Quote from: E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y on November 05, 2014, 02:16:51 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. Although, I certainly think the education system as a whole needs to be overhauled, having minimum requirements isn't a step in the wrong direction.Do you mean minimum standards (for scores), or minimum requirements for subject material? Minimum standards promote mediocrity.Requirements for subject material.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. Although, I certainly think the education system as a whole needs to be overhauled, having minimum requirements isn't a step in the wrong direction.Do you mean minimum standards (for scores), or minimum requirements for subject material? Minimum standards promote mediocrity.
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. Although, I certainly think the education system as a whole needs to be overhauled, having minimum requirements isn't a step in the wrong direction.
Most likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving education
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:18:34 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:09:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:07:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common CoreNo, having them go below Common Core standards would destroy the point of Common Core.Going above and beyond is universally accepted as a good thing.Common core is a minimum standard, not a maximum.Except schools that have higher standards have to lower their standards because other schools in the same state don't follow theirsI'd like a source on that.No Fox or Breitbart pls
Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:09:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:07:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common CoreNo, having them go below Common Core standards would destroy the point of Common Core.Going above and beyond is universally accepted as a good thing.Common core is a minimum standard, not a maximum.Except schools that have higher standards have to lower their standards because other schools in the same state don't follow theirs
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:07:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common CoreNo, having them go below Common Core standards would destroy the point of Common Core.Going above and beyond is universally accepted as a good thing.Common core is a minimum standard, not a maximum.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common Core
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same path
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves.
Quote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:21:09 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:18:34 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:09:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:07:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common CoreNo, having them go below Common Core standards would destroy the point of Common Core.Going above and beyond is universally accepted as a good thing.Common core is a minimum standard, not a maximum.Except schools that have higher standards have to lower their standards because other schools in the same state don't follow theirsI'd like a source on that.No Fox or Breitbart plshttp://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-10-reasons-oppose-common-core
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:25:43 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:21:09 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:18:34 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:09:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:07:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common CoreNo, having them go below Common Core standards would destroy the point of Common Core.Going above and beyond is universally accepted as a good thing.Common core is a minimum standard, not a maximum.Except schools that have higher standards have to lower their standards because other schools in the same state don't follow theirsI'd like a source on that.No Fox or Breitbart plshttp://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-10-reasons-oppose-common-coreholy shit that bias. Have you even looked at their front page??
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:25:43 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:21:09 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:18:34 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:09:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:07:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common CoreNo, having them go below Common Core standards would destroy the point of Common Core.Going above and beyond is universally accepted as a good thing.Common core is a minimum standard, not a maximum.Except schools that have higher standards have to lower their standards because other schools in the same state don't follow theirsI'd like a source on that.No Fox or Breitbart plshttp://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-10-reasons-oppose-common-coreSo the article's source is what one lady who is not any kind of official says.Lol ok
Quote from: Mad Max on November 05, 2014, 02:26:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:25:43 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:21:09 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:18:34 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:09:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:07:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common CoreNo, having them go below Common Core standards would destroy the point of Common Core.Going above and beyond is universally accepted as a good thing.Common core is a minimum standard, not a maximum.Except schools that have higher standards have to lower their standards because other schools in the same state don't follow theirsI'd like a source on that.No Fox or Breitbart plshttp://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-10-reasons-oppose-common-coreholy shit that bias. Have you even looked at their front page??>dat dodging of facts
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:27:44 PMQuote from: Mad Max on November 05, 2014, 02:26:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:25:43 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:21:09 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:18:34 PMQuote from: Lemy the Lizerd on November 05, 2014, 02:09:51 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:07:58 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:50:08 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:47:39 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 01:18:58 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 01:13:39 PMMost likely, she supports CommonCrap which is total opposite of improving educationCommon Core is fine so long as the localities can perform the implementation themselves. That's contradictory since the purpose is to have all schools follow the same pathNo. That's not contradictory. Like, in the slightest. Using the same road doesn't necessitate driving the same car.Having states/cities make changes destroys the point of Common CoreNo, having them go below Common Core standards would destroy the point of Common Core.Going above and beyond is universally accepted as a good thing.Common core is a minimum standard, not a maximum.Except schools that have higher standards have to lower their standards because other schools in the same state don't follow theirsI'd like a source on that.No Fox or Breitbart plshttp://www.freedomworks.org/content/top-10-reasons-oppose-common-coreholy shit that bias. Have you even looked at their front page??>dat dodging of factsWhat's to dodge? The whole front page is "Congratulations [Republican nominee] on winning [Senate seat/governor]"Fuck off with that shit.
HEY GUISE LOOK AT MY UNBIASED SOURCE
Well Democrat are shit tier imbeciles
Kinder, why don't you post some studies and papers? Not the article of some pseudo-libertarian, Republican youtuber?
Sandra Stotsky, a professor at the University of Arkansas, who served on the committee to validate Common Core standards said, “The standards dumb American education down by about two grades worth.
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:32:35 PMWell Democrat are shit tier imbecilesdat tribalism doe
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 02:32:20 PMKinder, why don't you post some studies and papers? Not the article of some pseudo-libertarian, Republican youtuber?>didn't read the sourceQuote Sandra Stotsky, a professor at the University of Arkansas, who served on the committee to validate Common Core standards said, “The standards dumb American education down by about two grades worth.
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:36:42 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 02:32:20 PMKinder, why don't you post some studies and papers? Not the article of some pseudo-libertarian, Republican youtuber?>didn't read the sourceQuote Sandra Stotsky, a professor at the University of Arkansas, who served on the committee to validate Common Core standards said, “The standards dumb American education down by about two grades worth.How can it dumb it down if it makes standards higher?
Except it doesn't make standards higher. It makes schools that are ahead subjected to a decrease standard in order t be on equal footing with other schools
Quote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:41:44 PMExcept it doesn't make standards higher. It makes schools that are ahead subjected to a decrease standard in order t be on equal footing with other schoolsWhat logic did you use to draw the conclusion that a minimum requirement will bring standards down.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on November 05, 2014, 02:43:46 PMQuote from: Kinder on November 05, 2014, 02:41:44 PMExcept it doesn't make standards higher. It makes schools that are ahead subjected to a decrease standard in order t be on equal footing with other schoolsWhat logic did you use to draw the conclusion that a minimum requirement will bring standards down.State A has two school districts. District 1 has already higher standards than District 2. The state passes Common Core with D-2 meeting the minimum but D-1 exceeding the minimum and because of such, the state lowers D-1 because it's easier to lower standards for a better off school than to raise them for a school that isn't as far off