Quote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.He's not talking about getting rid of guns he's talking about getting rid of the easy access to them.Impose a system like the UK.
Quote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.
Quote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpg
Quote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.
Trump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.
Quote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 02:33:56 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.He's not talking about getting rid of guns he's talking about getting rid of the easy access to them.Impose a system like the UK.Mmmhmmm good luck with that. That's not going to change a damn thing here.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:00:14 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 02:33:56 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.He's not talking about getting rid of guns he's talking about getting rid of the easy access to them.Impose a system like the UK.Mmmhmmm good luck with that. That's not going to change a damn thing here.I'm talking to a brick wall.
Quote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 04:06:38 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:00:14 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 02:33:56 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.He's not talking about getting rid of guns he's talking about getting rid of the easy access to them.Impose a system like the UK.Mmmhmmm good luck with that. That's not going to change a damn thing here.I'm talking to a brick wall.I feel the same way with people who think they know best and yet they don't even live in this country.Our problems are different from yours, and your solutions are far from compatible here. This is America, not Europe.Restricting how guns isn't going to stop people from acquiring guns easily.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMIf you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.It's been shown several times that restricting access to guns results in less shootings and homicides. They still happen, of course, but it's generally accepted that restricting access to guns drastically reduces gun violence.QuoteIf I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?Getting one is probably not as easy as you think. Illegal guns tend to cost quite a bit more and it has again been shown that this barrier is a pretty good disincentive for people looking to commit crimes or commit suicide.That being said, only a tiny fraction of all gun homicides are commited by your typical criminals or gangbangers. The vast majority of shootings are commited by your typical everyday law abiding gun owner that in all likelihood wouldn't have delved into illegality to get him a gun if he couldn't do so in a way that is both legal and a lot easier.QuoteIf you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Not once in all my years of debating and researching this have I made any argument even remotely close to taking away all guns from everyone who legally bought theirs. QuoteTry living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.That is a terrible argument no different from "try living in Iran for 22 years before you question their laws on stoning women for adultery" or "you should have no say on abortion / feminism / adoption / parenting because you're no woman yourself". I don't need to have lived somewhere before I can criticise its laws when they are so clearly faulty.
If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.
If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?
If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.
Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.
Quote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 09:46:38 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 09:30:42 AMQuote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 08:08:22 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 08:01:53 AMQuote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 08:01:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 07:36:34 AMOkay, so really, the whole "whites commit more mass shooting" is kind of a non sequitur then, unless you want to entertain a separate discussion?Well that's what I'm saying. She was going off topic and I was just explaining that to you.Sounds like you were having a go at me rather than her but okay.I was talking shit to you, because you were coming in with your white power right wing bullshit, and misunderstanding what she was saying."It's right wing to point out facts guys ;^)"You seem very racist or quick to point out white people aren't as bad :^)
Quote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 09:30:42 AMQuote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 08:08:22 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 08:01:53 AMQuote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 08:01:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 07:36:34 AMOkay, so really, the whole "whites commit more mass shooting" is kind of a non sequitur then, unless you want to entertain a separate discussion?Well that's what I'm saying. She was going off topic and I was just explaining that to you.Sounds like you were having a go at me rather than her but okay.I was talking shit to you, because you were coming in with your white power right wing bullshit, and misunderstanding what she was saying."It's right wing to point out facts guys ;^)"
Quote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 08:08:22 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 08:01:53 AMQuote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 08:01:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 07:36:34 AMOkay, so really, the whole "whites commit more mass shooting" is kind of a non sequitur then, unless you want to entertain a separate discussion?Well that's what I'm saying. She was going off topic and I was just explaining that to you.Sounds like you were having a go at me rather than her but okay.I was talking shit to you, because you were coming in with your white power right wing bullshit, and misunderstanding what she was saying.
Quote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 08:01:53 AMQuote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 08:01:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 07:36:34 AMOkay, so really, the whole "whites commit more mass shooting" is kind of a non sequitur then, unless you want to entertain a separate discussion?Well that's what I'm saying. She was going off topic and I was just explaining that to you.Sounds like you were having a go at me rather than her but okay.
Quote from: unironically being ironic on August 27, 2015, 08:01:06 AMQuote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 07:36:34 AMOkay, so really, the whole "whites commit more mass shooting" is kind of a non sequitur then, unless you want to entertain a separate discussion?Well that's what I'm saying. She was going off topic and I was just explaining that to you.
Quote from: challengerX on August 27, 2015, 07:36:34 AMOkay, so really, the whole "whites commit more mass shooting" is kind of a non sequitur then, unless you want to entertain a separate discussion?
Quote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:30:07 PMI really don't think my post warrants a reaction like that. I first brought up findings and evidence that disproves your first point, then gave you an insight in the merits of making certain weapons harder to obtain and how both studies and government statistics undermine your second argument, followed by correcting the false opinion you're accusing me of having and then finally challenging your fallacy that I should have no right to hold an opinion or criticism on something because I'm not a citizen of a certain country. Nothing I said was ridiculous or even much of my own opinion on the matter.
Quote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 04:31:34 PMFlee has a very valid point. I reserve the right to harshly criticize laws in foreign nations and other people should be able to as well.I'm also not arguing that simply copying a British / European / Australian system would work well for the US, for what that's worth.
Flee has a very valid point. I reserve the right to harshly criticize laws in foreign nations and other people should be able to as well.
Quote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 05:11:37 PMQuote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 04:31:34 PMFlee has a very valid point. I reserve the right to harshly criticize laws in foreign nations and other people should be able to as well.I'm also not arguing that simply copying a British / European / Australian system would work well for the US, for what that's worth.Oh I know that. You've been like, the most sane anti-firearm person I've ever talked to and I do agree with you about some points.
Quote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 06:13:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 05:11:37 PMQuote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 04:31:34 PMFlee has a very valid point. I reserve the right to harshly criticize laws in foreign nations and other people should be able to as well.I'm also not arguing that simply copying a British / European / Australian system would work well for the US, for what that's worth.Oh I know that. You've been like, the most sane anti-firearm person I've ever talked to and I do agree with you about some points.Oh hoho. So I'm an insane pro-gunnut then?I see how it is. Anything to get more dirt on Deci. amirite?
Quote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 06:25:03 PMQuote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 06:13:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 05:11:37 PMQuote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 04:31:34 PMFlee has a very valid point. I reserve the right to harshly criticize laws in foreign nations and other people should be able to as well.I'm also not arguing that simply copying a British / European / Australian system would work well for the US, for what that's worth.Oh I know that. You've been like, the most sane anti-firearm person I've ever talked to and I do agree with you about some points.Oh hoho. So I'm an insane pro-gunnut then?I see how it is. Anything to get more dirt on Deci. amirite?The fuck are you even talking about?
Quote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 06:26:21 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 06:25:03 PMQuote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 06:13:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 05:11:37 PMQuote from: GAIUS DASSIUS B00TSAR on August 27, 2015, 04:31:34 PMFlee has a very valid point. I reserve the right to harshly criticize laws in foreign nations and other people should be able to as well.I'm also not arguing that simply copying a British / European / Australian system would work well for the US, for what that's worth.Oh I know that. You've been like, the most sane anti-firearm person I've ever talked to and I do agree with you about some points.Oh hoho. So I'm an insane pro-gunnut then?I see how it is. Anything to get more dirt on Deci. amirite?The fuck are you even talking about?You know exactly what I'm talking about, boyo. You like every single post that Chally says about me each time.
black people gonna black
Quote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 04:06:38 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:00:14 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 02:33:56 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.He's not talking about getting rid of guns he's talking about getting rid of the easy access to them.Impose a system like the UK.Mmmhmmm good luck with that. That's not going to change a damn thing here.I'm talking to a brick wall.I feel the same way with people who think they know best and yet they don't even live in this country.
you could have prevented this look what you did
We need to go back in time and kill baby Thunder. But would it be ethical?
QuoteTry living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.That is a terrible argument no different from "try living in Iran for 22 years before you question their laws on stoning women for adultery" or "you should have no say on abortion / feminism / adoption / parenting because you're no woman yourself". I don't need to have lived somewhere before I can criticise its laws when they are so clearly faulty.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:13:27 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 04:06:38 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:00:14 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 02:33:56 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.He's not talking about getting rid of guns he's talking about getting rid of the easy access to them.Impose a system like the UK.Mmmhmmm good luck with that. That's not going to change a damn thing here.I'm talking to a brick wall.I feel the same way with people who think they know best and yet they don't even live in this country.Sometimes in life, it takes an outside observer to point out the flaws of someone or somethinga valuable lesson you should keep with you <3
Quote from: Luciana on August 27, 2015, 07:47:08 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:13:27 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 04:06:38 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:00:14 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 02:33:56 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.He's not talking about getting rid of guns he's talking about getting rid of the easy access to them.Impose a system like the UK.Mmmhmmm good luck with that. That's not going to change a damn thing here.I'm talking to a brick wall.I feel the same way with people who think they know best and yet they don't even live in this country.Sometimes in life, it takes an outside observer to point out the flaws of someone or somethinga valuable lesson you should keep with you <3I like to go to a place with no people whatsoever.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 07:58:26 PMQuote from: Luciana on August 27, 2015, 07:47:08 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:13:27 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 04:06:38 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 04:00:14 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 02:33:56 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on August 27, 2015, 02:29:42 PMQuote from: Flee on August 27, 2015, 02:24:29 PMQuote from: eggsalad on August 27, 2015, 01:48:17 PMQuote from: Septy on August 27, 2015, 11:50:14 AMTrump: Virginia shootings "mental health problem, not gun problem."http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/27/politics/donald-trump-virginia-shooting-mental-health-gun-laws/index.htmlSpoilerDonald Trump said Thursday he is opposed to tightening gun laws in the U.S. but is in favor of addressing mental health to prevent shootings, one day after a man shot two journalists on live television."This isn't a gun problem, this is a mental problem," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "It's not a question of the laws, it's really the people."Calling the gunman a "very sick man," Trump said mental illness is "a massive problem" in the U.S. He suggested more resources should be devoted to addressing mental health -- hoping to prevent shootings like the one in Virginia, which he called "really, very sad."So, Trump, if this guy had mental issues then why is it so easy for people with mental issues to get guns in this country? Obviously there's nothing wrong with guns.Even if it's just part of his platform and bid for votes, mental health is actually a huge problem that needs a solution right now and a candidate starting that discussion is good.But I'm not sure how well any new programs can defend from the likes of this guy, he was functioning and seemed clean until this snap.More and better attention for mental health care = great.Guns and easy access to them are not a problem whatsoever = opinion discarded .jpgTime to argue with you again.I'm just going to say this once and only once.If you take guns away, that's not going to stop shit like this still. They will still happen. It won't change a god damn thing. If anything, it will make shootings and murders even more common.If I really wanted to, I can go get a gun right now at a flea market, illegal? Yes, but why would I give a fuck about the law if I want to commit murder or a mass shooting?If you don't get the point now with your side of the argument on taking away guns from everyone who LEGALLY bought theirs, then I refuse to accept your side of defense entirely, and I always will, because you're wrong.Try living in the US for 22 years before you decide what our laws should be, friend.He's not talking about getting rid of guns he's talking about getting rid of the easy access to them.Impose a system like the UK.Mmmhmmm good luck with that. That's not going to change a damn thing here.I'm talking to a brick wall.I feel the same way with people who think they know best and yet they don't even live in this country.Sometimes in life, it takes an outside observer to point out the flaws of someone or somethinga valuable lesson you should keep with you <3I like to go to a place with no people whatsoever.Here's another life tip. When someone gives you advice you don't dismiss them, if it doesn't apply to you then don't say anything.
Shitty journalism at it's finest
Virginia News Team Killed While On the Air
