What is your thoughts about inclusive teaching practices?

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They just place everyone according to ability here. Retards tend to have their own special classes so they can get their own proper support and teaching and shit, while everyone else got placed in classes according to ability. If you were good at maths but shit at english, you'd be in the top class for maths and a lower one for english. I liked the system, it means you're always in a class with people of a similar skill to you in that subject and you're not being dragged down by the fact that teachers had to accomodate them.

For instance, I was in the third class for science (If you didn't take science as an additional subject at GCSE, you couldn't be in the top two) and I was stuck with some people who really didn't science all that much and it was painful; a good half the lesson would involve the teacher having to simplify the concepts over and over again just to explain something simple (An example being people who didn't get the concept that light has a speed/ isn't instantaneous travel or that an oil rig isn't divers going to the bottom of the sea to get the oil in big barrels - yes, an actual idiot believed that). It was infuriating because I'd just end up sitting there being useless because I'd finished all the work. Thankfully, that was a one-off, and all my other classes were with people who weren't bumbling retards. The actual autistic kids had their own block entirely to themselves so we never really saw them much.

So yeah, I can fully agree that mixed skill-level classes are bad. For the smarter kids it makes them have to slow down their learning to let the uh, less-able kids to catch up. And the less-able kids feel pressured to catch up to the smarter kids and thus they probably don't do as well. Placing smart kids with other smart kids and dumb kids with other dumb kids is better for everyone involved.


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In my school district they had the special ed kids in their own room when doing work/activities, and they usually had a normal kid go off with them so they still spent time working with non-special ed kids. Can't really complain about that, never thought it was a problem.

Into High School(9th-12th grade) things got silly, not just with the special ed kids, though. They had remedial(so bad can't do better than D's) math, regular math, which was still commonly a piss fest, and then the Honors/AP classes which tended to be ridiculously high-tier with what they taught. Special ed kids had advisers each class for them, and they never got into the honors classes. Only thing of note about them was you'd occasionally have an incident where one would start making furious masturbating motions when the adviser wasn't around.

But again, Honors classes tended to be absurd. For honors Physics you'd be allowed to take a quiz(really a test) as many times as you'd like to get a higher grade; the catch was that the questions were so ludicrous my Engineer parents were confused by the problems. It also doesn't help that their ideal "teaching method" was to give you the work and let you figure it all out without their help. Meanwhile, in the normal classes you'd have the Geometry teacher repeat the lesson 10x, and some would complain they still didn't get it. The Aspiring Young African-American Youth sure as hell didn't make the normal classes bearable for anyone wanting to learn either.

I'm glad that they didn't mix the classes together, but Jesus Christ, did they ramp up the curriculum for the above average classes. A class for those that get C's or less and a class for those that get high C's or more might've been better.


 
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If your reading ability doesn't match your grade level then you should undergo constant and overbearing remediation until it does.


 
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As many of you know, I have an Autistic brother. And to this day I can barely read his writing and have to bring him through basic multiplication at 15. I don't even want to know what happens to other kids.

Inclusive teaching has it's ups, socially, but mentally disabled, physically disabled or emotionally unstable kids NEED seperate teaching where they can learn at their pace, with good caretakers who actually know what the fuck their doing.

Normal kids need a little more strict teaching tbh. However with more realistic teachings than friggin ridiculous math they'll never use.



Overall, a little off topic. But I do think that they should be seperated to let them understand at their pace.


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In the UK you have separate areas for the disabled kids to learn at whatever pace, and kids depending on whether they were good or bad at the subject got split into groups.

E.g. Set 1 was the kids getting 70%/A's, Set 4 was those who were struggling to get D's/40%.

It was kinda ok, but if you got put in a set you were stuck there until you miraculously improved by yourself (as the Sets meant teachers just taught slowly, and couldn't just be taught your way to Set 1), or made a fuss.

For example, I was decent at Welsh (went into the first language class), but the second I went under 50% in a test because the teacher decided to teach only in Welsh I got sent to the lower set where I learnt nothing and passed the course with little effort (the sets were tied to the exam papers;  if you got into lower sets, the papers got easier but the max grade also lower, I got the highest mark, a C for Welsh).

My brother nearly had the same shit pulled in him in Maths and got placed with retards, but he complained... still had to sit in for a fucking year to do a test and PROVE it was too easy, not as if the teachers could see it in him themselves...

In Ireland I don't quite know, but in Prinary school if you did bad, you were just held back a year until you did learn.
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Can someone explain this shit to me? Like... why are they mixing the retarded children with the normal ones? I thought the system where they get their own area and learning system was a pretty good one... why fuck that up?


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It really bothers me that you're going to be a teacher.

You're literally going to molest some of your students.


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In a perfect world, there is enough room and resources that every child is taught at exactly the pace they need with exactly the right environmental support they need in order to succeed socially and academically. Unfortunately we live in a world where kids are clumped up into groups of 20+ and their education is based entirely on their age rather than skill level. Knowing this made me loathe HS more and more even after I graduated.