality and justice. They seem to completely lack a sense of scale as a result, and have no idea how to properly construct a liberal value-system in relation to rampant dogmatism.

Socialists - socialism is inevitable and I look forward to it (I think I'll see it at least begin in my lifetime). The problem with people who readily identify as socialists is that they're either I) revolutionaries who want to force class conflict or II) centre-right social democrats who aren't really socialists. So they're either idiots or liars.

Feminists - anybody in the Western world who identifies as a feminist has priority issues.

Libertarians/anarchists - retarded appeals to deontic morality like "taxation is theft" and other such bollocks. An absolute hard-on for the free-market and an inability to concede that the unaccountable corporation can be a nightmare in a situation where the State isn't properly equipped.

Conspiracists/doomsdayers - just fracking dumb. Greatest examples of confirmation bias.

Conservatives - usually the vocal ones are social conservatives and they appeal to tired old notions of family values and anti-abortion sentiments; inexorably linked to religion. Absolutely have no appreciation for more abstract and diffuse notions like civic nationalism, parochial loyalty and preservation of order, thus turning conservatism into an ideology instead of a philosophy and dogmatising it.

Religious people - liars, charlatans or people who don't understand science on the whole. Liars because they can't know if God exists, even as some claim; charlatans due to faith-healers, hoaxers and tricksters; scientifically illiterate because the vocal ones think scripture and Thomas Aquinas's bollocks have any intellectual authority.

Homophobes/Islamaphobes - while I take issue with the use of the latter word, bigotry is simply a social cancer; no explanation needed.
I personally don't see Socialism being inevitable.. I am seeing an economic collapse and society will realize greed and the desire for more money is what brought the destruction.. And hopefully from a few brilliant minds, we execute project Venus and evolve past the need for a currency system.


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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I personally don't see Socialism being inevitable.. I am seeing an economic collapse and society will realize greed and the desire for more money is what brought the destruction.. And hopefully from a few brilliant minds, we execute project Venus and evolve past the need for a currency system.
Over the next few decades, 45% of jobs are high-risk for automation.

Human labour will be made redundant, and private property will cease to be an efficient resource director.

The Venus Project, by the way, is a load of shit.


 
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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours
SJW and hardcore liberals are legitimately annoying, but from my perspective it's the hardcore conservative jingos that are actively trying to fuck the country right up the bumhole.


 
 
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Conservatives and conspiracy theorists are at least entertaining.


 
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I chose the middle option, every time I hear the Alex Jones crowd spouting off utter shite I start wishing Obama was a satanic muslim anti-christ just to watch the idiotic morons shit themselves and flee to their under ground "bunkers" that they built in their basements.

But personally PETA are the fucking worst, not because of the message they claim to send, I am passionate about the treatment of animals but it's the fact that PETA are the biggest hypocrites in the "animal rights movement"*, not only do they spout of utter shit like "tigers can be trained to eat nothing but tofu" (which they have actually forced on poor carnivorous animals leading to ill health and death) but they're also responsible for one of the largest amounts of animal slaughter under American slaughter houses. PETA believes that domesticated animals shouldn't exist and all those homeless animals that get given to them are all killed. PETAs founder was also a dog snatcher and has killed over thousands of healthy dogs just because she doesn't believe they have the right to exist.

Fucking scum.



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*I didn't know what else to call the group of organisations that fight for animal welfare


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I chose the middle option, every time I hear the Alex Jones crowd spouting off utter shite I start wishing Obama was a satanic muslim anti-christ just to watch the idiotic morons shit themselves and flee to their under ground "bunkers" that they built in their basements.

But personally PETA are the fracking worst, not because of the message they claim to send, I am passionate about the treatment of animals but it's the fact that PETA are the biggest hypocrites in the "animal rights movement"*, not only do they spout of utter shit like "tigers can be trained to eat nothing but tofu" (which they have actually forced on poor carnivorous animals leading to ill health and death) but they're also responsible for one of the largest amounts of animal slaughter under American slaughter houses. PETA believes that domesticated animals shouldn't exist and all those homeless animals that get given to them are all killed. PETAs founder was also a dog snatcher and has killed over thousands of healthy dogs just because she doesn't believe they have the right to exist.

fracking scum.



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*I didn't know what else to call the group of organisations that fight for animal welfare


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Nah, we'd just march on D.C and behead him :^)