Two party system

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Who actually thinks this is a fair system? It's a joke

we should just get rid of parties all together...
Last Edit: January 16, 2015, 07:26:17 PM by AllAmericanTragedy


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What makes it such a joke is all of the corruption and money that goes into campaigning on both sides, than once there bought they support laws/bills whatever that benefit whoever gave them the most money aka lobbyists.


If we took the money out of it, it would work far better.
Last Edit: January 16, 2015, 01:47:13 PM by Raptorx7


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
There's really nothing inherently wrong with a two-party system.

America, however, is a special case. It's political system is really quite unique and, if I say so myself, incredibly interesting. It's essentially a melting pot of diverse variables that causes high levels of partisanship.


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What makes it such a joke is all of the corruption and money that goes into campaigning on both sides, than once there bought they support laws/bills whatever that benefit whoever gave them the most money aka lobbyists.

and the lack of an actual left... not to mention the fact that it allows single issue voters to be a thing...


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There's really nothing inherently wrong with a two-party system.

America, however, is a special case. It's political system is really quite unique and, if I say so myself, incredibly interesting. It's essentially a melting pot of diverse variables that causes high levels of partisanship.

two party system is wrong... political parties in general are wrong...


 
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two party system is wrong
Well, I'll say it again: two party systems aren't inherently wrong. It's just America's unique position.


 
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I wouldn't say two-party systems are inherently bad, at least in America. In more recent years, big name donors have vastly increased donations into the two parties, forcing candidates to become more hardline left/right, instead of being more moderate as seen in previous decades. This had caused a rise in polarization and lack of bipartisanship on key issues


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two party system is wrong
Well, I'll say it again: two party systems aren't inherently wrong. It's just America's unique position.

it's wrong because it lowers the political diversity of a country and forces people to pick a side that slightly resembles their own...


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
and the lack of an actual left...
>obama named most liberal senator by national journal
>implemented a stimulus bigger than the new deal
>raised tariffs on south korean steel by 13pc, and other steel by 118pc
>has been using federal funding to implement a national agenda
>expanded medicare/medicaid at the expense of certain states
>not to mention bush increased federal spending by 35pc

Yeah, there's no left-wing in American politics.


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and the lack of an actual left...
>obama named most liberal senator by national journal
>implemented a stimulus bigger than the new deal
>raised tariffs on south korean steel by 13pc, and other steel by 118pc
>has been using federal funding to implement a national agenda
>expanded medicare/medicaid at the expense of certain states
>not to mention bush increased federal spending by 35pc

Yeah, there's no left-wing in American politics.

there isn't... just center right, right, and far right...


 
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and the lack of an actual left...
>obama named most liberal senator by national journal
>implemented a stimulus bigger than the new deal
>raised tariffs on south korean steel by 13pc, and other steel by 118pc
>has been using federal funding to implement a national agenda
>expanded medicare/medicaid at the expense of certain states
>not to mention bush increased federal spending by 35pc

Yeah, there's no left-wing in American politics.

The American left is far less than Euro left. But, it's slowly working there.


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I always find it amusing that our left (American left) is basically most European country's moderate right.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
there isn't... just center right, right, and far right...
I'm not sure how any of the things I've mentioned stray into the right-of-centre scene.


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there isn't... just center right, right, and far right...
I'm not sure how any of the things I've mentioned stray into the right-of-centre scene.

well... obviously not for the american left...


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
I always find it amusing that our left (American left) is basically most European country's moderate right.
That's not really true, to be honest.

It only seems like that at a cursory glance, which is necessarily influenced by history and culture. I'll agree that the American public is certainly more right-wing than the European public, and thus our right-wing politics are more moderated, but looking at certain policies in the Democratic Party does belie a degree of genuine Leftism.


 
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well... obviously not for the american left...
Not on the American Right, either, not since Bush sacrificed principle for political expediency.

Point is--you're overstating just how right-wing the American political scene is. Both parties have moderated and hardlined throughout their history (recently, too) and the polarisation of the parties is due to political history and demographics more than any other factor. But to say that there exists no left-wing is just false.


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"I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow!"
I always find it amusing that our left (American left) is basically most European country's moderate right.
That's not really true, to be honest.

It only seems like that at a cursory glance, which is necessarily influenced by history and culture. I'll agree that the American public is certainly more right-wing than the European public, and thus our right-wing politics are more moderated, but looking at certain policies in the Democratic Party does belie a degree of genuine Leftism.

Right, (No pun intended) I probably could have worded that a little better honestly.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Right, (No pun intended) I probably could have worded that a little better honestly.
Don't get me wrong, I know what you're driving at. It's just our political 'structure' is set up in such a way as to seem left-wing. Like, for instance, the existence of the National Health Service.

I think if you essentially abolished both countries and had them start from scratch, the difference between the American Right and our Right wouldn't be as substantial.


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