What is your opinion on Anonymous?

Tackel · January 11, 2015, 09:22:40 PM

Do you love 'em? Hate 'em? Do you support them? Do you think they all belong in a jail cell?

Feel free explain to your opinion below.

For me, I mostly support what they do. There's always a few side "ops", as they call them, that I disagree with. Of course, they don't have a hierarchy status, so they're dded sometimes vary off course.

Supporting WikiLeaks, busting child porn rings, helping activists in Egypt over throw their government, and what not seem to be good deed in my book though.

big sponge · January 11, 2015, 09:26:20 PM

So my options are to blindlly support anon in whatever it does and to blindly oppose them in whatever they do?

I abstain from voting.

R o c k e t · January 11, 2015, 09:26:48 PM

The main issue I see is: they aren't consistent.

They do one good thing, then they hack a country. They flip-flop.
If they stayed on a steady course for good I could actually support them.

Tackel · January 11, 2015, 09:27:56 PM

Quote from: LC on January 11, 2015, 09:26:20 PM

So my options are to blindlly support anon in whatever it does and to blindly oppose them in whatever they do?

I abstain from voting.

or explain in the thread... cuz you know... this is a forum and shit.

Jocephalopod · January 11, 2015, 09:29:07 PM

most of "them" don't do anything and the social ones harass police under the hollow guise.

honestly anonymous is just a name

big sponge · January 11, 2015, 09:29:14 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:27:56 PM

Quote from: LC on January 11, 2015, 09:26:20 PM
So my options are to blindlly support anon in whatever it does and to blindly oppose them in whatever they do?

I abstain from voting.

or explain in the thread... cuz you know... this is a forum and shit.

You didn't give me that option.

Tackel · January 11, 2015, 09:29:43 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:26:48 PM

The main issue I see is: they aren't consistent.

They do one good thing, then they hack a country. They flip-flop.
If they stayed on a steady course for good I could actually support them.

How is hacking a country bad per-say? They hacked and DDOSed many Egyptian government websites during the revolution, which made some officials backdown and give the rebels some traction.

Assassin 11D7 · January 11, 2015, 09:30:02 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:26:48 PM

The main issue I see is: they aren't consistent.

They do one good thing, then they hack a country. They flip-flop.
If they stayed on a steady course for good I could actually support them.

It's a not-so-connected group from what I understand. There isn't one solid group or ideal.

Epsira · January 11, 2015, 09:30:14 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:26:48 PM

The main issue I see is: they aren't consistent.

They do one good thing, then they hack a country. They flip-flop.
If they stayed on a steady course for good I could actually support them.

True... I'd have to say from personal experience that organizing people in a consistent fashion on the Internet is difficult. I can understand why they're not more consistent.
They're also doing work that at times can be incriminating.

Tackel · January 11, 2015, 09:30:55 PM

Quote from: LC on January 11, 2015, 09:29:14 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: LC on January 11, 2015, 09:26:20 PM
So my options are to blindlly support anon in whatever it does and to blindly oppose them in whatever they do?

I abstain from voting.

or explain in the thread... cuz you know... this is a forum and shit.

You didn't give me that option.

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:22:40 PM

Feel free explain to your opinion below.

Nigga, I will back-hand yo ass.

Azumarill · January 11, 2015, 09:30:57 PM

anonymous is a stand alone complex, so i abstain from voting. this is a stupid poll.

big sponge · January 11, 2015, 09:33:15 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:30:55 PM

Quote from: LC on January 11, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: LC on January 11, 2015, 09:26:20 PM
So my options are to blindlly support anon in whatever it does and to blindly oppose them in whatever they do?

I abstain from voting.

or explain in the thread... cuz you know... this is a forum and shit.

You didn't give me that option.
Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:22:40 PM

Feel free explain to your opinion below.

Nigga, I will back-hand yo ass.

no

R o c k e t · January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:29:43 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:26:48 PM
The main issue I see is: they aren't consistent.

They do one good thing, then they hack a country. They flip-flop.
If they stayed on a steady course for good I could actually support them.

How is hacking a country bad per-say? They hacked and DDOSed many Egyptian government websites during the revolution, which made some officials backdown and give the rebels some traction.

Messing up a country's security systems to get their secrets? And it wasn't even North Korea -______-
I forget who it was. But they've done more harm than good.

R o c k e t · January 11, 2015, 09:34:22 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 11, 2015, 09:30:02 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:26:48 PM
The main issue I see is: they aren't consistent.

They do one good thing, then they hack a country. They flip-flop.
If they stayed on a steady course for good I could actually support them.
It's a not-so-connected group from what I understand. There isn't one solid group or ideal.

Which is an issue. Because all that power with no vision?

Mr. Psychologist · January 11, 2015, 09:35:34 PM

With a group like that, it's hard to say one way or another. It's easier to just make the calls on the specific operations.

Generally I dislike Dossers quite a lot, this longstanding irritation is because of two things.
1. They kept ruining Badger's Strams in the summer a few years back
2. They keep on taking down stuff like XBL/PSN

It's annoying as fuck and it doesn't actually do anything.

Tackel · January 11, 2015, 09:35:54 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

And it wasn't even North Korea -______-

So you support doing it to one country keeping secrets from it's people, and not another?

Tackel · January 11, 2015, 09:38:39 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on January 11, 2015, 09:35:34 PM

With a group like that, it's hard to say one way or another. It's easier to just make the calls on the specific operations.

Generally I dislike Dossers quite a lot, this longstanding irritation is because of two things.
1. They kept ruining Badger's Strams in the summer a few years back
2. They keep on taking down stuff like XBL/PSN

It's annoying as fuck and it doesn't actually do anything.

True but DDOSers =/= Anonymous

In fact, Lulsec and Lizard Squad were to ones who DDOSed XBL/PSN for past few years, of which both groups Anonymous worked with the FBI to help catch them.

Mr. Psychologist · January 11, 2015, 09:39:54 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:38:39 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on January 11, 2015, 09:35:34 PM
With a group like that, it's hard to say one way or another. It's easier to just make the calls on the specific operations.

Generally I dislike Dossers quite a lot, this longstanding irritation is because of two things.
1. They kept ruining Badger's Strams in the summer a few years back
2. They keep on taking down stuff like XBL/PSN

It's annoying as fuck and it doesn't actually do anything.

True but DDOSers =/= Anonymous

In fact, Lulsec and Lizard Squad were to ones who DDOSed XBL/PSN for past few years, of which both groups Anonymous worked with the FBI to help catch them.

I know, it's just a dislike of the means rather than the person using them.

R o c k e t · January 11, 2015, 09:40:45 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:35:54 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

And it wasn't even North Korea -______-

So you support doing it to one country keeping secrets from it's people, and not another?

North Korea is just bad in general. They need to be cut off.

Tackel · January 11, 2015, 09:47:40 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:40:45 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

And it wasn't even North Korea -______-

So you support doing it to one country keeping secrets from it's people, and not another?

North Korea is just bad in general. They need to be cut off.

I don't see a difference between leaking North Korea's confidential files and leaking the U.S.'s confidential files.

R o c k e t · January 11, 2015, 09:48:46 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:47:40 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

And it wasn't even North Korea -______-

So you support doing it to one country keeping secrets from it's people, and not another?

North Korea is just bad in general. They need to be cut off.

I don't see a difference between leaking North Korea's confidential files and leaking the U.S.'s confidential files.

North Korea are aiming missiles at everyone.
The U.S are not.

Lemy the Lizerd · January 11, 2015, 09:50:47 PM

Script kiddies.

Anybody who stands up the the church of science fiction is okay in my book, though

Epsira · January 11, 2015, 09:51:07 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:34:22 PM

Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on January 11, 2015, 09:30:02 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:26:48 PM
The main issue I see is: they aren't consistent.

They do one good thing, then they hack a country. They flip-flop.
If they stayed on a steady course for good I could actually support them.
It's a not-so-connected group from what I understand. There isn't one solid group or ideal.

Which is an issue. Because all that power with no vision?

Ironically, one could argue this is precisely what gives Anonymous its identity. To retain anonymity is to be nebulous and unpredictable in a sense, because unpredictability makes your actions less transparent and lends to staying unidentified. How actions are carried out is one of the best ways to ascertain motive, pattern, and method; their fractious quality directly lends to being unidentifiable (in addition to operating over the Internet). The group is comprised of people with no hierarchy, because the people in Anonymous specifically don't need organization except when circumstance calls for it. It's more about individuals than the group, i think. They let the inspiration hit them and they take it somewhere, then fade into obscurity like a transient breeze. They're the antihero vigilantes of the internet.

Ásgeirr · January 11, 2015, 09:51:23 PM

What have they achieved again?

Lemy the Lizerd · January 11, 2015, 09:51:40 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:48:46 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

And it wasn't even North Korea -______-

So you support doing it to one country keeping secrets from it's people, and not another?

North Korea is just bad in general. They need to be cut off.

I don't see a difference between leaking North Korea's confidential files and leaking the U.S.'s confidential files.

North Korea are aiming missiles at everyone.
The U.S are not.

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Tackel · January 11, 2015, 09:53:24 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:48:46 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

And it wasn't even North Korea -______-

So you support doing it to one country keeping secrets from it's people, and not another?

North Korea is just bad in general. They need to be cut off.

I don't see a difference between leaking North Korea's confidential files and leaking the U.S.'s confidential files.

North Korea are aiming missiles at everyone.
The U.S are not.

And the United States acted as a police state in the Middle East, terrorizing and killing innocent civilians because "muh freedom"

Still don't see a difference.

R o c k e t · January 11, 2015, 09:54:13 PM

Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on January 11, 2015, 09:51:40 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

And it wasn't even North Korea -______-

So you support doing it to one country keeping secrets from it's people, and not another?

North Korea is just bad in general. They need to be cut off.

I don't see a difference between leaking North Korea's confidential files and leaking the U.S.'s confidential files.

North Korea are aiming missiles at everyone.
The U.S are not.
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Keyword there, is "everyone"

Azumarill · January 11, 2015, 09:57:28 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:48:46 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:47:40 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: Tackelberry on January 11, 2015, 09:35:54 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on January 11, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

And it wasn't even North Korea -______-

So you support doing it to one country keeping secrets from it's people, and not another?

North Korea is just bad in general. They need to be cut off.

I don't see a difference between leaking North Korea's confidential files and leaking the U.S.'s confidential files.

North Korea are aiming missiles at everyone.
The U.S are not.

ehh that's kind of a moot point, all things considered. at most, NK would bomb the shit out of seoul. seoul would likely be annihilated, yes, but NK knows they'd be wiped off the face of the earth immediately afterwards. so, a small-scale version of MAD is keeping them in check. NK isnt really a threat to anyone other than their immediate neighbors.

maverick · January 12, 2015, 12:46:11 AM

Unbalanced conspiracy theorists with too much power.

Super Irish · January 12, 2015, 04:50:40 AM

It seems that when they do good, it's only because of a news story, e.g. Anonymous backing Charlie Hebdo recently, and a circulating facebook post where apparently they defend a girl... by doxxing the others.

Plus their popularity seems to have attracted idiots spouting anarchy on their smartphones, wearing chinese manufactured clothes and still paying raxes to a government...it's lolworthy really.

They just seem immature. No direction, and when the popularity pool sinks a little they hop on a news story and hack a site to remain relevant from time to time.

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