I'm not sure if "Hello" and "Good evening/afternoon/morning" actually qualify as harassment.
I don't see how donating to that non-profit can change the attitudes of certain people...The tone, and where their eyes look are the issue there, not the words.Quote from: Lord Commissar on October 29, 2014, 11:18:19 AMI'm not sure if "Hello" and "Good evening/afternoon/morning" actually qualify as harassment.
It's been a few days since I've watched it, but from what I remember the hellos and good evening/afternoon/mornings seemed to be your average everyday ones. Were there instances of harassment in this video? Yes, definitely, but from what I recall those instances I'm talking about weren't it.
I wonder what the ratio of "men who harassed her" to "men who went about their business and didn't give a shit" was. Jessica Williams did a similar bit on the Daily Show about a month back. In such a densely populated urban area as New York, with such a large sample size of men, you're bound to catch a few catcallers.Now, I get where the girls are coming from- being harassed in any way is annoying. But this is much less of a problem than people like to pretend it is.
Ok, I might be nitpicking now, but you did call grown ass men as men, and now you are talking about grown ass women as girls? Seriously? How do you really expect people to take you seriously with that kind of obvious bias?Quote from: Azumarill on October 31, 2014, 10:56:32 AMI wonder what the ratio of "men who harassed her" to "men who went about their business and didn't give a shit" was. Jessica Williams did a similar bit on the Daily Show about a month back. In such a densely populated urban area as New York, with such a large sample size of men, you're bound to catch a few catcallers.Now, I get where the ladies are coming from- being harassed in any way is annoying. But this is much less of a problem than people like to pretend it is.
I wonder what the ratio of "men who harassed her" to "men who went about their business and didn't give a shit" was. Jessica Williams did a similar bit on the Daily Show about a month back. In such a densely populated urban area as New York, with such a large sample size of men, you're bound to catch a few catcallers.Now, I get where the ladies are coming from- being harassed in any way is annoying. But this is much less of a problem than people like to pretend it is.
Yeah, that really is nitpicking. It's just an awkward choice of words. Would "ladies" be inoffensive to you?
What I was trying to say through that silly nitpicking is that there are true issues out there, and certainly when some patterns happen often throughout someone's daily life then it becomes something you must cope with and when you cope with it you tend to tone it down.Certainly, most men out there are not perverts or going to harass others. However, it doesn't mean that the issue isn't there, and it's not just "a few people" there is an issue, and it needs to be tackled openly with a certain degree of maturity.It's not about what words are offensive or not, but if I talked about those men as "boys" due to their behavior, wouldn't I be disrespecting them, and men in general? I don't want to do that. So, I'd appreciate if you, in the future that is, considered that, even though it may be nitpicking the choice of words in a serious argument like this one is important. (Something that everyone gets wrong sometimes)Quote from: Azumarill on October 31, 2014, 11:01:00 AMYeah, that really is nitpicking. It's just an awkward choice of words. Would "ladies" be inoffensive to you?
I don't know about other males, but I certainly wouldn't be offended if you called them "boys." I don't see the point in getting caught up in semantic arguments about word association.Yes, it is a problem. Catcalling is annoying for people who have to deal with it. The men who continue to publicly harass women in that manner clearly have warped views of ethics and morality, but they're outliers. We're working hard as a culture to ingrain the idea that everyone has a right to their sovereignty, and overall we're doing a pretty damn good job.
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