what the fuck, Rand Paul?

Not likely. He really shot down any chances with his support for the Gang of 8 Immigration Reform bill.

Honestly, the Conservative base has no interest in granting asylum or changing the policy - if you support it, you lost them.

DAS B00T x2 · November 21, 2014, 04:20:21 PM

So... Rand is more bullheaded than his dad?

Anonymous (User Deleted) · November 23, 2014, 12:39:05 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 21, 2014, 04:14:57 PM

Marco Rubio will probably win the primaries, anyway.

hue

Jocephalopod · November 23, 2014, 12:51:12 PM

did father make a mistake?

Naoto · November 23, 2014, 03:18:01 PM

I'd hardly call pre-2008 Obama pro patriot act either. I think it doesn't matter who you vote for, or what they say. They'll eventually side with the NSA, CIA, Patriot Act etc.

Whether that's because of confidential reports that show those measures to be necessary, or for more inept/corrupt purposes, who knows.

Kinder Graham · November 23, 2014, 08:04:13 PM

He voted against it because it didn't go far enough

Alternative Facts · November 23, 2014, 08:58:14 PM

Quote from: Kinder on November 23, 2014, 08:04:13 PM

He voted against it because it didn't go far enough

So...voting against any reform, because it doesn't go far enough, isn't a bad thing? Voting for a small bit of reform, and slowly progressing on that, is better than no reform at all.

BrenMan 94 · November 23, 2014, 09:01:32 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on November 23, 2014, 08:58:14 PM

Quote from: Kinder on November 23, 2014, 08:04:13 PM
He voted against it because it didn't go far enough

So...voting against any reform, because it doesn't go far enough, isn't a bad thing? Voting for a small bit of reform, and slowly progressing on that, is better than no reform at all.

But what ends up happening is people believe that that small amount of reform was "enough".

And voting for a "small bit" of reform is what made Obamacare such a mess. It was broken up into chunks.

Alternative Facts · November 23, 2014, 09:02:52 PM

Quote from: BrenMan 94 on November 23, 2014, 09:01:32 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on November 23, 2014, 08:58:14 PM
Quote from: Kinder on November 23, 2014, 08:04:13 PM
He voted against it because it didn't go far enough

So...voting against any reform, because it doesn't go far enough, isn't a bad thing? Voting for a small bit of reform, and slowly progressing on that, is better than no reform at all.
But what ends up happening is people believe that that small amount of reform was "enough".

And people complain that large amount of reform deals with too many issues at once, and fails to adequately address most of them.