what is your most radical belief

 
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so i just got done watching trump's sotu address, which nobody has made a thread about for some reason

and it merely reinforced my genuine and most heartfelt belief that everyone who voted for trump should be tortured in the worst and most horrific ways imaginable for the rest of their lives

that's probably my most radical belief now, even more than the anti-natalism thing

i hate all of you


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I don't think I have any really outrageous viewpoints.

I think patriotism is retarded and dangerous (depending on your definition of it I guess) but I don't think that's ever been particularly controversial.

I mean I support some kind of basic income system combined with mass automation but idk if even that's really radical either.
Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 08:09:06 AM by Fedorekd


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I understand if you don't care, but hate Trump? That's the most retarded thing.


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I'm not sure.

Perhaps the one that nearly all illicit drugs should be legalized and the resources used to prosecute individuals for using should be funneled into programs that educate people more effectively and help addicts use safer (clean needles, quality controlled substances etc) and ultimately come clean.

Basically treat drug use as a public health issue instead of a criminal one.


 
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I'm not sure.

Perhaps the one that nearly all illicit drugs should be legalized and the resources used to prosecute individuals for using should be funneled into programs that educate people more effectively and help addicts use safer (clean needles, quality controlled substances etc) and ultimately come clean.

Basically treat drug use as a public health issue instead of a criminal one.
Might not remain that controversial for long. Pretty good results coming out of the places that have tried something similar (like Portugal).


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so i just got done watching trump's sotu address, which nobody has made a thread about for some reason
Group is close to being dead, that's why

activity since I first joined has dropped significantly.
Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 12:11:15 PM by Luciana


 
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I think patriotism is retarded and dangerous (depending on your definition of it I guess)
The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does

- Sydney J. Harris


 
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Anyway, my most radical belief would be that you should have to pass a test on what you know about the basics of the country you are in to vote (so for America, the constitution, and various positions) , and that's a view that shifts from "it should be a thing" to "well then again..." constantly. I just believe people vote without much knowledge of what they're voting for, or the impact it has. Regardless of if you liked Trump or not, some people legit voted for him "for the memes", and then when he won they were surprised, and subsequently, angry. Same with Brexit voters.

People are fucking retarded.

I also have the belief that if you abstained from voting in the US, you don't have nearly as much a right to bitch about the current state of things than someone who did their civic duty.
Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 12:19:28 PM by Luciana


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Anyway, my most radical belief would be that you should have to pass a test on what you know about the basics of the country you are in to vote (so for America, the constitution, and various positions) , and that's a view that shifts from "it should be a thing" to "well then again..." constantly. I just believe people vote without much knowledge of what they're voting for, or the impact it has. Regardless of if you liked Trump or not, some people legit voted for him "for the memes", and then when he won they were surprised, and subsequently, angry. Same with Brexit voters.

People are fucking retarded.

I also have the belief that if you abstained from voting in the US, you don't have nearly as much a right to bitch about the current state of things than someone who did their civic duty.
It used to be like that but public schools are  government funded and brainwashing kids. The right to vote should be earned.


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Anyway, my most radical belief would be that you should have to pass a test on what you know about the basics of the country you are in to vote (so for America, the constitution, and various positions) , and that's a view that shifts from "it should be a thing" to "well then again..." constantly. I just believe people vote without much knowledge of what they're voting for, or the impact it has. Regardless of if you liked Trump or not, some people legit voted for him "for the memes", and then when he won they were surprised, and subsequently, angry. Same with Brexit voters.

People are fucking retarded.

I also have the belief that if you abstained from voting in the US, you don't have nearly as much a right to bitch about the current state of things than someone who did their civic duty.
It used to be like that but public schools are  government funded and brainwashing kids. The right to vote should be earned.


 
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I also think the system for electing the president needs to be changed but a simple “test” to vote just doesn’t sit right with me.

I probably have a more radical belief but nothing else is coming to mind.


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Loving people and building relationships with them for their actions and maybe personality rather than loving them for gender, appearance, religion and social status.

People hurting animals for fun must get punished same way or even harder than people hurting people.

People should prioritize taking care of planet over techological/scientific progress.

Dunno if those considered "radical" or not.
Last Edit: February 01, 2018, 04:38:04 PM by MarKhan


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Anyway, my most radical belief would be that you should have to pass a test on what you know about the basics of the country you are in to vote (so for America, the constitution, and various positions) , and that's a view that shifts from "it should be a thing" to "well then again..." constantly. I just believe people vote without much knowledge of what they're voting for, or the impact it has. Regardless of if you liked Trump or not, some people legit voted for him "for the memes", and then when he won they were surprised, and subsequently, angry. Same with Brexit voters.

People are fucking retarded.

I also have the belief that if you abstained from voting in the US, you don't have nearly as much a right to bitch about the current state of things than someone who did their civic duty.
People already barely vote, do you seriously think a test before being allowed to vote is going to encourage more voting? Or that the test can be basic enough to not disqualify the majority of the nation but at the same time lead to smarter voting? In the same post you think a mandatory test would lead to better results while also calling everybody "fucking retarded".

And herein lies the issue with the majority of you, you're all far too emotional and you don't have a fucking clue what to do or how to fix any of these issues. I don't really know either, but at least I'm not here spouting mindless platitudes like an angry blogger. I'm not trying to be mean, but I find your post to be rather pretentious, even if that wasn't your intention.


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And herein lies the issue with the majority of you, you're all far too emotional and you don't have a fucking clue what to do or how to fix any of these issues. I don't really know either, but at least I'm not here spouting mindless platitudes like an angry blogger. I'm not trying to be mean, but I find your post to be rather pretentious, even if that wasn't your intention.
You do spout Trump hatred if you haven't noticed.


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
And herein lies the issue with the majority of you, you're all far too emotional and you don't have a fucking clue what to do or how to fix any of these issues. I don't really know either, but at least I'm not here spouting mindless platitudes like an angry blogger. I'm not trying to be mean, but I find your post to be rather pretentious, even if that wasn't your intention.
You do spout Trump hatred if you haven't noticed.
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i think literally everybody with two brain cells to rub together agrees with this


 
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do you seriously think a test before being allowed to vote is going to encourage more voting?
obviously not, but that's not a bad thing

less people should be voting

i disagree entirely with the part where she said that those who abstain (or otherwise consider themselves too uninformed to vote) have no right to complain about a shitty result, because while they may have the humility to consider themselves too stupid to vote, i'd say most people are smart enough to realize a shit situation when they're put in one

or maybe not, that's just how i feel
Last Edit: February 02, 2018, 09:47:27 AM by Verbatim


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
obviously not, but that's not a bad thing

less people should be voting
Why do you think that?

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i disagree entirely with the part where she said that those who abstain (or otherwise consider themselves too uninformed to vote) have no right to complain about a shitty result, because while they may have the humility to consider themselves too stupid to vote, i'd say most people are smart enough to realize a shit situation when they're put in one

or maybe not, that's just how i feel
I mean if they don't bother trying to learn anything and they don't vote when they easily could and should, they don't really have a leg to stand on. It's like there's a burning house with 3 people. 2 of them are trying to put it out, but they don't really know what they're doing and they're working against each other so the house eventually burns down. The 3rd guy in the meanwhile was just standing there with his arms crossed the whole time not lifting a finger to help, then has the audacity to say "Look! You idiots let the house burn down!".

Can they recognize a shitty situation? Sure, anybody can. But they don't really have the "right" to say anything because they did absolutely nothing to change anything. I know this recent election was a complete farce, but to abstain when there's a candidate like trump who has the possibility of winning, I think you let your country down tremendously.


 
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Why do you think that?
more people should be voting in the long term, because hopefully by that point, we'll actually have an electorate that's educated, well-informed, unbiased, and thoroughly invested in the political affairs of their country

but in the short term, less people should be voting, because we're simply not there yet, and we're not going to get there for a very long time (if ever) and that's just the reality
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I mean if they don't bother trying to learn anything and they don't vote when they easily could and should, they don't really have a leg to stand on.
i don't think that's so easy for most people

most people don't know how to conduct proper research, and you can't blame them for not being able to do so

it's actually extremely difficult for the average person (who doesn't understand how the internet works) how to sift through news sources, detect bias, and realize when they're being fed bullshit

even these so-called "fact-checkers" can manipulate people into thinking ANYTHING just by calling themselves a "fact-checker"

i don't think it's reasonable to expect people to know where to look for the facts

people are smart but they're also stupid and gullible
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Can they recognize a shitty situation? Sure, anybody can. But they don't really have the "right" to say anything because they did absolutely nothing to change anything. I know this recent election was a complete farce, but to abstain when there's a candidate like trump who has the possibility of winning, I think you let your country down tremendously.
sure, the nature of this past election is something of an anomaly where the correct choice was so painfully obvious, i wouldn't have wanted to see less than a 90% voting turnout

but i'm not factoring in the last election, though, because yes it was a farce, and also because no other election in american history has been this clear-cut, especially on the state level (which could be argued are the ones that matter more)

in other words, i'm just trying to be general
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and now that we have a menagerie of celebrities running for president now, i can only see every coming election growing more and more farcical, so it's just going to be harder and harder for people to take any of this shit seriously anymore


 
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and now that we have a menagerie of celebrities running for president now, i can only see every coming election growing more and more farcical, so it's just going to be harder and harder for people to take any of this shit seriously anymore
That's what they want. They want us to become disillusioned with democracy.


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Anyway, my most radical belief would be that you should have to pass a test on what you know about the basics of the country you are in to vote
We have The Voting Rights Act of 1965 for a reason; it is extremely easy to take these concepts and create barriers that discriminate against minorities.

It sounds really rudimentary, but as far as I see the only way that can't fuck up is encouraging more people to vote and educating the greater populace about identifying credible and reliable sources. It's not perfect, but discouraging voting (or the opposite, mandatory voting) is counterproductive to maintaining a nation that defines itself by its ideas of freedom, where the individual's actions are defined by his or her ability and willingness to act upon them.