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Whilst we don't have access to the cores, there is nothing stopping individuals from taking their own samples - apart from the funding to drag their ass across the arctic, the scientific knowhow to take, record and interpret the data themselves and the will to do it.
Except for the government which would stop you and sweep the "incident" under the rug as instrumentation failure that got you and your group killed.


 
 
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Whilst we don't have access to the cores, there is nothing stopping individuals from taking their own samples - apart from the funding to drag their ass across the arctic, the scientific knowhow to take, record and interpret the data themselves and the will to do it.
Except for the government which would stop you and sweep the "incident" under the rug as instrumentation failure that got you and your group killed.



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Whilst we don't have access to the cores, there is nothing stopping individuals from taking their own samples - apart from the funding to drag their ass across the arctic, the scientific knowhow to take, record and interpret the data themselves and the will to do it.
Except for the government which would stop you and sweep the "incident" under the rug as instrumentation failure that got you and your group killed.


Bro, you know better than this...


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Whilst we don't have access to the cores, there is nothing stopping individuals from taking their own samples - apart from the funding to drag their ass across the arctic, the scientific knowhow to take, record and interpret the data themselves and the will to do it.
Except for the government which would stop you and sweep the "incident" under the rug as instrumentation failure that got you and your group killed.

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It's not rational to think that the only place you can get information on climate is in the most hazardous, unreachable, and unsurvivable place on earth... too much of a coincidence IMO. Why can't we find this information elsewhere, like in rock patterns and formations? Why does it have to only exist in a place that we cannot have access to?


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Whilst we don't have access to the cores, there is nothing stopping individuals from taking their own samples - apart from the funding to drag their ass across the arctic, the scientific knowhow to take, record and interpret the data themselves and the will to do it.
Except for the government which would stop you and sweep the "incident" under the rug as instrumentation failure that got you and your group killed.

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It's not rational to think that the only place you can get information on climate is in the most hazardous, unreachable, and unsurvivable place on earth... too much of a coincidence IMO. Why can't we find this information elsewhere, like in rock patterns and formations? Why does it have to only exist in a place that we cannot have access to?

Because most rocks don't have air bubbles in them and there aren't many other places where ice can build up and not melt.
Last Edit: September 28, 2014, 10:07:19 PM by God the father, no relation.


 
 
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Whilst we don't have access to the cores, there is nothing stopping individuals from taking their own samples - apart from the funding to drag their ass across the arctic, the scientific knowhow to take, record and interpret the data themselves and the will to do it.
Except for the government which would stop you and sweep the "incident" under the rug as instrumentation failure that got you and your group killed.


Bro, you know better than this...

Oh I do, I also know who this is. I'm just playing along out of boredom.


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Whilst we don't have access to the cores, there is nothing stopping individuals from taking their own samples - apart from the funding to drag their ass across the arctic, the scientific knowhow to take, record and interpret the data themselves and the will to do it.
Except for the government which would stop you and sweep the "incident" under the rug as instrumentation failure that got you and your group killed.

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It's not rational to think that the only place you can get information on climate is in the most hazardous, unreachable, and unsurvivable place on earth... too much of a coincidence IMO. Why can't we find this information elsewhere, like in rock patterns and formations? Why does it have to only exist in a place that we cannot have access to?

Because most rocks don't have air bubbles in them and there aren't many other places where ice can build up and not melt.
Sure there are, what about the permafrost in Russia?
Last Edit: September 28, 2014, 10:11:57 PM by Sky World


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Whilst we don't have access to the cores, there is nothing stopping individuals from taking their own samples - apart from the funding to drag their ass across the arctic, the scientific knowhow to take, record and interpret the data themselves and the will to do it.
Except for the government which would stop you and sweep the "incident" under the rug as instrumentation failure that got you and your group killed.

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It's not rational to think that the only place you can get information on climate is in the most hazardous, unreachable, and unsurvivable place on earth... too much of a coincidence IMO. Why can't we find this information elsewhere, like in rock patterns and formations? Why does it have to only exist in a place that we cannot have access to?

Because most rocks don't have air bubbles in them and there aren't many other places where ice can build up and not melt.
Sure there are, what about the permafrost in Russia?

At this point I don't think it's really worth arguing with you, but for the sake of giving some of those reading this thread some neat trivia I'll elaborate on why that question makes you look incredibly ignorant of the topic.

First, permafrost is frozen dirt. Underground. Where there isn't air.

Second, since permafrost is solid dirt it doesn't tend to build up layers annually, and if it did it would be through erosion which wouldn't trap samples of the atmosphere and happens over much larger timescales.

Third, permafrost only occurs in hazardous, unreachable-to-you places, which kind of defeats the purpose of you suggesting it as an alternative.

Fourth, we do get ice cores from Russia. Only problem is the only places out of the arctic where surface ice doesn't melt in the summer is at high altitudes, so Antarctica and Greenland are actually easier to set up research stations at.

Fifth and where many would misuse the word ironically, in recent years permafrost in Siberia and Alaska has been melting at an accelerated rate, often cited as one of the direct effects of climate change.

Lastly, you only needed to Google 'permafrost' to have this information provided to you, so there isn't really an excuse for being so uninformed.
Last Edit: September 28, 2014, 11:35:09 PM by God the father, no relation.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
You cannot prove a negative, duh. However there is plenty of warranted skepticism against government studies, which is why I'm not going to take their word for it. Until they can show me their evidence clearly laid out, I'm not just going to swallow it—like a sheep.
Asking you to show that fossil fuels don't release greenhouse gases, or asking you to show that greenhouse gases don't produce warming isn't asking you to prove a negative.

It's a claim you are making which you should have data for. The fundamental difference here is that there shouldn't be an absence of evidence for the non-effects of global warming.

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By the way, the idea that you can't prove a negative is nothing more than a logical fallacy.
Last Edit: September 29, 2014, 02:01:49 AM by Meta Cognition


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
I will always have my doubts about 9/11. I'm not a foil hat wearer it's just that it's very possible the US did it.
Last Edit: September 29, 2014, 09:14:59 AM by Gatsby