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Quote from: Prime Meridia on April 24, 2015, 10:46:34 AMLife in Prison, but then again I'm just against the death penalty in general and especially so if there is the slimmest of chances for reformation and re-education.LOL
Life in Prison, but then again I'm just against the death penalty in general and especially so if there is the slimmest of chances for reformation and re-education.
Quote from: Prime Meridia on April 24, 2015, 02:52:34 PMQuote from: challengerX on April 24, 2015, 02:28:33 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on April 24, 2015, 10:46:34 AMLife in Prison, but then again I'm just against the death penalty in general and especially so if there is the slimmest of chances for reformation and re-education.LOLHe's an idiot, a radical, and a murderer. Two of those can be treated and the other punished for. Killing for killing is just silly.The death penalty is silly, yes. But thinking you can rehabilitate this guy, and that it's even worth it, that's ridiculous. Life with no chance of ever getting out.
Quote from: challengerX on April 24, 2015, 02:28:33 PMQuote from: Prime Meridia on April 24, 2015, 10:46:34 AMLife in Prison, but then again I'm just against the death penalty in general and especially so if there is the slimmest of chances for reformation and re-education.LOLHe's an idiot, a radical, and a murderer. Two of those can be treated and the other punished for. Killing for killing is just silly.
And make him a martyr? No.
well, that's certainly a better argument than the "b-b-b-but, we can't... KILL people! what if he's actually a nice guy deep down!?" bullshit that always comes into play in these discussionsbut i still don't buy it just because i think, even if it does "encourage" our enemies, all that means to me is that our enemies are going to become more visibleand thus, more detainable
I don't anyone here who suggested life in prison for Dzhokhar wanted to do so because they actually value his life...
If we execute him, we gain absolutely nothing,
He should be let go tbh. He did nothing wrong.
it's not that they value his life--it's valuing life in generalthat's where the "killing for killing is wrong" argument comes from, because life is sacred, and everyone deserves a chance at life, and all that bullshitit's just emotional babble with no logical bearing, and it's the most common thing you hear (or i hear) in these arguments
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Oh god..Doesn't look like you listened to the logical perspective that our enemies such as al-Qaeda and IS will masturbate to any execution of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and use it to attract more recruits. Executing the guy would just strengthen terrorist groups.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 24, 2015, 03:48:59 PMOh god..Doesn't look like you listened to the logical perspective that our enemies such as al-Qaeda and IS will masturbate to any execution of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and use it to attract more recruits. Executing the guy would just strengthen terrorist groups.i've already conceded that it's a better argument than the example i just gave, i'm just saying that it tends to be all i ever hear, and if what you just said wasn't a problem, there should be no qualms whatsoever with killing himwhich would be a gain, in it and of itselfwe lost some crazy murderous fuck who's not going to contribute anything useful at any point in his miserable future?GOODnow he can't drain our resources or breathe our fucking air
Quote from: Verbatim on April 24, 2015, 03:31:34 PMwell, that's certainly a better argument than the "b-b-b-but, we can't... KILL people! what if he's actually a nice guy deep down!?" bullshit that always comes into play in these discussionsbut i still don't buy it just because i think, even if it does "encourage" our enemies, all that means to me is that our enemies are going to become more visibleand thus, more detainableNah. Just more enemies. More determined. More enthusiastic.
Quote from: Shub-Niggurath on April 24, 2015, 10:46:25 AMHe should be let go tbh. He did nothing wrong.Hitler also did nothing wrong.
Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 25, 2015, 02:45:38 PMQuote from: Shub-Niggurath on April 24, 2015, 10:46:25 AMHe should be let go tbh. He did nothing wrong.Hitler also did nothing wrong. Well he lost the war so there's that...