Humble yourself

I could say the same to you.

I find your reliance on the fact that everybody has, and is allowed, an opinion to be incredibly, incredibly arrogant. The fact that you or I has an opinion doesn't make that opinion in any way correct, or even respectable. All that matters is how closely our opinions track reality. Mine, to the extent of our knowledge, is much more reliable than yours - I can't even stress the difference there enough.

Your assertion to the entitlement of opinion is nothing more than a red herring, and you should be mindful of such arrogance in the future. You're allowed to express yourself, but everybody else is allowed to call you out for making expressions which are quite patently wrong and frankly laughable.

Quote from: RocketRudolph287 on December 08, 2014, 02:24:54 PM

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Quote from: RocketRudolph287 on December 08, 2014, 02:20:15 PM

Humble yourself

I could say the same to you.

I find your reliance on the fact that everybody has, and is allowed, an opinion to be incredibly, incredibly arrogant. The fact that you or I has an opinion doesn't make that opinion in any way correct, or even respectable. All that matters is how closely our opinions track reality. Mine, to the extent of our knowledge, is much more reliable than yours - I can't even stress the difference there enough.

Your assertion to the entitlement of opinion is nothing more than a red herring, and you should be mindful of such arrogance in the future. You're allowed to express yourself, but everybody else is allowed to call you out for making expressions which are quite patently wrong and frankly laughable.

I simply stated my views. You however ask me 1,000 questions any time I post in here.
It is rather annoying.

That's kind of the point of coming to a debate forum...debating the issues and preparing to defend your opinions, especially if they are unpopular.

I will defend it. but being questioned 24/7 is no longer a debate, it is annoying.

Quote from: RocketRudolph287 on December 08, 2014, 02:24:54 PM

I simply stated my views. You however ask me 1,000 questions any time I post in here.
It is rather annoying.

That's usually because I need to question it in order to understand where you're coming from, since it's so far removed from anything I'm even familiar with. But I don't really understand why you come to a website around discussion - especially the serious section - and then get annoyed when people try to facilitate such discussion.

I simply stated my views, you however never seem willing to actually engage in critical thought and analysis on any issues regarding your faith. It's rather annoying.

Like I said, I respect your right to express your views here. But I have an equal right to question, criticise and reject them, whether you like it or not.

I don't post in here because it is time consuming. It becomes pages of, not other people being questioned, but simply me. That is why.

Quote from: RocketRudolph287 on December 08, 2014, 02:29:27 PM

not other people being questioned, but simply me. That is why.

That's probably because people feel the need to question you since you pretty much refuse to engage in any meaningful and developmental discussion from the word go.

I think it's an issue with you - not everybody else. I have no problem with being questioned for however long. If I don't understand the question, then I ask them to articulate it better. I only get frustrated when people are being exceptionally obtuse.

I find it a waste of time. I enjoy:

 A + B = C

I agree or disagree because of this, explains the reasoning behind it, and its done.
The point of this thread was The Pastor's attitude towards homosexuality. Not whether homosexuality is a choice. you see what I mean?

We are on a whole other subject here. Every thread is this way, that is my point.
It's no longer about the topic, it always becomes 100% about my beliefs.

Quote from: RocketRudolph287 on December 08, 2014, 02:37:00 PM

it always becomes 100% about my beliefs.

Actually it evolved from a discussion about the pastor's expressions to the biblical nature of homosexuality and sin, and Max asking how you could split the difference between the person and the acts since nobody chooses to be gay. To which you articulated the point that you don't think it's a choice.

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a horrible misinformed and potentially bigoted mindset.

1) once again, opinions are nice aren't they?

2) yeah, this is obviously about my beliefs and not the topic

Quote from: RocketRudolph287 on December 08, 2014, 01:39:01 PM

I think I've made it abundantly clear what Christianity is truly about: loving people and loving God.

Your scripture would indicate otherwise.

But I'm done Icy. Let the discussion continue.

If being gay goes against Christianity then please quote something from the New Testament that proves this. We all know that Old Testament arguments are out the window, seeing as people eat lobster, get haircuts, and wear mixed cloths and it's not seen as "sin"

You can't pick and choose convenient scripture in Old Testament to follow while ignoring the rest.

And picking and choosing convient scripture from the New Testament is any better?