US Air Force requires you to swear to God

Korra · September 05, 2014, 07:28:10 PM

Does it matter? Can't people just brush it aside if they wish? Making such a big fuss over one sentence.

Nick McIntyre · September 05, 2014, 08:48:26 PM

I thought the government wasn't supposed to be supportive of a singular religion, if not at all?

Cheat · September 05, 2014, 09:28:44 PM

Quote from: Korra on September 05, 2014, 07:28:10 PM

Does it matter? Can't people just brush it aside if they wish? Making such a big fuss over one sentence.

It could go the other way as well. What's the big deal about crossing out a few words? They're just words.

Korra · September 05, 2014, 09:35:02 PM

Quote from: Cheat on September 05, 2014, 09:28:44 PM

Quote from: Korra on September 05, 2014, 07:28:10 PM
Does it matter? Can't people just brush it aside if they wish? Making such a big fuss over one sentence.
It could go the other way as well. What's the big deal about crossing out a few words? They're just words.

Now that you say it, this is the freakin military...leave religion aside from the institution that specialized in explosions and drones.

Unless...we pray to Ares. That would make sense.

DAS B00T x2 · September 05, 2014, 10:05:06 PM

Quote from: Korra on September 05, 2014, 09:35:02 PM

Quote from: Cheat on September 05, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: Korra on September 05, 2014, 07:28:10 PM
Does it matter? Can't people just brush it aside if they wish? Making such a big fuss over one sentence.
It could go the other way as well. What's the big deal about crossing out a few words? They're just words.
Now that you say it, this is the freakin military...leave religion aside from the institution that specialized in explosions and drones.

Unless...we pray to Ares. That would make sense.

Pfft,Greeks.
The sign of the hammer is our guide.

Korra · September 05, 2014, 10:20:17 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 05, 2014, 10:05:06 PM

Quote from: Korra on September 05, 2014, 09:35:02 PM
Quote from: Cheat on September 05, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
Quote from: Korra on September 05, 2014, 07:28:10 PM
Does it matter? Can't people just brush it aside if they wish? Making such a big fuss over one sentence.
It could go the other way as well. What's the big deal about crossing out a few words? They're just words.
Now that you say it, this is the freakin military...leave religion aside from the institution that specialized in explosions and drones.

Unless...we pray to Ares. That would make sense.
Pfft,Greeks.
The sign of the hammer is our guide.

Sir Apple · September 09, 2014, 05:41:32 AM

Fuck the US government.

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · September 09, 2014, 07:41:52 AM

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Alternative Facts · September 09, 2014, 08:28:13 AM

Quote from: Focnr on September 05, 2014, 04:39:37 PM

Don't like it don't join. Plain and simple.

So, we're going to turn away men and women who are willing to serve their country loyally and faithfully...because they don't believe in a God and would rather not express that belief?

That's fucking stupid.

Juuzou · September 09, 2014, 11:13:28 AM

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Focnr · September 09, 2014, 01:46:27 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 09, 2014, 08:28:13 AM

Quote from: Focnr on September 05, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
Don't like it don't join. Plain and simple.

So, we're going to turn away men and women who are willing to serve their country loyally and faithfully...because they don't believe in a God and would rather not express that belief?

That's fucking stupid.

Pretty much. People like that shouldn't be in the military anyway. Small minded drama queens. There are bigger problems than this.

Alternative Facts · September 09, 2014, 01:51:29 PM

Quote from: Focnr on September 09, 2014, 01:46:27 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 09, 2014, 08:28:13 AM
Quote from: Focnr on September 05, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
Don't like it don't join. Plain and simple.

So, we're going to turn away men and women who are willing to serve their country loyally and faithfully...because they don't believe in a God and would rather not express that belief?

That's fucking stupid.

Pretty much. People like that shouldn't be in the military anyway. Small minded drama queens. There are bigger problems than this.

That's an even more stupid idea to have. I'm sure you though DADT wasn't a huge issue either?

Mad Max · September 09, 2014, 02:22:18 PM

Quote from: Focnr on September 09, 2014, 01:46:27 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 09, 2014, 08:28:13 AM
Quote from: Focnr on September 05, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
Don't like it don't join. Plain and simple.

So, we're going to turn away men and women who are willing to serve their country loyally and faithfully...because they don't believe in a God and would rather not express that belief?

That's fucking stupid.

Pretty much. People like that shouldn't be in the military anyway. Small minded drama queens. There are bigger problems than this.

I thought the military valued the constitution...

Flee · September 09, 2014, 03:03:47 PM

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Cheat · September 09, 2014, 03:06:36 PM

Quote from: Focnr on September 09, 2014, 01:46:27 PM

Quote from: IcyWind on September 09, 2014, 08:28:13 AM
Quote from: Focnr on September 05, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
Don't like it don't join. Plain and simple.

So, we're going to turn away men and women who are willing to serve their country loyally and faithfully...because they don't believe in a God and would rather not express that belief?

That's fucking stupid.

Pretty much. People like that shouldn't be in the military anyway. Small minded drama queens. There are bigger problems than this.

I couldn't disagree more. This religious stuff shouldn't be an issue; it shouldn't be brought up, and if it is, then it certainly shouldn't be held against someone when they don't want to participate.

Like someone said (in this thread or another one, I can't remember) Sikh in the military are allowed to wear a turban, so why not allow someone non-religious the option to not be religious?

Mordo · September 09, 2014, 08:30:40 PM

Sounds like a job for Captain Logic.